Will this be a break out year for Brian Robiskie?
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Having stability at the QB position should do wonders for a player like Robiskie....
Having a year under his belt, becoming accustomed to the speed of the NFL and going through the maturing process should equate to a better year for this young man...
On the other hand, he's gonna' have to bring his "A" game on every play to establish that he's a keeper in this league...
The Browns can't and wont wait 5 years until he gets it, this is the year he has to prove he belongs...
Peace
T.Dawg
Having stability at the QB position should do wonders for a player like Robiskie....
Having a year under his belt, becoming accustomed to the speed of the NFL and going through the maturing process should equate to a better year for this young man...
On the other hand, he's gonna' have to bring his "A" game on every play to establish that he's a keeper in this league...
The Browns can't and wont wait 5 years until he gets it, this is the year he has to prove he belongs...
Peace
T.Dawg
agreed and good post.
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I think having vet QBs can only help accelerate BR's usefulness to us. The thing is we NEED him to step up, we should not be accepting anything less, an improvement isn't good enough, it really does need to be a standout year. I think the kid has it, he showed in a few late games last year that he can be the man. He's going to get to where he needs to be a lot better this year and hopefully the ball will follow now we have an upgrade behind the OL!
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Receiver is a hard transition from college to pro's....it takes some just a bit longer.
We will get a better read on what type of player Robo is going to be now that he has a year under the belt.
The kid had had pro coaching since he was a kid and played at a top college program, and his measurables are good enough. It defies all logic to think he is going to be totally useless as a pro.
He may never be the best receiver in the league, or even this team, but I suspect he is going to be good enough to be a valuable member of the team for a good many years.
Had Heckert and Mangini thought we had a real problem, we would have look at receiver much earlier then we did. I am sure Heck scouted the kid last year and had a good enough grade on the kid he isn't concerned at this point.
We now have a grouping of young veterans at receiver. I doubt we are going to be totally inept at catching the ball if delivered in the catch range.
As a former baseball catcher, I know I was a better catcher when I had a control pitcher on the mound v a guy who threw it everywhere....and that goes beyond the obvious. When you are in a position where you have to be ready for anything and everything you are never really able to focus rather than just react when the occasional ball goes in to the dirt or is high and away...you just react to make the block or the stab.
Lets see how these guys play when they have a qb who puts the ball in the catch zone, in stride and understands how to protect receivers going over the middle by putting the ball a little lower so the receiver is in a protected state and can catch it more in to the body rather than totally exposed for a rib hit.
Good receivers over the middle usually have a good qb who understands how to keep his receivers from getting clobbered play after play.
I don't care who you are....if your QB keeps leading you in to head on collisions with outstretched arms time after time, you are going to stop reaching quite as far.....just the way it is.
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ballpeen,
You are right on the money. The QB change will move our young receiver's development light years ahead of what they had last year. It's a team game & part of EVERY players job is to increase their team's & teammate's chance of success by their own execution.
Mike
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yes.
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lol i hoped it was coincidence Gip...it does appear to be below the fold (part of sig).
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He has no choice this year but to be a monster. If he don't make it this year look for us taking a WR with the 17th pick in next years draft.
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He has no choice this year but to be a monster. If he don't make it this year look for us taking a WR with the 17th pick in next years draft.
He has no choice this year but to be a monster. If he don't make it this year look for us taking a WR with the 17th pick in next years draft.
With the 32nd pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select LeBron James, St. Vincent St. Mary's High School.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...ver_bria_1.html
BEREA, Ohio — Without being asked, Browns coach Eric Mangini singled out Brian Robiskie on Thursday as having "an outstanding" off-season camp.
This might not be the career watershed Robiskie envisioned when he was drafted in the second round a year ago to play for the team he once served as a ball boy while his father coached receivers.
But the unsolicited kudos beat most anything the coach had to say about Robiskie as a rookie. Comments like "he needs to find his role on special teams" and "he needs to have a better sense of how to run routes" were more the norm.
To his credit, Robiskie never publicly questioned why he was made inactive for four of the first 15 games of his first season. (He missed the last game with an ankle injury.)
After leaving Ohio State heralded as the most polished wide receiver in the 2009 draft, Robiskie concluded his rookie NFL season with seven receptions. Nobody saw that coming.
"Last year for me involved a lot of learning," Robiskie said Thursday after a 90-minute practice in sweltering conditions similar to training camp in August.
"But I think that was very beneficial to me to apply it to this year.
"I don't think there was a point for me where I was sitting and questioning myself for what I was doing. The biggest thing was, what can I do to get better? Regardless of what kind of season I had, I was going to take the same approach in the off-season."
There remains no consensus answer to the mystery of Robiskie's rookie year.
There were conspiracy theories -- that Mangini took offense to Robiskie cutting local promotional deals before he played a regular-season game; that Mangini suspected Robiskie or his father were sources for a story blasting Mangini for taking rookies on a 10-hour bus trip to work the coach's charity clinic in Hartford, Conn.; that Robiskie was purposely held out of playing to avoid hitting a contract incentive that would escalate his salary. When these theories were presented, one league source said simply, "Maybe he's just not good enough."
Mangini's contention all along has been that young players develop at different paces.
"There is no one formula for these guys," Mangini said Thursday. "You try a lot of different things to get them to contribute as quickly as possible. It sometimes hits at different spots.
"We've talked about the receiver [Mike Sims-Walker] when we played Jacksonville last year. The first two seasons he had 16 catches, and then 70-plus in his third year. So it started to hit. You don't know. I've seen it with a lot of players, pretty much every team I've been with. You try to get that magical combination of installs, meetings, the way to handle it."
Robiskie's attitude about his second season is upbeat. He doesn't dwell on the previous one.
"I don't know what it was. But for me, last year was last year," he said. "I'm excited about this year. I'm excited about the finish we had, about the things we were doing. And I'm excited about my opportunity to help us win games this season."
He said when he examined his first season, he decided he needed to "make everything better -- running routes, catching balls, run blocking. Everything receivers do. I think having a year under my belt really helps."
The Browns have completed six of their 16 formal off-season team practices, which includes a mandatory minicamp June 10-12. Robiskie said he started working out in informal throwing sessions with receivers Mohamed Massaquoi and Chansi Stuckey as soon as new quarterbacks Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace joined the team in March.
He agrees with comments Massaquoi previously made, that having an established veteran quarterback like Delhomme as the starter will help the receivers immensely.
"Obviously, we're trying to develop a rapport with him," Robiskie said. "I think between watching film with him and coming out to practice, and listening to our coaches, we're trying to build a chemistry. I think that's definitely one of the most important things with a quarterback and the receivers, the chemistry between them."
Something must be clicking because Mangini, not one to heap praise on young players, said, "He's running good routes and has made some big plays pretty much every day."
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--WR Brian Robiskie, last year's second-round draft pick from Ohio State is looking like a different player from a year ago when he caught only seven passes.
Robiskie has been smooth and comfortable running routes in OTAs. He is catching the ball consistently. Coach Eric Mangini is hopeful Robiskie will make a big jump in his second year.
This is just one of a number of positive reports I've read or heard in regards to BR. The common theme about him is that he looks more crisp and sharp than he did around this time last year and he's catching the ball more consistently to.
Ofcourse he has to be consistent and do this in the regular season, but he's off to a much better start than he was last season. that has to count for something.
This is just one of a number of positive reports I've read or heard in regards to BR. The common theme about him is that he looks more crisp and sharp than he did around this time last year and he's catching the ball more consistently to.
Ofcourse he has to be consistent and do this in the regular season, but he's off to a much better start than he was last season. that has to count for something.
We had positiive reports about Green, Brown, Quinn, and last year St. Clair; I'll wait for the actual gameplay against opponents before beginning to even hope. The Cleveland Browns off-season has been just wait til you see what we've got now for over a decade, and has pretty consistently failed to impress. No expectation for a break out year until the pressures been overcome!
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This is just one of a number of positive reports I've read or heard in regards to BR. The common theme about him is that he looks more crisp and sharp than he did around this time last year and he's catching the ball more consistently to.
Ofcourse he has to be consistent and do this in the regular season, but he's off to a much better start than he was last season. that has to count for something.
We had positiive reports about Green, Brown, Quinn, and last year St. Clair; I'll wait for the actual gameplay against opponents before beginning to even hope. The Cleveland Browns off-season has been just wait til you see what we've got now for over a decade, and has pretty consistently failed to impress. No expectation for a break out year until the pressures been overcome!
We had positiive reports about Green, Brown, Quinn, and last year St. Clair; I'll wait for the actual gameplay against opponents before beginning to even hope. The Cleveland Browns off-season has been just wait til you see what we've got now for over a decade, and has pretty consistently failed to impress. No expectation for a break out year until the pressures been overcome!
did you even read my post that you quoted? did you miss this part?
Ofcourse he has to be consistent and do this in the regular season, but he's off to a much better start than he was last season. that has to count for something.
and i've always read how sloppy and undisciplined the browns have looked in the past during mini-camp, otas and training camp and they played like it in the regular season. the reason for optimism is that the players we're talking about look alot better and more disciplined than the browns in the past. we know it's the otas, but what they do in the off-season training activities has a direct effect on what they do in the regular season. no one is saying this means the browns will automatically be successful in the regular season, we're just saying that it's good to hear the browns are off to a good start (unlike past seasons).
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