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  • FlugelF Flugel

    Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

    https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

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    darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

    https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

    Reading the Steelers grades and write up was nearly as entertaining as reading the Browns

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    • FlugelF Flugel

      Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

      https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

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      @flugel said:

      Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

      https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

      Considering how far down on the totem pole we started because of our record in 2020, A+ is a fantastic grade. The other one I posted elsewhere gave us 3rd best overall in the NFL. PS- and the consensus was that we were the best in the offseason FA world as well. Give Berry a bonus.

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        @flugel said:

        Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

        https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

        Reading the Steelers grades and write up was nearly as entertaining as reading the Browns

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        @darren15 said:

        Reading the Steelers grades and write up was nearly as entertaining as reading the Browns

        IDK.  Reading about the guys they drafted seems to indicate that they're pretty good players.  - I'm happy with our draft.  And it's good to get some media love.

        BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          Per the article,   The Browns,  Bears,  Chargers, and Patriots got A+  grades.     Denver, Detroit, Jets, Tits,  WTFs  got   A or A-

          I guess this means that we will be seeing the Browns and the Bears  in the Super Bowl in just a couple of years.

          Fair to say?        (I am good with that)

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          • FlugelF Flugel

            Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

            https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

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            Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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            @flugel said:

            Nice to see a Cleveland Browns FO getting this kind of respect especially for a draft that took place in Cleveland!

            https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams

            Berry gets great value in his picks as well. His waiting as long as he did to trade up for JOK & still get him took brass balls!

            Mike

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              PFF's draft grades from 2016

              https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2016-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams

              Grades after the draft rarely look good on anyone. We addressed things with logic, let's hope it plays out.

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                PFF's draft grades from 2016

                https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2016-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams

                Grades after the draft rarely look good on anyone. We addressed things with logic, let's hope it plays out.

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                @tiamat63 said:

                PFF's draft grades from 2016

                https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2016-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams

                Grades after the draft rarely look good on anyone. We addressed things with logic, let's hope it plays out.

                There's a reason many people - Ozzie Newsome chief among them - say you have to wait at least three years to grade a draft class. 

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                  PFF's draft grades from 2016

                  https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2016-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams

                  Grades after the draft rarely look good on anyone. We addressed things with logic, let's hope it plays out.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  PFF's draft grades from 2016

                  https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2016-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams

                  Grades after the draft rarely look good on anyone. We addressed things with logic, let's hope it plays out.

                  As soon as I saw a thread about something from PFF I knew Tia would get here to throw water on PFF...

                  So is the circle of life

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    PFF's draft grades from 2016

                    https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2016-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams

                    Grades after the draft rarely look good on anyone. We addressed things with logic, let's hope it plays out.

                    As soon as I saw a thread about something from PFF I knew Tia would get here to throw water on PFF...

                    So is the circle of life

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    As soon as I saw a thread about something from PFF I knew Tia would get here to throw water on PFF...

                    So is the circle of life

                    Only when it's earned.

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                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                      Good enough for an encore write-up.  I think that we enjoyed the three days in Cleveland !

                      CLEVELAND BROWNS

                      R1 (26): CB Greg Newsome II, Northwestern
                      R2 (52): LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame
                      R3 (91): WR Anthony Schwartz, Auburn
                      R4 (110): OT James Hudson, Cincinnati
                      R4 (132): DI Tommy Togiai, Ohio State
                      R5 (153): LB Tony Fields II, West Virginia
                      R5 (169): S Richard LeCounte, Georgia
                      R6 (211): RB Demetric Felton, UCLA

                      Day 1: The Browns are one of the NFL’s smartest teams, and they attacked one of the most valuable positions in the game here. Newsome is also a very good prospect, representing incredible value here at No. 26. He was battle-tested on a small sample of snaps in 2020, facing 34 targets through his first four games. He held his own, allowing just 93 yards and five first downs while making eight plays on the ball. His feet are easily the best in the class. Whether Newsome is playing off-coverage or press-man, he’ll make plays.

                      Day 2: The Browns continue to make smart moves. It’s not easy to pinpoint a clear role for Owusu-Koramoah in the NFL, but he’s talented enough to contribute somewhere. He’s an off-ball linebacker who had slot cornerback coverage responsibilities in Notre Dame’s defense and looked good in that role. JOK is a smooth, explosive athlete who can fill multiple roles for Cleveland defensively. This is tremendous value for a top-20 player on PFF’s Big Board.

                      Day 3: Cleveland continues to commit highway robbery by getting Tommy Togiai, a Day 2 pick, here on Day 3. He has a powerful bull-rush and can be a forceful 3-technique in both facets. He posted an 87.8 run-defense grade and 77.0 pass-rush grade for the Buckeyes in 2020.

                      Draft Grade: A+

                      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                        LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by LBC mike
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                        I give it a b+.  first two rounds really good. remainder rounds were very mediocre.  just saying.

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                          Hudson and Togiai are great value by themselves for all of day3.. Roll the dice on LeCounte because if he can recover he will make plays at the end of the roster just like DPJ.

                          Tony Fields RAS -- not the same caliber of player as Jacob Phillips RAS or Taki RAS or JOK RAS and barely edged out by Malcolm Smith RAS.

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                            S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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                            I thought our third day was great. 

                            James Hudson is going to start for the Browns in 2022 and will get an early shot if someone goes down probably over Hubbard. 

                            He was highly recruited and is still learning a new position but was highly productive despite not really figuring it all out yet.  He’s quick and nasty.  Callahan is going to turn him into a good starter in the league.  That was a great pick and in time he will make a big impact on our line.

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                                D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                Always nice to receive attaboys from the all knowing peanut gallery, but grading the draft hours after it's over is like buying a brand new car and then immediately proclaiming it the most dependable car you've ever owned. 

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                  A bunch of Draft Grades...

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                                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                    I am watching everything about the Draft "in hindsight". I couldn't watch any of it and I didn't follow the process, I only knew what the Browns needed, and to me every pick speaks of BPA and filling needs, so I think they did great. 

                                    Following what Brett Kollmann says... The Browns got a Top 6 CB, Top 1 LB and a top 6 DT in Newsome, Koramoah and Tagiai respectively. 

                                    I'd say that it is remarkable not having high picks, and along with Hudson and Schwartz I can see all those 5 players contributing in one way or another (say starting or being a rotational player). Plus it follows an already good FA campaign, so watching the combo of FA moves and draft picks makes all the sense in the world to me in the scope of offseason moves.

                                    We can't judge how "right" they have been yet, because drafts are a lottery and each player developes differently in the pros, but the Front Office has done a great job so far, in my opinion. 

                                    Good times!

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                                      McShay didn't give out grades

                                      SportingNews breakdown and summary

                                      Worst value picks

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                                        "Put the dog down, sir"

                                        The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                                          Always nice to receive attaboys from the all knowing peanut gallery, but grading the draft hours after it's over is like buying a brand new car and then immediately proclaiming it the most dependable car you've ever owned. 

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                                          @d-bone said:

                                          Always nice to receive attaboys from the all knowing peanut gallery, but grading the draft hours after it's over is like buying a brand new car and then immediately proclaiming it the most dependable car you've ever owned. 

                                          And that Subaru Outback I rated as A+ when I bought it in 2018 is still an A+ after 50,000 miles just like Garrett & Ward are still an A+.??

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