My all time favorite is this dark Trappist beer from belgium, but it's as expensive as hell as you can see. Just get a couple now and again. http://www.totalwine.com/beer/ale/belgian-style-ale/quadrupel/rochefort-10-trappist-ale/p/14387127?s=510&igrules=true My sister says she is getting that Odell one for me to have this summer, but since I asked I actually located a 4 pack here locally at Total Wine, so......................hi ho, hi ho it's off to shop I go! On the cheaper side a local beer here is Shiner Bock that meets my dark beer tastes. Most American beers just taste watery to me. But of course I started in Venezuela where beer making was more in the European style. If you could get your money on the counter you could get a beer down there. Those were the days my friend. And the rums were "fantastico!!" Steve, you and my son in law seem to love those IPA's. Too bitter for me. I like a finer smooth balance of hops and malts in a meaty dark brew.