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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

    @tiamat63 said:

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

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    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @the-gipper said:

    Da Fuck?  I thought he was going to be a mainstay on our DL.  Both DTs from last year to be gone?  He and Ogunjobi?   Seems like we now know what the are focusing in on in the draft. 

    Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu  receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu  receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.

    I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out before they signed Clowney without having to cut anyone. 

    Can Clowney play DT? 

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

    @tiamat63 said:

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

    The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore.  I'm telling ya they have him on that radar.    LOL!?

  • T TexasAg1969

    @tiamat63 said:

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

    The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore.  I'm telling ya they have him on that radar.    LOL!?

    @texasag1969 said:

    The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore.  I'm telling ya they have him on that radar.    LOL!?

    Do you like Barmore?

    We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush. 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @texasag1969 said:

    The new spelling for #98 on the roster will be Barmore.  I'm telling ya they have him on that radar.    LOL!?

    Do you like Barmore?

    We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Do you like Barmore?

    We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush. 

    It's Depo moneyball.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @bjh2130 said:

    Richardson was scheduled to be the third highest player on our roster this year behind the two lsu  receivers. He was going to be paid as a top 10 dt this year. If he wasn't going to restructure or sign an extension with less money this was always likely to happen.

    I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out before they signed Clowney without having to cut anyone. 

    Can Clowney play DT? 

    @the-gipper said:

    I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out

    Copied from another thread; below is Browns 2021 cap reality.

    Browns salary obligations as of 4/16 after Richardson removed are 25.8M over the cap for 2021. The number to pay attention to is "Total Cap Liabilities" - cap is 182.5, dead is 2.7, salaries of active rostered players are 205.6.  Rookies based on the wage scale are 8.9M.  This doesn't include the 1-year rollover [100% of the "cap space" entry of 20.9 on OTC] so Browns are still 4.9M over if nothing else was happening before season start, 13.8M over when you include signing the rookie pool.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • T TexasAg1969

    @dutch-oven said:

    Do you like Barmore?

    We just can't tell. Stop beating around the bush. 

    It's Depo moneyball.

    @texasag1969 said:

    It's Depo moneyball.

    Can Chris Pratt play DLine? 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @texasag1969 said:

    It's Depo moneyball.

    Can Chris Pratt play DLine? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Can Chris Pratt play DLine? 

    I'm hoping the salaries of players cut to reach 53 and not onto PS will come off that total so perhaps we don't to cut more guys who contribute. But i need to look that up somewhere.

    Sometimes diving into the weeds is annoying. Sometimes!

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    @the-gipper said:

    I assumed they already had any cap issues worked out

    Copied from another thread; below is Browns 2021 cap reality.

    Browns salary obligations as of 4/16 after Richardson removed are 25.8M over the cap for 2021. The number to pay attention to is "Total Cap Liabilities" - cap is 182.5, dead is 2.7, salaries of active rostered players are 205.6.  Rookies based on the wage scale are 8.9M.  This doesn't include the 1-year rollover [100% of the "cap space" entry of 20.9 on OTC] so Browns are still 4.9M over if nothing else was happening before season start, 13.8M over when you include signing the rookie pool.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Browns salary obligations are 25.8M over the cap for 2021.. and that's after removing Richardson's contract. 

     13.8M over when you include signing the rookie pool.

    Stunned Confundido GIF - Stunned Confundido Verwirrt GIFs    Yeah Steve.. We too...  were all the sudden the Saints..

    edit-- what am i missing here.. how much was Richardson's cap hit savings?

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  • My understanding is that Hurst was put on waivers, so there are many teams that could claim him before our turn comes.

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  • Richardson's charge against 2021 was 13.16, exact same as his salary in 2020. Dead hit against 2021 after cutting him is 1 2/3.  So savings vs cap is 11.5.

    Found a flaw in my calculations - only 65 who make the roster [53 active, 12 practice squad] will charge against the cap. That total currently is 201.6 [the highest-paid 65] rather than the 208.3 i said above and shown on OTC.  Note that's only a difference of 6.7.. so we're "still" over the cap but only by 7m.

    And here we still haven't included the rookies on the roster.. in calculations before I just added the rookie cost onto the end of the roster.  Say all 9 make the team. Rookie pool is 8,931,008.. I'll underestimate and remove the 9 lowest salaries.. so top 56 plus the rookies.  Or, to be exact, top 55 plus DPJ because DPJ's salary as a 7th rounder is 826 while the vet minimum is 850.  So the 65 for 2021 season including the draftpicks is 200,658,119.  Dead is 2,681,770. Cap is 182,500,000. So 203,339,889 is our 2021 total..

    This assumes the most expensive guys make the roster.. if JoJoNatson [874,265] gets cut and Sheldon Day makes the roster [850] that's 25k lower roster expense.

    So with cap space of 20,935,462 and these assumptions [which won't play out] we're now 95,573 under the cap for 2021.

    Let's see what happens!

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

    @tiamat63 said:

    Browns just released Richardson.

    So.......

    I'm waiting for them to sign Mo. If not, I won't like having Clowney over Richardson. Clowney+Mo Hurst makes sense to me as an upgrade from last season. 

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    they also waived key.

    @lbc-mike said:

    they also waived key.

    Sign him up ....who would not want a Key to help unlock the Chubb ....

  • atkins is still out there

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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    atkins is still out there

    @lbc-mike said:

    atkins is still out there

    At his veteran cost?  That's going to be a hard pass for this front office.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @lbc-mike said:

    atkins is still out there

    At his veteran cost?  That's going to be a hard pass for this front office.

    @tiamat63 said:

    At his veteran cost?  That's going to be a hard pass for this front office.

    now we have a whole in the middle like a doughnut.

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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    @tiamat63 said:

    At his veteran cost?  That's going to be a hard pass for this front office.

    now we have a whole in the middle like a doughnut.

    @lbc-mike said:

    now we have a whole in the middle like a doughnut.

    If you doughnut, they will come.  

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    @tiamat63 said:

    At his veteran cost?  That's going to be a hard pass for this front office.

    now we have a whole in the middle like a doughnut.

    @lbc-mike said:

    now we have a whole in the middle like a doughnut.

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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    atkins is still out there

    @lbc-mike said:

    atkins is still out there

    Who are you proposing cutting to acquire the salary cap space? 

    As the Chiefs demonstrated last season, we need a plan for OL injuries.  Hubbard looks like a fun way to get 4.9 of space - but he sure was helpful last season for a few games.  Njoku and his 6 don't have any takers, and we apparently play TE2/TE3 more than WR3/WR4.. it gets pretty barren after that.  Keenum would be a 7M dead hit this year, 

    At present, after releasing Richardson and including the rookies whose salaries are already known, we have under 100k available. 

    Fun fact, the increase in Johnson/Hill/Ward/Mayfield already are a 20M increase from 2021 to 2022 [assuming 5th yr option] .. so next season we have basically the same situation with RG and RB up for renewal and neither Takk/Clowney signed.. even if the cap increases by 20M.  Here's an early call of Harris starting 2022 at C [release Tretter to save 8.2] and Teller replaced at RG for 2022 with another late-round IOL this season spending a year learning and spot-starting under Callahan.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • apparently he didn't want to leave and go too far:

    49ers agree to deals with Hurst, Key

    https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/sports/article/49...

    1 day ago · SANTA CLARA, Calif. (AP) — The San Francisco 49ers have added two former Raiders defensive linemen by agreeing to contracts with defensive tackle Maurice …

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