The Draft: Round One
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Last pick in Round One:
Tampa Bay takes Joe Tryon DE Washington
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Guys that have dropped who were thought to be 1st rounders:
WR Elijah Moore
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
S Trevon Moehrig
DT Christian Barmore
Edge Azeez Ojulari
I wonder if the Browns could parley some of the 8 picks they have remaining to move up to get any of these guys with first round grades.
I assume you all have some other names to consider moving up for as well.
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Trevor Lawrence looked like he was wearing the women's suit Michael Scott accidentally bought out of the clearance bin.
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Looking at our shinny new CB, he has missed a lot of college football games due to injury and that stuff tends to follow you.
Hopefully he can shake that and be available week in and week out...
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Fun to hear the boos for Pitt's pick.. and to see Pitt not evaluate themselves very well. RB wasn't the problem, the OL was. Even PFF only rated them 17th overall; somehow first in passpro and dead last in runblock. And they're losing their top runblocker Villaneuva.
Fun to hear the boos for Pitt's pick.. and to see Pitt not evaluate themselves very well. RB wasn't the problem, the OL was. Even PFF only rated them 17th overall; somehow first in passpro and dead last in runblock. And they're losing their top runblocker Villaneuva.
Total nonsense. AL was nowhere near our top run blocker. Dotson was and it wasn't close. Villanueva is thankfully gone (he sucks) and this draft is very deep at offensive line. Najee Harris is just what the doctor ordered especially with fraley off the board. Dickerson round 2 to the steelers. ?
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Looking at our shinny new CB, he has missed a lot of college football games due to injury and that stuff tends to follow you.
Hopefully he can shake that and be available week in and week out...
Looking at our shinny new CB, he has missed a lot of college football games due to injury and that stuff tends to follow you.
Hopefully he can shake that and be available week in and week out...
Yes, more often than not injury history follows you to the NFL. But there are exceptions. The Bungles lone HOFer Anthony Munoz had injury concerns coming out of college but- well- he's in the HOF.
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Looking at our shinny new CB, he has missed a lot of college football games due to injury and that stuff tends to follow you.
Hopefully he can shake that and be available week in and week out...
Yes, more often than not injury history follows you to the NFL. But there are exceptions. The Bungles lone HOFer Anthony Munoz had injury concerns coming out of college but- well- he's in the HOF.
Yes, more often than not injury history follows you to the NFL. But there are exceptions. The Bungles lone HOFer Anthony Munoz had injury concerns coming out of college but- well- he's in the HOF.
Well, between Ward, WIlliams and Newsome the Browns should be able to get 16 games out of two cornerbacks! ?
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Fun to hear the boos for Pitt's pick.. and to see Pitt not evaluate themselves very well. RB wasn't the problem, the OL was. Even PFF only rated them 17th overall; somehow first in passpro and dead last in runblock. And they're losing their top runblocker Villaneuva.
Total nonsense. AL was nowhere near our top run blocker. Dotson was and it wasn't close. Villanueva is thankfully gone (he sucks) and this draft is very deep at offensive line. Najee Harris is just what the doctor ordered especially with fraley off the board. Dickerson round 2 to the steelers. ?
... this draft is very deep at offensive line.
Ummmmm.... no.
Thus Draft is a freakin' OL doughnut... quality at the top with developmental-value sprinkles at the bottom. The quality is going to be gathered up quickly thru R2.
This Draft's real depth lies at WR and IDL with a hint of it at LB and DB.
You got a good RB, but to spend a 1st on an RB given your history of ID-ing "overweight" RBs on Days 2 and 3 and then reshaping them into overachievers it puzzles me.
Is that magic now gone?
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Yes, more often than not injury history follows you to the NFL. But there are exceptions. The Bungles lone HOFer Anthony Munoz had injury concerns coming out of college but- well- he's in the HOF.
Well, between Ward, WIlliams and Newsome the Browns should be able to get 16 games out of two cornerbacks! ?
Well, between Ward, WIlliams and Newsome the Browns should be able to get 16 games out of two cornerbacks! ?
A/K/A.... 2 FTEs. That'll work...
As Berry reported Newsome was fully cleared by our Med staff... so injury history was fully off the table. And he added that being a 20-yo his body is still developing.
There is no denying the talent.
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Looking at our shinny new CB, he has missed a lot of college football games due to injury and that stuff tends to follow you.
Hopefully he can shake that and be available week in and week out...
Looking at our shinny new CB, he has missed a lot of college football games due to injury and that stuff tends to follow you.
Hopefully he can shake that and be available week in and week out...
Looking into it he may not be as injury prone as it seems. The first 8 games he was sat by coaches decision to try and redshirt him. The next 3 were injury and due to the ankle. Then the last three I'm pretty sure this past year were due to contact tracing covid protocols. Northwestern had a few players come down with it. Then of course he was injured in the big ten championship game (groin). I remember watching that game and until he got hurt he had some really good coverage on both Chris olave and Garrett Wilson (both likely first round picks next year).
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... this draft is very deep at offensive line.
Ummmmm.... no.
Thus Draft is a freakin' OL doughnut... quality at the top with developmental-value sprinkles at the bottom. The quality is going to be gathered up quickly thru R2.
This Draft's real depth lies at WR and IDL with a hint of it at LB and DB.
You got a good RB, but to spend a 1st on an RB given your history of ID-ing "overweight" RBs on Days 2 and 3 and then reshaping them into overachievers it puzzles me.
Is that magic now gone?
Ummmmm.... no.
Thus Draft is a freakin' OL doughnut... quality at the top with developmental-value sprinkles at the bottom. The quality is going to be gathered up quickly thru R2.
This Draft's real depth lies at WR and IDL with a hint of it at LB and DB.
You got a good RB, but to spend a 1st on an RB given your history of ID-ing "overweight" RBs on Days 2 and 3 and then reshaping them into overachievers it puzzles me.
Is that magic now gone?
This draft is as deep at offensive line as its been in a while. I respectfully disagree on your assessment. I also don't agree with your assessment at running back. Connor would have been good if he could stay healthy. It was lev before him and deangelo Williams. The last running back to be molded into anything late in the draft was Willie Parker. (Undrafted and Def not overweight) Mendenhall was a first rounder at I believe 23. Issac Redman was okay but he was a journeyman at best. The team I think loves Harris as much for his off the field as they do on it. The guy drove ten hours to support his teammates at their pro day and he didn't even run.
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Read Grade reports from 5 different places ...
The Newsome pick has grades of B+, A-, A, A-, B+
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Tour2ma knows his oline stuff vag.
Najee did look like a whiny crybaby punk little bitch so he will fit right into the culture Pitt is building
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Fun to hear the boos for Pitt's pick.. and to see Pitt not evaluate themselves very well. RB wasn't the problem, the OL was. Even PFF only rated them 17th overall; somehow first in passpro and dead last in runblock. And they're losing their top runblocker Villaneuva.
Total nonsense. AL was nowhere near our top run blocker. Dotson was and it wasn't close. Villanueva is thankfully gone (he sucks) and this draft is very deep at offensive line. Najee Harris is just what the doctor ordered especially with fraley off the board. Dickerson round 2 to the steelers. ?
Total nonsense. AL was nowhere near our top run blocker. Dotson was and it wasn't close. Villanueva is thankfully gone (he sucks) and this draft is very deep at offensive line. Najee Harris is just what the doctor ordered especially with fraley off the board. Dickerson round 2 to the steelers. ?
I agree that Villanova was probably not the best run blocker. Nevertheless, Unsymp is right that OL was more the priority. And as we all know, the trend these days is that you can get good RBs later in the draft. So, not only were the Steeler priorities perhaps off, I think they chose the wrong guy. Etienne is a young Kamara. H
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Nice to see my good friend Hal Owen from Cleveland up on the stage last night ....the guy in the pumpkinhead .....
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Nice to see my good friend Hal Owen from Cleveland up on the stage last night ....the guy in the pumpkinhead .....
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Is Goodell showing the pick to the person on stage before formally announcing it - or just saying hi?
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Round 1...not as they drew it up... huh?
All was going as planed in "the draft for need order of draft"... for all of about 5 picks... until the Bengals drafted Chase over a Lineman of any OL position.?#95 smiled
The Cards stumped me when they chose Zaven Collins over taking a Corner..
I was also, a little surprised that Matt Jones fell right into Patriot Bill's lap right at pick #15...Now let's see what McDaniel's QB salt is worth?
I'd like to thank Mayock for the wtf moment ? from the Raiders.(hows being a Vegas fan now Ghoolie?) The Gettleman Giants did well grabbing picks & a real need of a slot WR like Toney..
Yeah! I got the tavern "pounding the table" award for wanting to trade up 7 slots to Colts for Kwitty Paye (that non-reach ended quickly).. ( i ordered me some shots instead ?..
thought crept in, we may even get Farley? surprised again to see 2 RB's go back2back at Pitt & Jags..
From pick #16 Cards... all lead to Newsome or JOK to tumble into our hands...at that very moment I knew I'd be happy either Way
.. The Leaders took Corner...
Drafts are not built in one Day... Let's show how Cleveland Rocks... & Let's Go Browns ! !
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Ummmmm.... no.
Thus Draft is a freakin' OL doughnut... quality at the top with developmental-value sprinkles at the bottom. The quality is going to be gathered up quickly thru R2.
This Draft's real depth lies at WR and IDL with a hint of it at LB and DB.
You got a good RB, but to spend a 1st on an RB given your history of ID-ing "overweight" RBs on Days 2 and 3 and then reshaping them into overachievers it puzzles me.
Is that magic now gone?
This draft is as deep at offensive line as its been in a while. I respectfully disagree on your assessment. I also don't agree with your assessment at running back. Connor would have been good if he could stay healthy. It was lev before him and deangelo Williams. The last running back to be molded into anything late in the draft was Willie Parker. (Undrafted and Def not overweight) Mendenhall was a first rounder at I believe 23. Issac Redman was okay but he was a journeyman at best. The team I think loves Harris as much for his off the field as they do on it. The guy drove ten hours to support his teammates at their pro day and he didn't even run.
This draft is as deep at offensive line as its been in a while. I respectfully disagree on your assessment. I also don't agree with your assessment at running back. Connor would have been good if he could stay healthy. It was lev before him and deangelo Williams. The last running back to be molded into anything late in the draft was Willie Parker. (Undrafted and Def not overweight) Mendenhall was a first rounder at I believe 23. Issac Redman was okay but he was a journeyman at best. The team I think loves Harris as much for his off the field as they do on it. The guy drove ten hours to support his teammates at their pro day and he didn't even run.
OL...
There are maybe 7 plug-n-play, IOL worth a R2 pick IF you are going to a pure power/gap attack... which given your pick of Harris may be the case. You likely see one... and I think you agree given your OT situation, that you need more than one OL.
Half the 6-ish OTs that are R2 worthy project better inside and only half of these are plug-n-play. This says you should go OT in the 2nd... and that means scraps inside in R3... or "sprinkles" later, e.g., Morrissey.
Your "deep class" is going to get very shallow before your 3rd-round pick rolls around, but there are a few, a very few, Day 3 sleepers who might play come game 1 of 2021, but not at an NFL level.
RB...
Connors is an example of my point on what historically you've done so well. A 3rd rounder who played around 240 at Pitt and 230 for you.
Bell is another... 2nd-rounder who played in the low-230s at MSU and low-220s for you.
Hadn't even thought of Williams, since he was not your pick, but he played in the 2-teens at Memphis and the low-200s for you. And while he was a former R1 pick, he was a reclamation project in PTG.
With all due respect...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Nice to see my good friend Hal Owen from Cleveland up on the stage last night ....the guy in the pumpkinhead .....
Nice to see my good friend Hal Owen from Cleveland up on the stage last night ....the guy in the pumpkinhead .....
Coolest thing? Between your bud and our designated pick announcer we had the two fittest fans to take the stage. Whodathunk that of CLE?
Now about that choir that opened the festivities... sang like they were from the Cleveland School for the Deaf. They definitely could not hear themselves in the moment, but no doubt have since... much to their chagrin.
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