2021 'Who are you watching?' NFL prospect thread.
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Numbers look like a good day 3 get, but 1:1 reps outside of the most recent SrBowl are light on the intertubes. Anyone heard anything about Benjamin St. Juste [CB - Minnesota]? He went against Bateman every day for 2 years, he's at minimum better than Tavierre Thomas..
Numbers look like a good day 3 get, but 1:1 reps outside of the most recent SrBowl are light on the intertubes. Anyone heard anything about Benjamin St. Juste [CB - Minnesota]? He went against Bateman every day for 2 years, he's at minimum better than Tavierre Thomas..
Since 2014 Minnesota has had a DB drafted every season but 2018. Last year they had two. That’s pretty impressive for a program that hasn’t had great success the last couple decades aside from a couple seasons. -
Numbers look like a good day 3 get, but 1:1 reps outside of the most recent SrBowl are light on the intertubes. Anyone heard anything about Benjamin St. Juste [CB - Minnesota]? He went against Bateman every day for 2 years, he's at minimum better than Tavierre Thomas..
Since 2014 Minnesota has had a DB drafted every season but 2018. Last year they had two. That’s pretty impressive for a program that hasn’t had great success the last couple decades aside from a couple seasons.
Since 2014 Minnesota has had a DB drafted every season but 2018. Last year they had two. That’s pretty impressive for a program that hasn’t had great success the last couple decades aside from a couple seasons.Minny always seems to have a name or two. Eric Decker was a dog. Don't forget they had Lawrence Maroney and Marion the barbarian in the same backfield at one point.
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One name sure to be there for us is Wake's Bashum...
nope.
Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE Wake Forest - Draft Player Profile ...
nope.
Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE Wake Forest - Draft Player Profile ...
Guess again... or at least find a relevant rebuttal. You know... like a ranking...
And FYI... "TDN" stands for The Draft Network, a/k/a, your referenced source where Bashum is their 9th ranked Edge on both boards.
You really do have comprehension issues.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
nope.
Carlos Basham Jr. EDGE Wake Forest - Draft Player Profile ...
Guess again... or at least find a relevant rebuttal. You know... like a ranking...
And FYI... "TDN" stands for The Draft Network, a/k/a, your referenced source where Bashum is their 9th ranked Edge on both boards.
You really do have comprehension issues.
Guess again... or at least find a relevant rebuttal. You know... like a ranking...
And FYI... "TDN" stands for The Draft Network, a/k/a, your referenced source where Bashum is their 9th ranked Edge on both boards.
You really do have comprehension issues.
I think Cal is referring to the spelling of the last name.
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I don't know this Cleveland writer?.. but he's blunt & bold & certainly not Mary Kay
Rousseau: 14 games 15.5 sacks. He was second only to Chase Young in 2019. That was his first full season at DE in college football. The “experts” i see point out the competition getting the sacks against inferior interior lineman. Of those sacks half appear to be Rousseau chasing down and closing on the QB (impressively) not necessarily beating his man. Looks to me that he needs coached up to use his hands and develop some pass rush setups to match his size. BUT the closing burst and pursuit and range and motor I see is GREAT...keep in mind he would be chasing and pursuing guys like Burrow and Jackson- who keep plays alive and would be looking over their shoulder to see where Myles is coming. You have to love a tall bodied interior force too getting his mitts in passing lanes.
Now I’m throwing Paye in here 11.5 sacks in 28 games. We discredited this by saying the scheme was the cause of the sack numbers being less than remarkable. I don’t recall and OSU/UM game where he was on the field that I thought OSU has to be concerned with this guy. He tested much better he’s got all the buzz and to get him you’d have to move up. Just Don’t see it from my perspective.
Rousseau: 14 games 15.5 sacks. He was second only to Chase Young in 2019.
Supposedly his pro day was not impressive.
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Rousseau: 14 games 15.5 sacks. He was second only to Chase Young in 2019.
Supposedly his pro day was not impressive.
Supposedly his pro day was not impressive.
Yeah I heard that...his teammate Jaelan Phillips had a better pro day.
Rousseau started over Phillips and Phillips has a concussion history.
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Guess again... or at least find a relevant rebuttal. You know... like a ranking...
And FYI... "TDN" stands for The Draft Network, a/k/a, your referenced source where Bashum is their 9th ranked Edge on both boards.
You really do have comprehension issues.
I think Cal is referring to the spelling of the last name.
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Bash'em or Bash'-uuummm ? might be tour's way of thinking?
anywho?
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
@tour2ma.. I've found my guy.. Stick him behind Conklin ...
TDN--
Brady Christensen aligned at left tackle for the Cougars offense. He plays the game with average overall athleticism, with regards to his agility and movement skills. He does a good job handling edge defenders in their conference. However, his athletic limitations may be an issue at the next level. Although he aligns at left tackle, he could be better suited at right tackle while also adding value at guard. He plays with the level of football intelligence required to play multiple positions. He has redeeming value in his size, strength, and football IQ, but would likely struggle against athletic rushers in the NFL if he remains at left tackle.
Ideal Role: Backup swing offensive tackle.
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Bash'em or Bash'-uuummm ? might be tour's way of thinking?
anywho?
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
@tour2ma.. I've found my guy.. Stick him behind Conklin ...
TDN--
Brady Christensen aligned at left tackle for the Cougars offense. He plays the game with average overall athleticism, with regards to his agility and movement skills. He does a good job handling edge defenders in their conference. However, his athletic limitations may be an issue at the next level. Although he aligns at left tackle, he could be better suited at right tackle while also adding value at guard. He plays with the level of football intelligence required to play multiple positions. He has redeeming value in his size, strength, and football IQ, but would likely struggle against athletic rushers in the NFL if he remains at left tackle.
Ideal Role: Backup swing offensive tackle.
Bash'em or Bash'-uuummm ? might be tour's way of thinking?
anywho?
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
@tour2ma.. I've found my guy.. Stick him behind Conklin ...
TDN--
Brady Christensen aligned at left tackle for the Cougars offense. He plays the game with average overall athleticism, with regards to his agility and movement skills. He does a good job handling edge defenders in their conference. However, his athletic limitations may be an issue at the next level. Although he aligns at left tackle, he could be better suited at right tackle while also adding value at guard. He plays with the level of football intelligence required to play multiple positions. He has redeeming value in his size, strength, and football IQ, but would likely struggle against athletic rushers in the NFL if he remains at left tackle.
Ideal Role: Backup swing offensive tackle.
The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
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Bash'em or Bash'-uuummm ? might be tour's way of thinking?
anywho?
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
@tour2ma.. I've found my guy.. Stick him behind Conklin ...
TDN--
Brady Christensen aligned at left tackle for the Cougars offense. He plays the game with average overall athleticism, with regards to his agility and movement skills. He does a good job handling edge defenders in their conference. However, his athletic limitations may be an issue at the next level. Although he aligns at left tackle, he could be better suited at right tackle while also adding value at guard. He plays with the level of football intelligence required to play multiple positions. He has redeeming value in his size, strength, and football IQ, but would likely struggle against athletic rushers in the NFL if he remains at left tackle.
Ideal Role: Backup swing offensive tackle.
The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
Man-a-mal Brady has 2 flaws...Already age 23.. Arm Length 32.25... Brady has started every game since his red-shirt freshman year.. In fact.. he's played someone since 2018 & 38 starts..
Good news !! I have A&M's Carson Green on deck to watch? .. will he last till 5/6th round?
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Bash'em or Bash'-uuummm ? might be tour's way of thinking?
anywho?
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
@tour2ma.. I've found my guy.. Stick him behind Conklin ...
TDN--
Brady Christensen aligned at left tackle for the Cougars offense. He plays the game with average overall athleticism, with regards to his agility and movement skills. He does a good job handling edge defenders in their conference. However, his athletic limitations may be an issue at the next level. Although he aligns at left tackle, he could be better suited at right tackle while also adding value at guard. He plays with the level of football intelligence required to play multiple positions. He has redeeming value in his size, strength, and football IQ, but would likely struggle against athletic rushers in the NFL if he remains at left tackle.
Ideal Role: Backup swing offensive tackle.
The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
Technique will still be evident (should be) regardless of opponent.
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The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
Technique will still be evident (should be) regardless of opponent.
Technique will still be evident (should be) regardless of opponent.
But will that hold up against NFL speed? That is the question.
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The problem with evaluating any player from BYU, whether the QB or the OT, is that due to COVID they played not one power 5 team in 2020.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/252
Man-a-mal Brady has 2 flaws...Already age 23.. Arm Length 32.25... Brady has started every game since his red-shirt freshman year.. In fact.. he's played someone since 2018 & 38 starts..
Good news !! I have A&M's Carson Green on deck to watch? .. will he last till 5/6th round?
Man-a-mal Brady has 2 flaws...Already age 23.. Arm Length 32.25... Brady has started every game since his red-shirt freshman year.. In fact.. he's played someone since 2018 & 38 starts..
Good news !! I have A&M's Carson Green on deck to watch? .. will he last till 5/6th round?
I'd go with their LT Dan Moore, Jr. first. He is likely 3-4th rounder and Green maybe 5-6th. But their best one is taking over the LT spot next year as a Jr,- Kenyon Green. He is going to be a great one there IMO. And one of the Matthews brothers, oft injured Luke, is finally taking over center. Kenyon says he's tearing it up in spring ball. Great bloodlines for sure with older brother Jake starting LT with the Falcons for many years now. Both sons of HOFamer Bruce.
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I liked Walker Little T Stanford but he appears to be a second day guy. Maybe too early for that spot for us.
Ben Cleveland G and James Hudson Cincy could be a good fit for our scheme- quick to the second level.
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Bash'em or Bash'-uuummm ? might be tour's way of thinking?
anywho?
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
@tour2ma.. I've found my guy.. Stick him behind Conklin ...
TDN--
Brady Christensen aligned at left tackle for the Cougars offense. He plays the game with average overall athleticism, with regards to his agility and movement skills. He does a good job handling edge defenders in their conference. However, his athletic limitations may be an issue at the next level. Although he aligns at left tackle, he could be better suited at right tackle while also adding value at guard. He plays with the level of football intelligence required to play multiple positions. He has redeeming value in his size, strength, and football IQ, but would likely struggle against athletic rushers in the NFL if he remains at left tackle.
Ideal Role: Backup swing offensive tackle.
If this unknown LT fell to us in the 4th/5th round? Would ya try swinging him to protect both right and or left tackle?
The guy blocked two different defenders, clearing a path for the RB to go all they way to the end zone. I'm predicting that they'll draft someone for that Tackle role.
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Guess again... or at least find a relevant rebuttal. You know... like a ranking...
And FYI... "TDN" stands for The Draft Network, a/k/a, your referenced source where Bashum is their 9th ranked Edge on both boards.
You really do have comprehension issues.
I think Cal is referring to the spelling of the last name.
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But will that hold up against NFL speed? That is the question.
And that's a fair question, but I think that's where the combination of scouting and projection comes into play.
Ali Marpet ( Going to tag @tour2ma for this) is a prime example. Everything checked out with him. He dominated his level of competition, making it clear he was playing in a division well below his skill set. The physical measurements and combine results checked out + he looked damn efficient and technically refined on tape. 1st round lock? Obviously not because with that projection comes a certain risk that you've pointed out - level of competition. But falling to a high day 2? Sure. Most any GM will be willing to pull that trigger in such a case.
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Man-a-mal Brady has 2 flaws...Already age 23.. Arm Length 32.25... Brady has started every game since his red-shirt freshman year.. In fact.. he's played someone since 2018 & 38 starts..
Good news !! I have A&M's Carson Green on deck to watch? .. will he last till 5/6th round?
I'd go with their LT Dan Moore, Jr. first. He is likely 3-4th rounder and Green maybe 5-6th. But their best one is taking over the LT spot next year as a Jr,- Kenyon Green. He is going to be a great one there IMO. And one of the Matthews brothers, oft injured Luke, is finally taking over center. Kenyon says he's tearing it up in spring ball. Great bloodlines for sure with older brother Jake starting LT with the Falcons for many years now. Both sons of HOFamer Bruce.
I'd go with their LT Dan Moore, Jr. first. He is likely 3-4th rounder and Green maybe 5-6th. But their best one is taking over the LT spot next year as a Jr,- Kenyon Green. He is going to be a great one there IMO. And one of the Matthews brothers, oft injured Luke, is finally taking over center. Kenyon says he's tearing it up in spring ball. Great bloodlines for sure with older brother Jake starting LT with the Falcons for many years now. Both sons of HOFamer Bruce.
Just what i imaged when i watched Carson Green at the Senior Bowl..He's a great kid, having fun, getting to the next level...Not only did I take a looksie ? at Green.. but this popped up on the Network today...https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/carson-green-2021-nfl-draft-prospect-interview I too, see Green as a guard at the next level.. A 5th a probable/ A 6th a steal...?
I'm rowing the boat the Browns have "oodles of dude-ooles" that can play Guard* on this Roster..Hubbard is a better Guard than Tackle & we need a better swing Tackle than Chris Hubbard on this roster... We had to overpay for Conklin for the same reason, imho... Hubbard nor Conklin can play forever & we have the right OL coach to mold their *less priced* replacement...
Camp Brady Christensen, in the 3rd or 4th ?...(we have 2 picks in both rounds)
Edit-- I'll take a look at Mr. Dan Moore jr after next on deck, my hometown kid ECU D'Ante Smith (35.28 arms).
(do more than 5 peeps on here? still have a working job? ?)
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Spent a little time on the Edge this AM with Mssrs. Phillips, Rousseau and Ojulari.
First have to say watching any of these vs. BAMA or Clemson was almost a complete waste of time. When faced with top tier OL talent you aren't going to be wowed. That said...
The one thing all three had in common was lack of a first step and uneven get-offs. The former is God-given, but the latter is focus. Still... there was one who ultimately won me over.
- Ojulari (UGA - 6'2, 249)... Watched his 2020 BAMA and Auburn games. Pretty stiff competition here, so I owe him a look-see vs. an easier mark... but for now... Probably the least disciplined of the three and the most athletic, but really nothing impressed me. Tends to fly upfield in pass rush... and past the QB. Little tech in evidence. Reasonable discipline on run plays away, but not a lot of hard edge setting when they come his way.
- Rousseau (The U - 6'7, 266)... have to look at 2019 for him (2020 opt-out). Found his VaTech and UVA games. Not a pressure Edge-guy... more of a "clean up on aisle flush" Edge player. His go-to Pass rush was make contact with the OL - stop'n'lock - pursue QB someone else flushes. Odd thing is he looks to have the most burst of this group. Good run discipline... when sees play away he can chase and catch it. Again not solid setter when it comes at him.
- Phillips (The U - 6'6, 260)... Rousseau's 2020 replacement... literally... same number (#15) and same position (LDE), but despite the size similarity not a carbon copy. He looks stronger and more agile than Rousseau to my eye. He's my winner here and (so far) my leading Edge prospect not named Paye. Watched his Clemson, VaTech, NCstate and Duke games. Outmatched vs. Clemson's RT he did one thing I did not see the above do... wear his man out. For a half Jaelen was stoned repeatedly on the rush, but then in Q3's 2nd series he started to get a step. Still no clean wins, but closer to it. While all three have nice motors,... Jaelen's looks to be higher displacement. Against lesser RTs he used an inside swim to generate pressure several times across the other three games. This his go-to and really all he showed tech-wise, but he's pretty good at it. Against the run his discipline was highest of these three and while he was not the pursuer on plays away the others were, he turned more runs back inside that the others combined.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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