First, Second or Third round DTs?
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I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised at how the defenders slip in this draft.
Lots of QBs and lots of QB needy teams, you have WRs, you have Olineman. And then the draft is always good for 2 or 3 first round head scratchers.
Pretty soon you have guys like Parsons, Paye, maybe a top Corner slipping to our pick.
We aren’t used to waiting this long Browns Fans but we can be patient and probably still get our guy or have a choices with a couple guys.
where it gets interesting...we may have a couple guys in mind with high grades we take one and then we come up and take the other. I think we need a corner and a front 7 guy in this draft that can play meaningful snaps.
We have 2,3,3,4,4 kind of ammunition to make a move.
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At 26? Can't follow you that far
Agree... the value isn't quite there at 26, but if we got stuck there, then he just might be the best use of the pick.
After our FA haul, the more I look at how R1 likely develops, the more I see a trade down in the offing... but for that you need a reasonably motivated partner.
After our FA haul, the more I look at how R1 likely develops, the more I see a trade down in the offing... but for that you need a reasonably motivated partner.
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What do any of you think of these names as possible picks for the Browns in the second or third round at Defensive Tackle (assuming they don't take one in round one):
Alim McNeili NC St.
Milton Williams La Tech
Jaylen Twyman Pitt
Tommy Togiai Ohio St.
All I really know about their skills is that Togiai was a monster bench presser.
And with the Release of Sheldon Richardson, I guess we should also be thinking about a possible First rounder. Who there?
What do any of you think of these names as possible picks for the Browns in the second or third round at Defensive Tackle (assuming they don't take one in round one):
Alim McNeili NC St.
Milton Williams La Tech
Jaylen Twyman Pitt
Tommy Togiai Ohio St.
All I really know about their skills is that Togiai was a monster bench presser
McNeil is huge and athletic....and Onwuzurike impresses me.
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With the Release of Richardson...I am going to change the title of the thread to include First Round DTs.
So? What names should we be looking at here in round one?
Barmore.
Anyone else? Or just the name listed above by various commentators?
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With the Release of Richardson...I am going to change the title of the thread to include First Round DTs.
So? What names should we be looking at here in round one?
Barmore.
Anyone else? Or just the name listed above by various commentators?
With the Release of Richardson...I am going to change the title of the thread to include First Round DTs.
So? What names should we be looking at here in round one?
Barmore.
Anyone else? Or just the name listed above by various commentators?
I'd be shocked to grab a DT in the first round unless someone dropped who we adore. I think it's CB all the way (maybe Edge) with DT in the second round.
Both Clowney and Garrett can play inside if need be and with Billings set to return, we're thin at DT but not emaciated. We also signed Malik Jackson (I think), so that's probably our other starter. We've got Garrett, Malik Jackson, Billings, and Clowney starting, with a few others on the roster. What we really need is an explosive DT who gets pressure. I'm rather shocked we didn't keep Ogunjobi or Sheldon, but whatever. I'll especially pissed at letting Sheldon walk, regardless of cost.
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This ain't madden. You guys need to stop suggesting our edge players at IDL.
Still not convinced we take IDL in the 1st either.
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This ain't madden. You guys need to stop suggesting our edge players at IDL.
Still not convinced we take IDL in the 1st either.
Still not convinced we take IDL in the 1st either.
I don't see it either.
Besides everyone knows we are taking Browning in the 1st...
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This ain't madden. You guys need to stop suggesting our edge players at IDL.
Still not convinced we take IDL in the 1st either.
This ain't madden. You guys need to stop suggesting our edge players at IDL.
Still not convinced we take IDL in the 1st either.
Several analysts have said it. They won't play a ton inside, but they absolutely both inside during a game. (Clowney and Garrett)
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Since I'm a Fan & the Brown's braintrust are NOW Professionals, I've gotta say...
Mike
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This ain't madden. You guys need to stop suggesting our edge players at IDL.
Still not convinced we take IDL in the 1st either.
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Me either.
Not many DTs that seem to fit the bill as a late first rounder. Could see the Browns double up on them later on though.
I can see us taking decent DT's 2nd and 3rd rounds if we go CB or WR in the 1st. Playing moneyball again we might jump up to get one of those 3 top WRs and release/trade OBJ who seems to not be so crucial as we all had expected. We did better without him.
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Me either.
Not many DTs that seem to fit the bill as a late first rounder. Could see the Browns double up on them later on though.
I can see us taking decent DT's 2nd and 3rd rounds if we go CB or WR in the 1st. Playing moneyball again we might jump up to get one of those 3 top WRs and release/trade OBJ who seems to not be so crucial as we all had expected. We did better without him.
I can see us taking decent DT's 2nd and 3rd rounds if we go CB or WR in the 1st. Playing moneyball again we might jump up to get one of those 3 top WRs and release/trade OBJ who seems to not be so crucial as we all had expected. We did better without him.
I really like WR Rashod Bateman from Minnesota, if they went this way.
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Bobby Brown III in later rounds 5 or 6. Nothing to lose and everything to gain if he is still there. Power DT run stuffer.
Bobby Brown III in later rounds 5 or 6. Nothing to lose and everything to gain if he is still there. Power DT run stuffer.
Not been the same player since Whitney Houston passed away ....
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I can see us taking decent DT's 2nd and 3rd rounds if we go CB or WR in the 1st. Playing moneyball again we might jump up to get one of those 3 top WRs and release/trade OBJ who seems to not be so crucial as we all had expected. We did better without him.
I really like WR Rashod Bateman from Minnesota, if they went this way.
I really like WR Rashod Bateman from Minnesota, if they went this way.
Can he switch and play defensive tackle?
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I really like WR Rashod Bateman from Minnesota, if they went this way.
Can he switch and play defensive tackle?
Can he switch and play defensive tackle?
Maybe if he bulked up a bit ...he will have good speed to rush the passer
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What do any of you think of these names as possible picks for the Browns in the second or third round at Defensive Tackle (assuming they don't take one in round one):
Alim McNeili NC St.
Milton Williams La Tech
Jaylen Twyman Pitt
Tommy Togiai Ohio St.
All I really know about their skills is that Togiai was a monster bench presser.
And with the Release of Sheldon Richardson, I guess we should also be thinking about a possible First rounder. Who there?
What do any of you think of these names as possible picks for the Browns in the second or third round at Defensive Tackle (assuming they don't take one in round one):
Alim McNeili NC St.
Milton Williams La Tech
Jaylen Twyman Pitt
Tommy Togiai Ohio St.
All I really know about their skills is that Togiai was a monster bench presser.
And with the Release of Sheldon Richardson, I guess we should also be thinking about a possible First rounder. Who there?
Looks good!
Here's some stuff I put in another thread that may be relevant.
Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Athlon's Draft Guide :
1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'2" 305 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 13.5 TFL 5.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round
2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - (2020 stats) 9.5 TFL 8 sacks 6 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round
3. Jaylen Twyman - Pittsburgh - 6'2" 295 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 10.5 TFL 10.5 sacks 2 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round.
4. Jay Tufele - USC - 6'3" 310 lbs Jr - (2020 stats) 6.5 TFL 4.5 sacks 1 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round
5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - (2020 stats) 6 TFL 2 sacks 0 QBH - Final Grade: 1st/2nd round
Here's the top 5 DT prospects from Lindy's Draft Guide.
1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'3" 305 lbs Jr - 40 time 4.95 - Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. Listed as the Pass Rush Proto-type for the DT position stating: "Nixon fires off the snap like he's been shot out of a cannon, exhibiting rare flexibility to slither through gaps and close on the QB." Final Grade: 1st round
2. Christian Barmore - Alabama - 6'5" 310 lbs So - 40 time 4.94 - Listed as the DT Prototype for Run Defense stating "The broad-shouldered Barmore is built like a barn door and possesses the raw strength and length to corral ballcarriers." Final Grade: 1st round
3. Marvin Wilson - Florida State - 6'4" 305 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.95 - Extremely agile with tremendous strength and ability to fire off the snap. Uses cinder block hands to break the grips of would-be blockers. Knocked down 4 passes as a junior in just 9 games and blocked 3 kicks as a senior. Writer gives him a comparison to the Eagles Fletcher Cox which is high praise especially if that's accurate. - Final Grade: 2nd round.
4. Khyiris Tonga - BYU - 6'3" 340 lbs Sr - 40 time 5.25. Very powerful player that played NG. Shows great quickness for a guy his size and will face a lot of double teams in the trenches. Listed as the Prototype for Intangibles with the following endorsement: "Overshadowed by QB Zach Wison, Tonga was the Cougars' unquestioned star on defense and stayed true to his commitment to Head Coach Kilane Sitake, following him from Utah to rival BYU." Final Grade: 2nd round
5. Levi Onwuzurike - Washington - 6'3" 295 lbs Sr - 40 time 4.96. Listed as DT Prototype for Tackling with this description: "A sleeper of sorts in this class after opting out of of the 2020 season. He recorded an impressive 45 stops in 2019 , showing terrific quickness, balance and the long arms to lasso ballcarriers." - Final Grade: 2nd/3rd round
It doesn't look like there's a Big Sexy that will attract upper/mid 1st round interest here; while the Browns don't pick until #26 overall... Looks to me like we can still add a DT and LB with our 1st 2 picks. My guess is LB in round 1 and DT in round 2.
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Several analysts have said it. They won't play a ton inside, but they absolutely both inside during a game. (Clowney and Garrett)
I'm sure several analysts have said a lot. I can think of a few more "exotic" looks we might deploy against the Ravens and their expansive run game structures. Beyond that? You won't see Myles on the interior barring obvious down and distance passing situations. Or any of our edge players for that matter.
1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'3" 305 lbs Jr - 40 time 4.95 - Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. Listed as the Pass Rush Proto-type for the DT position stating: "Nixon fires off the snap like he's been shot out of a cannon, exhibiting rare flexibility to slither through gaps and close on the QB." Final Grade: 1st round
Athlon and I are going to have a real disagreement here. Because I watched the Iowa State and Sparty games and that was about the complete opposite of what I saw. Also, if Nixon is 305 then I'm a god damn china-man. ( @dutch-oven, a little movie line there I snuck in)
edit: directed in general - wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns go 2 IDL in the first 4 rounds or so. I don't believe Sheldon Day makes the active roster.
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Bobby Brown III in later rounds 5 or 6. Nothing to lose and everything to gain if he is still there. Power DT run stuffer.
Not been the same player since Whitney Houston passed away ....
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Several analysts have said it. They won't play a ton inside, but they absolutely both inside during a game. (Clowney and Garrett)
I'm sure several analysts have said a lot. I can think of a few more "exotic" looks we might deploy against the Ravens and their expansive run game structures. Beyond that? You won't see Myles on the interior barring obvious down and distance passing situations. Or any of our edge players for that matter.
1. Daviyon Nixon - Iowa - 6'3" 305 lbs Jr - 40 time 4.95 - Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. Listed as the Pass Rush Proto-type for the DT position stating: "Nixon fires off the snap like he's been shot out of a cannon, exhibiting rare flexibility to slither through gaps and close on the QB." Final Grade: 1st round
Athlon and I are going to have a real disagreement here. Because I watched the Iowa State and Sparty games and that was about the complete opposite of what I saw. Also, if Nixon is 305 then I'm a god damn china-man. ( @dutch-oven, a little movie line there I snuck in)
edit: directed in general - wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns go 2 IDL in the first 4 rounds or so. I don't believe Sheldon Day makes the active roster.
Athlon and I are going to have a real disagreement here. Because I watched the Iowa State and Sparty games and that was about the complete opposite of what I saw. Also, if Nixon is 305 then I'm a god damn china-man. ( @dutch-oven, a little movie line there I snuck in)
edit: directed in general - wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns go 2 IDL in the first 4 rounds or so. I don't believe Sheldon Day makes the active roster.
Iowa State? That might be why he didn't look like he was at the weight Athlon and Lindy's had him at. Let's not get hung up on official weights in a year without Indy combines that giving us official numbers.
I DO like seeing he was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. If you want to argue he's something we shouldn't have any interest in at pick #26 or #59, that's fine.
Thanks for weighing in...
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Athlon and I are going to have a real disagreement here. Because I watched the Iowa State and Sparty games and that was about the complete opposite of what I saw. Also, if Nixon is 305 then I'm a god damn china-man. ( @dutch-oven, a little movie line there I snuck in)
edit: directed in general - wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns go 2 IDL in the first 4 rounds or so. I don't believe Sheldon Day makes the active roster.
Iowa State? That might be why he didn't look like he was at the weight Athlon and Lindy's had him at. Let's not get hung up on official weights in a year without Indy combines that giving us official numbers.
I DO like seeing he was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. If you want to argue he's something we shouldn't have any interest in at pick #26 or #59, that's fine.
Thanks for weighing in...
Iowa State? That might be why he didn't look like he was at the weight Athlon and Lindy's had him at. Let's not get hung up on official weights in a year without Indy combines that giving us official numbers.
I DO like seeing he was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. If you want to argue he's something we shouldn't have any interest in at pick #26 or #59, that's fine.
Thanks for weighing in...
Last time I looked Iowa State was not in the Big 10. Did you mean Iowa?
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