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  • @vambo said:

    When asked by ABC moderator David Muir to confirm that he planned to mandate that Americans sell their guns, the former Texas congressman responded, “hell yes.”

    https://time.com/5676620/beto-orourke-take-guns-ar15-ak47/

    Biden Says Beto O’Rourke Will ‘Take Care of the Gun Problem with Me’

    https://news.yahoo.com/biden-says-beto-o-rourke-141650776.html

    You mean some Democrats are in favor of gun confiscation.  

    BTW- I seriously doubt that full auto shotgun is legal.  And if it is- it would have to be registered.  

    @hoorta said:

    You mean some Democrats are in favor of gun confiscation.  

    BTW- I seriously doubt that full auto shotgun is legal.  And if it is- it would have to be registered.  

    So you don't really know you just base it off TDS! 

    How to Purchase a Machine Gun as an Individual:

    1. Confirm that full automatics are lawful to possess in your state
    2. Find a currently registered machine gun made before 1986 either at a gun shop or a private individual. You can search locally or online (but out-of-state online sales of all firearms must go to your local gunshop).
    3. Purchase the machine gun as an individual or through a trust – but, no, you can’t take it home yet! Trusts were popular to avoid certain requirements (fingerprints, law enforcement approval, etc.) but ATF changed the rules last year. Previously, your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) approval was required but the ATF changed the rules last year to only require notification. Also, members of a trust could obtain new NFA firearms without fingerprints/photos but now every lawful possessor is required to submit them each time. These rule changes removed much of the reason to get a trust.
    4. Fill out an ATF Form 4 application to transfer an NFA firearm. This application will include a $200 check for your tax, your fingerprints, a passport-style photograph, and information about you and the firearm.
    5. Wait 9-12 months for the ATF to approve and return your paperwork. Mine took 6 months.
    6. Take your machine-gun home and enjoy!
  • Tex....here's your weapon of choice to defend yourself: (see? emotions run liberals, not reality)

    @calfoxwc said:

    Tex....here's your weapon of choice to defend yourself: (see? emotions run liberals, not reality)

    You hear that sound in my home ya better run out the back door if ya weren't invited in and your emotions better tell ya, "I need to get the fuck outa Dodge!" ?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I agree, here's mine:

    That there is not legal for dove or duck hunting.?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If you have a loaded shotgun in your hand the sound effects carry the tone that you are going to use it. If you're not then don't have one. I guarantee if you put me and a shotgun against some yahoo with a pistol, he'll lose. My advice gets no one killed unless you don't intend to fire. I damn sure would and you had better too regardless of the weapon you choose to put in your hand(s).

    The AR 15 is lighter and more accurate that is why it's popular especially with women where shot guns are to heavy and to much kick.  Also accessories such as flashlight and laser are easily added to the AR that cannot be added to a shotgun as easy.

    @vambo said:

    The AR 15 is lighter and more accurate that is why it's popular especially with women where shot guns are to heavy and to much kick.  Also accessories such as flashlight and laser are easily added to the AR that cannot be added to a shotgun as easy.

    https://www.rem870.com/2017/07/07/best-shotgun-laser-sights/

  • @hoorta said:

    You mean some Democrats are in favor of gun confiscation.  

    BTW- I seriously doubt that full auto shotgun is legal.  And if it is- it would have to be registered.  

    So you don't really know you just base it off TDS! 

    How to Purchase a Machine Gun as an Individual:

    1. Confirm that full automatics are lawful to possess in your state
    2. Find a currently registered machine gun made before 1986 either at a gun shop or a private individual. You can search locally or online (but out-of-state online sales of all firearms must go to your local gunshop).
    3. Purchase the machine gun as an individual or through a trust – but, no, you can’t take it home yet! Trusts were popular to avoid certain requirements (fingerprints, law enforcement approval, etc.) but ATF changed the rules last year. Previously, your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) approval was required but the ATF changed the rules last year to only require notification. Also, members of a trust could obtain new NFA firearms without fingerprints/photos but now every lawful possessor is required to submit them each time. These rule changes removed much of the reason to get a trust.
    4. Fill out an ATF Form 4 application to transfer an NFA firearm. This application will include a $200 check for your tax, your fingerprints, a passport-style photograph, and information about you and the firearm.
    5. Wait 9-12 months for the ATF to approve and return your paperwork. Mine took 6 months.
    6. Take your machine-gun home and enjoy!

    @vambo said:

    So you don't really know you just base it off TDS! 

    How to Purchase a Machine Gun as an Individual:

    1. Confirm that full automatics are lawful to possess in your state
    2. Find a currently registered machine gun made before 1986 either at a gun shop or a private individual. You can search locally or online (but out-of-state online sales of all firearms must go to your local gunshop).
    3. Purchase the machine gun as an individual or through a trust – but, no, you can’t take it home yet! Trusts were popular to avoid certain requirements (fingerprints, law enforcement approval, etc.) but ATF changed the rules last year. Previously, your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) approval was required but the ATF changed the rules last year to only require notification. Also, members of a trust could obtain new NFA firearms without fingerprints/photos but now every lawful possessor is required to submit them each time. These rule changes removed much of the reason to get a trust.
    4. Fill out an ATF Form 4 application to transfer an NFA firearm. This application will include a $200 check for your tax, your fingerprints, a passport-style photograph, and information about you and the firearm.
    5. Wait 9-12 months for the ATF to approve and return your paperwork. Mine took 6 months.
    6. Take your machine-gun home and enjoy!

    Gee, you beat me too it. I already knew that. Al Capone era Tommy Guns are legal to own, assuming you have a permit for them. There's around 600,00 similar weapons out there according to the BATF.  That full auto AR-15 wouldn't fall into that category, and the guy had better have his permit for it.  

    Seeing some of those demos- I seriously doubt rocket and grenade launchers would be considered "automatic weapons".  More like "dangerous ordinance".  Ah, l I looked- they're considered "destructive devices". Yeah- it is possible- in a few states- to legally own them, but the cost and time of jumping through the requisite Government Red Tape makes it prohibitive.  I wonder where those guys got that stuff in the first place. Inventory reduction at a National Guard Armory maybe?  

  • But we aren't even talking about grenade launchers that's just facetious on your part. We are talking about a  semiautomatic hunting rifle with a multiple round clip  Which is called an assault weapon if the stock is aluminium instead of wood.

     But let's not be coy we know which type of firearm kills the most people in the course of a year,  the handgun. Why wouldn't you liberals focus on those?

     Allow me to answer. Because its political theatre..

    WSS

  • @vambo said:

    So you don't really know you just base it off TDS! 

    How to Purchase a Machine Gun as an Individual:

    1. Confirm that full automatics are lawful to possess in your state
    2. Find a currently registered machine gun made before 1986 either at a gun shop or a private individual. You can search locally or online (but out-of-state online sales of all firearms must go to your local gunshop).
    3. Purchase the machine gun as an individual or through a trust – but, no, you can’t take it home yet! Trusts were popular to avoid certain requirements (fingerprints, law enforcement approval, etc.) but ATF changed the rules last year. Previously, your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) approval was required but the ATF changed the rules last year to only require notification. Also, members of a trust could obtain new NFA firearms without fingerprints/photos but now every lawful possessor is required to submit them each time. These rule changes removed much of the reason to get a trust.
    4. Fill out an ATF Form 4 application to transfer an NFA firearm. This application will include a $200 check for your tax, your fingerprints, a passport-style photograph, and information about you and the firearm.
    5. Wait 9-12 months for the ATF to approve and return your paperwork. Mine took 6 months.
    6. Take your machine-gun home and enjoy!

    Gee, you beat me too it. I already knew that. Al Capone era Tommy Guns are legal to own, assuming you have a permit for them. There's around 600,00 similar weapons out there according to the BATF.  That full auto AR-15 wouldn't fall into that category, and the guy had better have his permit for it.  

    Seeing some of those demos- I seriously doubt rocket and grenade launchers would be considered "automatic weapons".  More like "dangerous ordinance".  Ah, l I looked- they're considered "destructive devices". Yeah- it is possible- in a few states- to legally own them, but the cost and time of jumping through the requisite Government Red Tape makes it prohibitive.  I wonder where those guys got that stuff in the first place. Inventory reduction at a National Guard Armory maybe?  

    @hoorta said:

    Gee, you beat me too it. I already knew that. Al Capone era Tommy Guns are legal to own, assuming you have a permit for them. There's around 600,00 similar weapons out there according to the BATF.  That full auto AR-15 wouldn't fall into that category, and the guy had better have his permit for it.  

    Seeing some of those demos- I seriously doubt rocket and grenade launchers would be considered "automatic weapons".  More like "dangerous ordinance".  Ah, l I looked- they're considered "destructive devices". Yeah- it is possible- in a few states- to legally own them, but the cost and time of jumping through the requisite Government Red Tape makes it prohibitive.  I wonder where those guys got that stuff in the first place. Inventory reduction at a National Guard Armory maybe?  

  • @canton-dawg said:

    They will never admit it.

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just like you guys will never admit Trump lost the election fair and square. 

    Well, that's probably cause the Fat Lady hasn't even warmed up yet.

    Optics may project things differently, but the primary States in contention are still doing things (just no news stories).

    Hell, even WA is looking into Election Fraud.

    CA has 2.1M+ signatures of the needed 1.5M to recall Newsome, so look for some shady underhanded things to go on there before he gets the hook.

    Yea, it's taking a damn long time, but there are still a ton of knuckleheads out there thinking OBuydan and Harris are a good thing.

    @hoorta said:

    BDS!!!

    Case in point.

  • Back too topic, some folk still have a bit of sense.

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  • @hoorta said:

    Gee, you beat me too it. I already knew that. Al Capone era Tommy Guns are legal to own, assuming you have a permit for them. There's around 600,00 similar weapons out there according to the BATF.  That full auto AR-15 wouldn't fall into that category, and the guy had better have his permit for it.  

    Seeing some of those demos- I seriously doubt rocket and grenade launchers would be considered "automatic weapons".  More like "dangerous ordinance".  Ah, l I looked- they're considered "destructive devices". Yeah- it is possible- in a few states- to legally own them, but the cost and time of jumping through the requisite Government Red Tape makes it prohibitive.  I wonder where those guys got that stuff in the first place. Inventory reduction at a National Guard Armory maybe?  

    @vambo said:

    And that has exactly what to do with guns? Nice deflection. Would you like to be a Trumpista and shoot 'em all?  Your automatic weapon will come in handy. 

    Or we can get the Ever Given, pack them all in containers and send them to um- China?  😁 

  • @vambo said:

    And that has exactly what to do with guns? Nice deflection. Would you like to be a Trumpista and shoot 'em all?  Your automatic weapon will come in handy. 

    Or we can get the Ever Given, pack them all in containers and send them to um- China?  😁 

    @hoorta said:

    And that has exactly what to do with guns? Nice deflection. Would you like to be a Trumpista and shoot 'em all?  Your automatic weapon will come in handy. 

    Or we can get the Ever Given, pack them all in containers and send them to um- China?  😁 

  • @hoorta said:

    And that has exactly what to do with guns? Nice deflection. Would you like to be a Trumpista and shoot 'em all?  Your automatic weapon will come in handy. 

    Or we can get the Ever Given, pack them all in containers and send them to um- China?  😁 

    @vambo said:

    Aw gee- it was OK for Trump and the MAGAs to just let 'em rot on the other side of the border- not our problem.  Sure, cram them together with no masks- covid disaster waiting to happen. This didn't cause that spike across America though  😁  

    Television reporter fired for wearing MAGA hat while covering a Trump rally  | wcnc.com

    Here's some inconvenient factoids for ya Vambo....   

    "Apprehensions at the U.S. southern border have been on the rise since April 2020, and now number nearly eighty thousand per month. While the upsurge is significant, it is just half of the 2019 peak levels. It also differs in makeup: Today, the majority of migrants are Mexican, not Central American".  Put your thinking cap on guy- and tell me who was president in 2019, or April of last year.  HINT: it wasn't Joe Biden.  

    Since you want to turn gun control into an OT Biden border rant, here's something I saw that's just as off topic.... You global warming deniers just keep on keeping on it's phony. 

    "Amid an exceptionally warm March in Japan, the cherry blossoms in Kyoto peaked Friday, the earliest in more than 1,200 years of records. The record bloom fits into a long-term pattern toward earlier spring flowering, a compelling indicator of climate change, experts say."

  • @vambo said:

    Aw gee- it was OK for Trump and the MAGAs to just let 'em rot on the other side of the border- not our problem.  Sure, cram them together with no masks- covid disaster waiting to happen. This didn't cause that spike across America though  😁  

    Television reporter fired for wearing MAGA hat while covering a Trump rally  | wcnc.com

    Here's some inconvenient factoids for ya Vambo....   

    "Apprehensions at the U.S. southern border have been on the rise since April 2020, and now number nearly eighty thousand per month. While the upsurge is significant, it is just half of the 2019 peak levels. It also differs in makeup: Today, the majority of migrants are Mexican, not Central American".  Put your thinking cap on guy- and tell me who was president in 2019, or April of last year.  HINT: it wasn't Joe Biden.  

    Since you want to turn gun control into an OT Biden border rant, here's something I saw that's just as off topic.... You global warming deniers just keep on keeping on it's phony. 

    "Amid an exceptionally warm March in Japan, the cherry blossoms in Kyoto peaked Friday, the earliest in more than 1,200 years of records. The record bloom fits into a long-term pattern toward earlier spring flowering, a compelling indicator of climate change, experts say."

    @hoorta said:

    Aw gee- it was OK for Trump and the MAGAs to just let 'em rot on the other side of the border- not our problem.  Sure, cram them together with no masks- covid disaster waiting to happen. This didn't cause that spike across America though  😁  

    Television reporter fired for wearing MAGA hat while covering a Trump rally  | wcnc.com

    Here's some inconvenient factoids for ya Vambo....   

    "Apprehensions at the U.S. southern border have been on the rise since April 2020, and now number nearly eighty thousand per month. While the upsurge is significant, it is just half of the 2019 peak levels. It also differs in makeup: Today, the majority of migrants are Mexican, not Central American".  Put your thinking cap on guy- and tell me who was president in 2019, or April of last year.  HINT: it wasn't Joe Biden.  

    Since you want to turn gun control into an OT Biden border rant, here's something I saw that's just as off topic.... You global warming deniers just keep on keeping on it's phony. 

    "Amid an exceptionally warm March in Japan, the cherry blossoms in Kyoto peaked Friday, the earliest in more than 1,200 years of records. The record bloom fits into a long-term pattern toward earlier spring flowering, a compelling indicator of climate change, experts say."

    Rot?  You must be getting your information from the Progressive AOC hotline.

  • Not a big deal but we really do have enough separate threads that we  don't hijack every fucking one.

     PS I don't care who started it and if it was me in which case sorry…

    ?

    WSS

  • But we aren't even talking about grenade launchers that's just facetious on your part. We are talking about a  semiautomatic hunting rifle with a multiple round clip  Which is called an assault weapon if the stock is aluminium instead of wood.

     But let's not be coy we know which type of firearm kills the most people in the course of a year,  the handgun. Why wouldn't you liberals focus on those?

     Allow me to answer. Because its political theatre..

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    We are talking about a  semiautomatic hunting rifle with a multiple round clip 

    WSS

    Ain't nobody I have ever known that takes anything like that hunting for anything other than at ranges for grins. And they have as much luck with grins as they do with snipes.?

  • Back too topic, some folk still have a bit of sense.

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    @jafbf said:

    Back too topic, some folk still have a bit of sense.

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    West Virginia already has this

  • @westside-steve said:

    We are talking about a  semiautomatic hunting rifle with a multiple round clip 

    WSS

    Ain't nobody I have ever known that takes anything like that hunting for anything other than at ranges for grins. And they have as much luck with grins as they do with snipes.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ain't nobody I have ever known that takes anything like that hunting for anything other than at ranges for grins. And they have as much luck with grins as they do with snipes.?

    You’ve obviously never been hunting in WV. I know many people that hunt with a semiautomatic rifle

  • @jafbf said:

    Back too topic, some folk still have a bit of sense.

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    West Virginia already has this

    @browns149 said:

    West Virginia already has this

    And I disagree with it. The advantage of requiring training for a license is so that you not only show proficiency with what you have, but also thoroughly understand all the laws on use so that you don't end up in some civil suit that takes all your money because you fucked up the understanding of when they are appropriate to use or not to use.