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  • @canton-dawg said:

    They will never admit it.

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

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  • @hoorta said:

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

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  • @hoorta said:

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

    TDS!

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    TDS!

    BDS!!!

  • @hoorta said:

    OK, my last2 cents on this Steve. Besides there being an inordinate amount of baseless right wing conspiracy theory on this forum. There's also a ton of paranoia. And at least in regard to guns- you and a bunch of others here are paranoid as hell. (or being damn unrealistic) So much as put forward increased background checks- the screaming starts....

    THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS!!!!! 

    Never going to happen- at least in our lifetimes- and I'll tell you why. 

    1) Too many folks in Congress like Bag o' Guns Lauren Boebert have your back.

    2) The 10+ million legit hunters will never hear of it.  

    OTOH, the push to stop the sale of assault er- paramilitary- weapons is nothing new- it's been kicked around for years. I don't doubt it's going to happen soon.  You want one? You're going to need a license. BTW, nothing like shooting up a concert in Las Vegas with a bump stock to get them banned. Those others are next. My sympathies to all you wannabe Rambos out there. As one Democratic Congresswoman accurately said- you don't need an AR-15 to kill Bambi. Plus- those weapons that are already out there- 10s of millions of them- aren't going away. If you think they are- sorry, that's plain nuts. Though I have said it wouldn't surprise me if .223 and 556 NATO ammo get regulated. 

    Yes, you have a point Steve. 2nd Amendment "well regulated militia" with single shot muskets that took a bit to reload. I doubt the Founding Fathers envisioned or had in mind that modified AR-15 with a 100 shot drum magazine you can empty as fast as you can pull the trigger- like our Dayton shooter used.  

      The thin end of the wedge.  Sure paramilitary assault really scary sounding right? Tell me what makes them actually scary besides the name?  Here are some assault weapons you can get Dicks.  But I am sure your buddies in the anti gun lobby could ask a question like what does anyone need a 9 mmeter semiautomatic handgun for? Actually there are grocery stores all over the country why does anybody need to shoot a deer?

    https://www.guns.com/news/2019/10/02/8-semi-auto-deer-rifles-many-have-never-heard-of

      PS dud you say in our lifetime? According to the law of averages thats about 9 years. Just saying.

     By the way the founding fathers wanted the citizens to have fire power equal to whatever the government could bring to take over. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

      The thin end of the wedge.  Sure paramilitary assault really scary sounding right? Tell me what makes them actually scary besides the name?  Here are some assault weapons you can get Dicks.  But I am sure your buddies in the anti gun lobby could ask a question like what does anyone need a 9 mmeter semiautomatic handgun for? Actually there are grocery stores all over the country why does anybody need to shoot a deer?

    https://www.guns.com/news/2019/10/02/8-semi-auto-deer-rifles-many-have-never-heard-of

      PS dud you say in our lifetime? According to the law of averages thats about 9 years. Just saying.

     By the way the founding fathers wanted the citizens to have fire power equal to whatever the government could bring to take over. 

    WSS

    Single shot cannons should be legal. 😁 

    Regarding the bold- sure you can kill someone with a .22 pistol. But please don't act dumb Steve. I grew up in a hunting family- and any weapon used for that purpose has a MAX of 6 shells or cartridges.  If you're hunting ducks or geese, it's THREE shells.  NOT a Goddamn 100 round drum magazine. So what are those paramilitary weapons primarily for?  HUH? Hunting? My ass. Said it before- they are designed to kill as many HUMAN BEINGS as quickly and efficiently as possible. That's the difference. There you have it. You have a grocery store in a bad neighborhood, and need a Glock for self protection? Be my guest.

    You're still projecting WITH NO BASIS IN FACT that the big bad Democrats want to totally outlaw guns.  As the Buffaloes said- paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. 

  • @hoorta said:

    BDS!!!

    TDS!

  • @westside-steve said:

      The thin end of the wedge.  Sure paramilitary assault really scary sounding right? Tell me what makes them actually scary besides the name?  Here are some assault weapons you can get Dicks.  But I am sure your buddies in the anti gun lobby could ask a question like what does anyone need a 9 mmeter semiautomatic handgun for? Actually there are grocery stores all over the country why does anybody need to shoot a deer?

    https://www.guns.com/news/2019/10/02/8-semi-auto-deer-rifles-many-have-never-heard-of

      PS dud you say in our lifetime? According to the law of averages thats about 9 years. Just saying.

     By the way the founding fathers wanted the citizens to have fire power equal to whatever the government could bring to take over. 

    WSS

    Single shot cannons should be legal. 😁 

    Regarding the bold- sure you can kill someone with a .22 pistol. But please don't act dumb Steve. I grew up in a hunting family- and any weapon used for that purpose has a MAX of 6 shells or cartridges.  If you're hunting ducks or geese, it's THREE shells.  NOT a Goddamn 100 round drum magazine. So what are those paramilitary weapons primarily for?  HUH? Hunting? My ass. Said it before- they are designed to kill as many HUMAN BEINGS as quickly and efficiently as possible. That's the difference. There you have it. You have a grocery store in a bad neighborhood, and need a Glock for self protection? Be my guest.

    You're still projecting WITH NO BASIS IN FACT that the big bad Democrats want to totally outlaw guns.  As the Buffaloes said- paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. 

    @hoorta said:

    Single shot cannons should be legal. 😁 

    Regarding the bold- sure you can kill someone with a .22 pistol. But please don't act dumb Steve. I grew up in a hunting family- and any weapon used for that purpose has a MAX of 6 shells or cartridges.  If you're hunting ducks or geese, it's THREE shells.  NOT a Goddamn 100 round drum magazine. So what are those paramilitary weapons primarily for?  HUH? Hunting? My ass. Said it before- they are designed to kill as many HUMAN BEINGS as quickly and efficiently as possible. That's the difference. There you have it. You have a grocery store in a bad neighborhood, and need a Glock for self protection? Be my guest.

    You're still projecting WITH NO BASIS IN FACT that the big bad Democrats want to totally outlaw guns.  As the Buffaloes said- paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. 

     

    When asked by ABC moderator David Muir to confirm that he planned to mandate that Americans sell their guns, the former Texas congressman responded, “hell yes.”

    https://time.com/5676620/beto-orourke-take-guns-ar15-ak47/

    Biden Says Beto O’Rourke Will ‘Take Care of the Gun Problem with Me’

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-beto-o-rourke-141650776.html

  • @westside-steve said:

      The thin end of the wedge.  Sure paramilitary assault really scary sounding right? Tell me what makes them actually scary besides the name?  Here are some assault weapons you can get Dicks.  But I am sure your buddies in the anti gun lobby could ask a question like what does anyone need a 9 mmeter semiautomatic handgun for? Actually there are grocery stores all over the country why does anybody need to shoot a deer?

    https://www.guns.com/news/2019/10/02/8-semi-auto-deer-rifles-many-have-never-heard-of

      PS dud you say in our lifetime? According to the law of averages thats about 9 years. Just saying.

     By the way the founding fathers wanted the citizens to have fire power equal to whatever the government could bring to take over. 

    WSS

    Single shot cannons should be legal. 😁 

    Regarding the bold- sure you can kill someone with a .22 pistol. But please don't act dumb Steve. I grew up in a hunting family- and any weapon used for that purpose has a MAX of 6 shells or cartridges.  If you're hunting ducks or geese, it's THREE shells.  NOT a Goddamn 100 round drum magazine. So what are those paramilitary weapons primarily for?  HUH? Hunting? My ass. Said it before- they are designed to kill as many HUMAN BEINGS as quickly and efficiently as possible. That's the difference. There you have it. You have a grocery store in a bad neighborhood, and need a Glock for self protection? Be my guest.

    You're still projecting WITH NO BASIS IN FACT that the big bad Democrats want to totally outlaw guns.  As the Buffaloes said- paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. 

    @hoorta said:

    Single shot cannons should be legal. 😁 

    Regarding the bold- sure you can kill someone with a .22 pistol. But please don't act dumb Steve. I grew up in a hunting family- and any weapon used for that purpose has a MAX of 6 shells or cartridges.  If you're hunting ducks or geese, it's THREE shells.  NOT a Goddamn 100 round drum magazine. So what are those paramilitary weapons primarily for?  HUH? Hunting? My ass. Said it before- they are designed to kill as many HUMAN BEINGS as quickly and efficiently as possible. That's the difference. There you have it. You have a grocery store in a bad neighborhood, and need a Glock for self protection? Be my guest.

    You're still projecting WITH NO BASIS IN FACT that the big bad Democrats want to totally outlaw guns.  As the Buffaloes said- paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. 

     Up to you. You just wasting my time bickering. If you think there's not a large group of people on the left who would all be members of the Democrat party or support them who would like to see guns completely out of the hands of the American public fine.   I think you're crazy if you do. If you don't think this is just one step toward confiscation again I think you're crazy. But you seem hardwired now to defend everything the democrats stand for so that's that. (Or just oppose everything conservatives republicans christians whoever stand for) suppose 60 years ago there were people in England that liked to go hunting.  Not being a firearm enthusiast's I don't really care that much. And just predicting what is going to happen. Fact have nothing to do with predictions I can only go by what I see.

     Try to compare it to the abortion issue which I guess now that you are a Biden cult member you are OK with.  Every once in a while there is legislation written to make it harder and harder to get 1. Requiring psychological counselling raising the age limit making the mother see ultra sod pictures of the foetus etc etc. Are you naive enough to believe that those restrictions are the end game for the people who want to end abortion?  I will save us some trouble and answer for you so you don't have to spin.  Of course not  Those are just baby steps on the way to their final desire. Like background checks psychological counselling waiting periods banning a gun because it looks scary do zero to stop the hunderds of thousands of murders in the inner cities by democrats. Just baby steps.

     As long as were talking about what we need or don't need you don't need to hunt. Nobody does. Even though I have a lot of friends who enjoy it I personally think it's kind of a fucked up way to spend your time. I also think there's a disgusting element of cruelty in it.  On the other hand there are a lot of things I don't like that I would not make illegal if it were  in my power.  And one more time the 2nd amendment isn't about deer hunting.

    WSS 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    They will never admit it.

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

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  • https://www.theblaze.com/news/lindsey-graham-ar-15-gangs-gun-control

    Lindsey Graham defends AR-15 ownership: 'My house will be the last one that the gang will come to'

    News

     

    He's got a point

  • https://www.theblaze.com/news/lindsey-graham-ar-15-gangs-gun-control

    Lindsey Graham defends AR-15 ownership: 'My house will be the last one that the gang will come to'

    News

     

    He's got a point

    @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/lindsey-graham-ar-15-gangs-gun-control

    Lindsey Graham defends AR-15 ownership: 'My house will be the last one that the gang will come to'

    News

     

    He's got a point

    The sound of a 12 gauge shotgun pumping a round into the chamber would be a far more effective deterrent. It's why they made double barreled coach guns for stagecoaches back in the 1800s. Gets your attention real fast. Leave the military rifles to the military/national guard.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/lindsey-graham-ar-15-gangs-gun-control

    Lindsey Graham defends AR-15 ownership: 'My house will be the last one that the gang will come to'

    News

     

    He's got a point

    The sound of a 12 gauge shotgun pumping a round into the chamber would be a far more effective deterrent. It's why they made double barreled coach guns for stagecoaches back in the 1800s. Gets your attention real fast. Leave the military rifles to the military/national guard.

    @texasag1969 said:

    The sound of a 12 gauge shotgun pumping a round into the chamber would be a far more effective deterrent. It's why they made double barreled coach guns for stagecoaches back in the 1800s. Gets your attention real fast. Leave the military rifles to the military/national guard.

     

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/lindsey-graham-ar-15-gangs-gun-control

    Lindsey Graham defends AR-15 ownership: 'My house will be the last one that the gang will come to'

    News

     

    He's got a point

    The sound of a 12 gauge shotgun pumping a round into the chamber would be a far more effective deterrent. It's why they made double barreled coach guns for stagecoaches back in the 1800s. Gets your attention real fast. Leave the military rifles to the military/national guard.

    @texasag1969 said:

    The sound of a 12 gauge shotgun pumping a round into the chamber would be a far more effective deterrent. It's why they made double barreled coach guns for stagecoaches back in the 1800s. Gets your attention real fast. Leave the military rifles to the military/national guard.

    Just shut up.  Your plan is sound effects?

    Your advice is going to get people killed.

  •  

    "Second Amendment rights pre-date government

    The Second Amendment affirms the rights of Americans to protect their families and property. This right pre-dates Government and is inviolable. Trump will fight to protect this and our other most basic freedoms.

    The Second Amendment unambiguously states that citizens have a fundamental right to "keep and bear arms" and that this right "shall not be infringed."

    As an integral part of our Constitution and American heritage, law-abiding citizens have the right to keep and bear arms without interference from Government.

    As horrific as some of our recent national tragedies have been, they are not the fault of responsible gun owners. None of the new policies being pushed by President Biden would have prevented them from happening. Stricter gun legislation will not deter criminals determined to break the law.

    Furthermore, President Biden does not have the authority to sign Executive orders and thus circumvent the Constitutional process necessary "

  • @texasag1969 said:

    The sound of a 12 gauge shotgun pumping a round into the chamber would be a far more effective deterrent. It's why they made double barreled coach guns for stagecoaches back in the 1800s. Gets your attention real fast. Leave the military rifles to the military/national guard.

    Just shut up.  Your plan is sound effects?

    Your advice is going to get people killed.

    @hammertime said:

    Just shut up.  Your plan is sound effects?

    Your advice is going to get people killed.

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

  • @hammertime said:

    Just shut up.  Your plan is sound effects?

    Your advice is going to get people killed.

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

    @texasag1969 said:

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

    The AR 15 is lighter and more accurate that is why it's popular especially with women where shot guns are to heavy and to much kick.  Also accessories such as flashlight and laser are easily added to the AR that cannot be added to a shotgun as easy.

  • @hammertime said:

    Just shut up.  Your plan is sound effects?

    Your advice is going to get people killed.

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

    @texasag1969 said:

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

    I agree, here's mine:

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

    I agree, here's mine:

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I agree, here's mine:

    Those are bad ass!

    Imagine the fun defending your home during an Antifa riot...?

  • Tex....here's your weapon of choice to defend yourself: (see? emotions run liberals, not reality)

  • @hoorta said:

    Single shot cannons should be legal. 😁 

    Regarding the bold- sure you can kill someone with a .22 pistol. But please don't act dumb Steve. I grew up in a hunting family- and any weapon used for that purpose has a MAX of 6 shells or cartridges.  If you're hunting ducks or geese, it's THREE shells.  NOT a Goddamn 100 round drum magazine. So what are those paramilitary weapons primarily for?  HUH? Hunting? My ass. Said it before- they are designed to kill as many HUMAN BEINGS as quickly and efficiently as possible. That's the difference. There you have it. You have a grocery store in a bad neighborhood, and need a Glock for self protection? Be my guest.

    You're still projecting WITH NO BASIS IN FACT that the big bad Democrats want to totally outlaw guns.  As the Buffaloes said- paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. 

     

    When asked by ABC moderator David Muir to confirm that he planned to mandate that Americans sell their guns, the former Texas congressman responded, “hell yes.”

    https://time.com/5676620/beto-orourke-take-guns-ar15-ak47/

    Biden Says Beto O’Rourke Will ‘Take Care of the Gun Problem with Me’

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-beto-o-rourke-141650776.html

    @vambo said:

    When asked by ABC moderator David Muir to confirm that he planned to mandate that Americans sell their guns, the former Texas congressman responded, “hell yes.”

    https://time.com/5676620/beto-orourke-take-guns-ar15-ak47/

    Biden Says Beto O’Rourke Will ‘Take Care of the Gun Problem with Me’

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-beto-o-rourke-141650776.html

    You mean some Democrats are in favor of gun confiscation.  

    BTW- I seriously doubt that full auto shotgun is legal.  And if it is- it would have to be registered.