@oldbrownsfan said:Great post flugel. That lack of sense of urgency is troubling to me. We knew going into this season how the schedule favored us early and how critical it was to get off to a good start but here we sit at 1-3 and we should be 3-1. If this team gets it act together later on in the year when we are out of play off contention it will be a hollow victory for me because we started the season not ready to play football. We have an opportunity right now to turn this around and It will be interesting to see how the Browns play Sunday. Will we finally get a good defensive perfomance only to see the offense struggle or will we get a complete game out of the Browns? Thanks OBF and TypicalBrowns in the post before. I'm sick of reading it's everyone's fault but the well paid players here. This team needs veteran leadership from within it ain't gettin. That group of guys that got us off to 7-4 start playing like a Brown in 2014 had the desire I'm not seeing from the group of guys we're watching this year. We can pretend all we gotta do is bench McCown or fire O'Neil; but aren't we really seeing entitled vets looking like the glacier that sunk the Titanic? Think about when the ship started to sink. We were 6-4 and here comes an entitled Josh Gordon all ready to take plays off and refrain from learning the playbook like a starter should. We won the Atlanta game before the shit hit the fans... What should have become game on became game over. We're at the point we have enough talent to win football games. When Pettine got his NFL diapers and potty training in Baltimore - he saw team leadership from veterans trumping B. Billick's leadership all the way down to breaking down film and showing teammates how to win on the practice field before Sunday. Those bastards didn't play fast by accident folks. The 4 Time AFC Champions in Buffalo had a similar core of team leaders trumping helping Marv Levy look Harvard smart on Sundays, which didn't always happen in his previous football career in KC (with a wing T offense) or up in Canada. When you have the right veteran leadership - you don't see a consistent lack of urgency every week or even worse a team full of guys accepting that level of play.