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  • @dutch-oven said:

    3 sacks in his last 22 games played.

    Three.

    True.  
     

    Is it Kwity Paye scenario - scheme and getting the pressures but not the numbers? 
     

    Paye had 11 1/2 in 28 games 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    True.  
     

    Is it Kwity Paye scenario - scheme and getting the pressures but not the numbers? 
     

    Paye had 11 1/2 in 28 games 

    If it is, it must be two consecutive schemes that has held him down.

    He had 3 sacks in 13 games with Seattle prior to having none in half a season with Tennessee last year.

    The Browns needed pass rushing help this offseason. I don't understand how Clowney - who has never been a great NFL pass rusher and is getting worse - and Takk McKinley - who has been a disappointment so far in his NFL career, help this weakness. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    True.  
     

    Is it Kwity Paye scenario - scheme and getting the pressures but not the numbers? 
     

    Paye had 11 1/2 in 28 games 

    If it is, it must be two consecutive schemes that has held him down.

    He had 3 sacks in 13 games with Seattle prior to having none in half a season with Tennessee last year.

    The Browns needed pass rushing help this offseason. I don't understand how Clowney - who has never been a great NFL pass rusher and is getting worse - and Takk McKinley - who has been a disappointment so far in his NFL career, help this weakness. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    If it is, it must be two consecutive schemes that has held him down.

    He had 3 sacks in 13 games with Seattle prior to having none in half a season with Tennessee last year.

    Well, I guess he's due then...... 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    If it is, it must be two consecutive schemes that has held him down.

    He had 3 sacks in 13 games with Seattle prior to having none in half a season with Tennessee last year.

    Well, I guess he's due then...... 

    @d-bone said:

    Well, I guess he's due then...... 

    Can we get pressures, stellar run defense, maybe some pass knockdowns and some overall general concern for him from opposing teams...that’s a major win for us.  Seems attainable too. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Well, I guess he's due then...... 

    Can we get pressures, stellar run defense, maybe some pass knockdowns and some overall general concern for him from opposing teams...that’s a major win for us.  Seems attainable too. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Can we get pressures, stellar run defense, maybe some pass knockdowns and some overall general concern for him from opposing teams...that’s a major win for us.  Seems attainable too. 

    I would have taken Vernon over Clowney easily if it wasn't for Vernon's injury. 

  • Another point of view. And I agree with them both. Watching the offseason changes to the O last year made them fun to watch. I feel the same way with what's happening now with the D.

  • While it remains to be seen if Clowney can stay healthy, I will say that it is great to see the Browns hyper actively trying to fix their glaring deficiency from last year. That alone is all I was asking for and they have exceeded my hopes 2 weeks before draft day.  

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

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    3 sacks in his last 22 games played.

    Three.

    @dutch-oven said:

    3 sacks in his last 22 games played.

    Three

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    3 sacks in his last 22 games played.

    Three

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    @orion said:

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Can we get pressures, stellar run defense, maybe some pass knockdowns and some overall general concern for him from opposing teams...that’s a major win for us.  Seems attainable too. 

    I would have taken Vernon over Clowney easily if it wasn't for Vernon's injury. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I would have taken Vernon over Clowney easily if it wasn't for Vernon's injury. 

    Don’t agree with this but you never how things work out. 

  • AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I would have taken Vernon over Clowney easily if it wasn't for Vernon's injury. 

    Don’t agree with this but you never how things work out. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Don’t agree with this but you never how things work out. 

    Clowney does not get after the qb. He exists on name rec. He is very strong against the run tho. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    One year deal for a little over half the price we paid Vernon last year. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    That was a solid hit and i love seeing a Michigan player blown up but I believe Clowney has been vastly overrated since this hit. I'm still happy with the signing but I'm also not expecting double digit sacks from him this year or anything. I'm a homer but I'm partial to this hit. I love Gus Johnson btw (see Woody not a complete hater of Michigan) and his call of this.  "You got barbecue back there and didn't invite me? Hurt. My. Feelings."

    @bjh2130 said:

    That was a solid hit and i love seeing a Michigan player blown up but I believe Clowney has been vastly overrated since this hit. I'm still happy with the signing but I'm also not expecting double digit sacks from him this year or anything. I'm a homer but I'm partial to this hit. I love Gus Johnson btw (see Woody not a complete hater of Michigan) and his call of this.  "You got barbecue back there and didn't invite me? Hurt. My. Feelings."

    I think he's one of the most overrated players in the entire nfl if you really pay attention. He has huge name rec and it's undeserved. I loved the pick ups from the rams in fa early by the Browns but this one for me is stinky. Take my steeler Fandom out of the equation. Hes not worth 10m either. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    AFC North
    Hide your QB...better draft some Tackles.

    Maybe the best hit I’ve seen in College Football

    8D5F5D1F-39A5-4BA9-AB3C-866FB5A93DA4.jpeg

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

  • @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    One year deal for a little over half the price we paid Vernon last year. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    One year deal for a little over half the price we paid Vernon last year. 

    It's not terrible. He's just not as good as people think he is. 

  • @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Is Andrew V coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    I hope not. He sucks. 

  • @vagitron said:

    It's one of the reasons he got drafted where he did. You all should temper your enthusiasm with clowney. He's very strong against the run but unless he can feed off Garrett double teams sacking the qb isn't exactly his forte. I frankly think you all paid him too much money. I will eat some crow if I'm wrong. 

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

  • @orion said:

    ...yeah...that's not very flattering...

    But I once was watching a game and saw a replay of a play that he had just made......he was lined up inside and at the snap of the ball he juked one way, then pounced back in the other direction and tapped the guard on the back as he was leaving him in the dust while wrapping up the QB and ending the play before it even got started.   I remember being in awe ....of somebody of that size, being so blazing quick.....

    We'll see.  

    It's probably a good idea to build a nice rotation for Myles.  We saw how he struggled for breath after having COVID last year.  And who knows how long that lasts?  And who knows what the NFL is going to be like this year, COVID wise?  A good rotation might be a good idea especially in COVID times.

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sure, a good stable of DLinemen is always a great thing, and Clowney does bring some good things to the table.

    But this team is no better at rushing the QB today than they were when they walked off the field at Arrowhead in January. 

    If Berry agrees with you then we should see something happen for the position early in the draft.  Clowney is a one year deal.  A mercenary.  He's not representative of the 'building for the future' part of the plan.  He fits with the 'rack up a few super bowls while we're at it' part of the plan.  🙂

    So far, Berry has been throwing bodies at the opposite side from Myles. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Is A Villaneuva coming back to block Myles or Clowney? 

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

    @vagitron said:

    As it stands it's okorafor and banner. If Jenkins is there at 24 I could see the steelers drafting him. I will be shocked if villanueva comes back and if he does it better be damn near free. There are a lot of lineman in this draft. AL gets dog walked by top level comp. You are also seriously hitting the bottle if you think clowney is just gonna be killing qb's. Garrett he is not unless he finds another gear he's never found. I mean that as nicely as possible. Lol

    Thanks for your opinion.

    I see problems for the Steelers 

  • Fans love a good stat-line player.... while the media never tracks a players real assignment ?..

    JC was rarely used inside with Vrabel..that's on Vrabel.. Hawks did..and had success with QB hits & QB chit stains.. I'll trust Joe Woods on giving JC every chance to hit those incentives