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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This tells me that his knees passed some sort of physical.

    Knees haven't been an issue the past two seasons. Recently missed times have been core injuries.

    @unsympathetic said:

    As to who to take.. I'd say this allows us to sit back and see which top-20 defensive talent falls to us.  The pool of not-elite-but-pretty-good is a large one.

    This...

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Pass.

    Signing him so opponents' Offenses have more trouble doing so.

    @tour2ma said:

    Knees haven't been an issue the past two seasons. Recently missed times have been core injuries.

    I'm not sure what you're talking about. He missed half of last year with another knee injury/surgery. 

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.

    The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.

    End of his career at 28? I don't think so.

    @texasag1969 said:

    End of his career at 28? I don't think so.

    I absolutely love the idea of signing him if health checks out. Biggest thing is that he wouldn't have to play starting snaps. He could be a very nice rotational player and maybe more if he's feeling good. He's only 28...and a #1 pick. We'd have dueling top picks at DE...yes please. 

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  • OrionO Orion

    I thought word from his camp was that we 'Weren't a good fit' for him?  Why would we fit now?  No better offers?

    In the end, I want Berry to get what he wants.

    @orion said:

    I thought word from his camp was that we 'Weren't a good fit' for him?  Why would we fit now?  No better offers?

    In the end, I want Berry to get what he wants.

    Let's face it- Clowney is a mercenary. If he signs with the Browns, it means there were no better offers out there.  

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @orion said:

    I thought word from his camp was that we 'Weren't a good fit' for him?  Why would we fit now?  No better offers?

    In the end, I want Berry to get what he wants.

    Let's face it- Clowney is a mercenary. If he signs with the Browns, it means there were no better offers out there.  

    @hoorta said:

    Let's face it- Clowney is a mercenary. If he signs with the Browns, it means there were no better offers out there.  

    Likely for good reason.

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  • OBR did a long-form article on yesterday. Turns out pen to paper is no closer than last week; "actually signing" was just Twitter one-upsmanship for clicks.

    So, good thread, all, but we've been played.

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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    @texasag1969 said:

    End of his career at 28? I don't think so.

    I absolutely love the idea of signing him if health checks out. Biggest thing is that he wouldn't have to play starting snaps. He could be a very nice rotational player and maybe more if he's feeling good. He's only 28...and a #1 pick. We'd have dueling top picks at DE...yes please. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I absolutely love the idea of signing him if health checks out. Biggest thing is that he wouldn't have to play starting snaps. He could be a very nice rotational player and maybe more if he's feeling good. He's only 28...and a #1 pick. We'd have dueling top picks at DE...yes please. 

    Old Browns vs. New Browns.

    Old Browns may get a big name type guy.  For example, Willie McGinest and play him 70-80% of the snaps. He’s not effective in that role. 

    When we were after Watt I loved the idea under the condition that JJ wasn’t expected to play 70-80% of the snaps. 

    I think Clowney and his agent want an opportunity in a 70-80% snap role so he can get numbers and sign a big deal next season when the cap opens up.  He understands what we have and maybe we’ve explained his more limited role here.  
     

    I don’t think it’s about money THIS season...teams are scrapping together pennies because of the cap.  His agent wants a circumstance that allows Clowney to flourish the most to set up the big pay day in 2022.  The Browns have half the equation - he will get less doubles with Myles but does he want to be involved in our super rotation.  We may have told his agent we aren’t done upfront with just Clowney we are bringing in more prospects via the draft.  
     

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  • So Clowney comes in tomorrow.   A couple of weeks before the draft.  Perfect!  

    Poke him, prod him, question him...all that stuff.  Separately and collectively figure it out in the next few days.  And then focus on April 29th with him either ON your team or not.  

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    So Clowney comes in tomorrow.   A couple of weeks before the draft.  Perfect!  

    Poke him, prod him, question him...all that stuff.  Separately and collectively figure it out in the next few days.  And then focus on April 29th with him either ON your team or not.  

    @orion said:

    So Clowney comes in tomorrow.   A couple of weeks before the draft.  Perfect!  

    Poke him, prod him, question him...all that stuff.  Separately and collectively figure it out in the next few days.  And then focus on April 29th with him either ON your team or not.  

    I'm betting it's sign him on a one year with incentives and then draft another Edge type LB. Send 5 from all directions and watch the QB squirm.

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  • I can see him signing elsewhere. to can

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    I can see him signing elsewhere. to can

    @lbc-mike said:

    I can see him signing elsewhere. to can

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  • It has to be the right deal for the Browns.. Not the other way around..... Incidently.. Has anyone noticed how quiet the Haslams have been since the turnaround?... I do believe this is a good thing and hope the up swing continues...

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    It has to be the right deal for the Browns.. Not the other way around..... Incidently.. Has anyone noticed how quiet the Haslams have been since the turnaround?... I do believe this is a good thing and hope the up swing continues...

    @nickers said:

    It has to be the right deal for the Browns.. Not the other way around..... Incidently.. Has anyone noticed how quiet the Haslams have been since the turnaround?... I do believe this is a good thing and hope the up swing continues...

    They finally made good hires and got out of the way.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @hoorta said:

    What Berry is doing- is: this is our year, we're going for it all. Apparently Berry doesn't see any edge talent at #26 superior toJavedon. I hope it's just another one year contract for Clowney. 

    We've bostered the secondary in FA- it allows us to take the best LB on the board in the first round. 

    Sig bet it's either DB or WR (barring Micah Parsons miracle drop)

    @tiamat63 said:

    Sig bet it's either DB or WR (barring Micah Parsons miracle drop)

    What one are you more confident in? I personally believe it will be wr. I don't think we are drafting db unless greedy still isn't healthy. I'm not high on greedy but I think the browns are.  Plus delpit Harrison Johnson III are the 3  safeties for the 3 safety looks woods loves. Signed Troy Hill to man the nickel spot and I know many here aren't high on ward but I'm bullish on him. If you take only db and I get only wr I'll take that sig bet lol

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  • Clowney signs one year deal with the Browns. . .
     

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/04/browns-sign-jadeveon-clowney-to-a-one-year-deal-worth-about-10-million-to-pair-with-fellow-no-1-overall-pick-myles-garrett.html

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  • Maybe he can pay for a haircut 

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm starting to think the Browns are signing some other Jadeveon Clowney.

    The one some of you are talking about sounds like a really good player, not a guy who is an also-ran who is beginning the end of his career bouncing from one team to another.

    End of his career at 28? I don't think so.

    @texasag1969 said:

    End of his career at 28? I don't think so.

    JJ must be feeling ancient.

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  • One year.... $8mm with incentives for an added $2mm.

    Smart deal.

    Can't wait to see the incentives, but have to guess there's number of starts including playoff starts.

    Berry is going for it in 2021.

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  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @tiamat63 said:

    Sig bet it's either DB or WR (barring Micah Parsons miracle drop)

    What one are you more confident in? I personally believe it will be wr. I don't think we are drafting db unless greedy still isn't healthy. I'm not high on greedy but I think the browns are.  Plus delpit Harrison Johnson III are the 3  safeties for the 3 safety looks woods loves. Signed Troy Hill to man the nickel spot and I know many here aren't high on ward but I'm bullish on him. If you take only db and I get only wr I'll take that sig bet lol

    @bjh2130 said:

    What one are you more confident in? I personally believe it will be wr. I don't think we are drafting db unless greedy still isn't healthy. I'm not high on greedy but I think the browns are.  Plus delpit Harrison Johnson III are the 3  safeties for the 3 safety looks woods loves. Signed Troy Hill to man the nickel spot and I know many here aren't high on ward but I'm bullish on him. If you take only db and I get only wr I'll take that sig bet lol

    More confident in DB.  And keep in mind Troy wasn't JUST signed to play nickel.  Chances are he'll be outside when we're in our nickel base.

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  • Just saw the deal - I'm good with it.

    Berry all aboard this Super Bowl train.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @bjh2130 said:

    What one are you more confident in? I personally believe it will be wr. I don't think we are drafting db unless greedy still isn't healthy. I'm not high on greedy but I think the browns are.  Plus delpit Harrison Johnson III are the 3  safeties for the 3 safety looks woods loves. Signed Troy Hill to man the nickel spot and I know many here aren't high on ward but I'm bullish on him. If you take only db and I get only wr I'll take that sig bet lol

    More confident in DB.  And keep in mind Troy wasn't JUST signed to play nickel.  Chances are he'll be outside when we're in our nickel base.

    @tiamat63 said:

    More confident in DB

    Certainly in the mix, but which Rnd 1-worthy one falls to us at 26 who is not named Farley?

    Of course if he does and our Med Staff has cleared him, then cha-ching.

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