Clowney is a Brownie
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Two years in a row Clowney visits us and says we're not a good fit. What happened? Best guess - Clowney found out there is no market for someone who played 8 games with zero sacks last year. Having said that, I'm happy to have him if it's a reasonable contract. I could see him being a locker room cancer with his selfishness, but this is the closest we've ever been to being contenders, so you got to take some chances.
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Pass.
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This tells me that his knees passed some sort of physical. Injuries robbed Clowney of some of freakiness but there's no doubt he can be a force...especially against single blocking assignments and especially if he doesn't have to play every snap. This could be an extremely important signing...make it happen. I also think this means we're going CB in the draft.
This tells me that his knees passed some sort of physical.
Knees haven't been an issue the past two seasons. Recently missed times have been core injuries.
As to who to take.. I'd say this allows us to sit back and see which top-20 defensive talent falls to us. The pool of not-elite-but-pretty-good is a large one.
This...
Pass.
Signing him so opponents' Offenses have more trouble doing so.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
If Clowney came on board then our draft board would open up a little more. It wouldn't preclude drafting an edge guy that fell to us, but it would move other positions up the ladder a bit. Maybe even take a chance on an OLB that you think might also be a strong edge rusher. (I don't like running the 'jack of all trades' risk in the 1st round though)
...IMO it also makes trading up or back less stressful.
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I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
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I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
End of his career at 28? I don't think so.
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I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
...nope. It's him.
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I think that Berry's current attitude is This: We're building for the future, but along the way we want to rack up a few super bowls.
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I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
...nope. It's him.
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I think that Berry's current attitude is This: We're building for the future, but along the way we want to rack up a few super bowls.
...nope. It's him.
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I think that Berry's current attitude is This: We're building for the future, but along the way we want to rack up a few super bowls.
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Oh, we'll just stumble upon a couple of Super Bowl appearances on the way to becoming a dynasty, will we?
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Oh, we'll just stumble upon a couple of Super Bowl appearances on the way to becoming a dynasty, will we?
That's the way I see it.
We've gone out in FA and signed some guys to fill some defensive holes for the here and now. We already have some guys for the future in Delpit and Greedy. We're going to draft some guys for the future in a couple of weeks. Perhaps we sign Clowney for the here and now.
I think Berry sees our super bowl window open right here and now. So let's win some super bowls now, while we're building for the future.
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This tells me that his knees passed some sort of physical.
Knees haven't been an issue the past two seasons. Recently missed times have been core injuries.
As to who to take.. I'd say this allows us to sit back and see which top-20 defensive talent falls to us. The pool of not-elite-but-pretty-good is a large one.
This...
Pass.
Signing him so opponents' Offenses have more trouble doing so.
Knees haven't been an issue the past two seasons. Recently missed times have been core injuries.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. He missed half of last year with another knee injury/surgery.
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I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.
The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.
End of his career at 28? I don't think so.
End of his career at 28? I don't think so.
I absolutely love the idea of signing him if health checks out. Biggest thing is that he wouldn't have to play starting snaps. He could be a very nice rotational player and maybe more if he's feeling good. He's only 28...and a #1 pick. We'd have dueling top picks at DE...yes please.
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I thought word from his camp was that we 'Weren't a good fit' for him? Why would we fit now? No better offers?
In the end, I want Berry to get what he wants.
I thought word from his camp was that we 'Weren't a good fit' for him? Why would we fit now? No better offers?
In the end, I want Berry to get what he wants.
Let's face it- Clowney is a mercenary. If he signs with the Browns, it means there were no better offers out there.
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Let's face it- Clowney is a mercenary. If he signs with the Browns, it means there were no better offers out there.
Likely for good reason.
WSS
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OBR did a long-form article on yesterday. Turns out pen to paper is no closer than last week; "actually signing" was just Twitter one-upsmanship for clicks.
So, good thread, all, but we've been played.
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End of his career at 28? I don't think so.
I absolutely love the idea of signing him if health checks out. Biggest thing is that he wouldn't have to play starting snaps. He could be a very nice rotational player and maybe more if he's feeling good. He's only 28...and a #1 pick. We'd have dueling top picks at DE...yes please.
I absolutely love the idea of signing him if health checks out. Biggest thing is that he wouldn't have to play starting snaps. He could be a very nice rotational player and maybe more if he's feeling good. He's only 28...and a #1 pick. We'd have dueling top picks at DE...yes please.
Old Browns vs. New Browns.
Old Browns may get a big name type guy. For example, Willie McGinest and play him 70-80% of the snaps. He’s not effective in that role.
When we were after Watt I loved the idea under the condition that JJ wasn’t expected to play 70-80% of the snaps.
I think Clowney and his agent want an opportunity in a 70-80% snap role so he can get numbers and sign a big deal next season when the cap opens up. He understands what we have and maybe we’ve explained his more limited role here.
I don’t think it’s about money THIS season...teams are scrapping together pennies because of the cap. His agent wants a circumstance that allows Clowney to flourish the most to set up the big pay day in 2022. The Browns have half the equation - he will get less doubles with Myles but does he want to be involved in our super rotation. We may have told his agent we aren’t done upfront with just Clowney we are bringing in more prospects via the draft.
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So Clowney comes in tomorrow. A couple of weeks before the draft. Perfect!
Poke him, prod him, question him...all that stuff. Separately and collectively figure it out in the next few days. And then focus on April 29th with him either ON your team or not.
So Clowney comes in tomorrow. A couple of weeks before the draft. Perfect!
Poke him, prod him, question him...all that stuff. Separately and collectively figure it out in the next few days. And then focus on April 29th with him either ON your team or not.
I'm betting it's sign him on a one year with incentives and then draft another Edge type LB. Send 5 from all directions and watch the QB squirm.
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I can see him signing elsewhere. to can
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