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  • could anyone blame rogers for quitting? when the defense plays well and gives their all (one of the few times they actually do so this season) and the offense scores six points and gives a team the game-winning touchdown, why should he be anything but furious?

    at least we'll have better draft position with him taking the last four games.

    i don't think we'll do any irreparable damage by letting rac coach the last four games. bringing in a new coach is a new beginning, especially if we hire a new GM to go along with him.

    lewis is done. he's horrible. can't gain yards for shit. looks like shaun alexander. enough with him, already.

    i don't know if chud is really that bad; i just think the offense isn't executing what he calls. it's hard to tell when you've got lewis not following blockers how the run game should look.

    as for a QB, we're screwed. if dorsey goes down, we'd be better off signing someone who wasn't drafted than any of the rejects that are out there right now. tim rattay? tim hasslebeck? shoot me.

    C P 2 Replies

  • Chud is to conservative and after missing first downs because he is to conservative he panics and trys to air it out he sucks and any coaching staff that leaves players on the field that shouldnt be there and are hurting the team suck as well this crew lacks the get it done or get off the field mentality it takes to win or build a solid team..

    I know a lot of you guys like chud because he is a buckeye but he still sucks...the players dont like what he is calling either..

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
  • J JewDago

    could anyone blame rogers for quitting? when the defense plays well and gives their all (one of the few times they actually do so this season) and the offense scores six points and gives a team the game-winning touchdown, why should he be anything but furious?

    at least we'll have better draft position with him taking the last four games.

    i don't think we'll do any irreparable damage by letting rac coach the last four games. bringing in a new coach is a new beginning, especially if we hire a new GM to go along with him.

    lewis is done. he's horrible. can't gain yards for shit. looks like shaun alexander. enough with him, already.

    i don't know if chud is really that bad; i just think the offense isn't executing what he calls. it's hard to tell when you've got lewis not following blockers how the run game should look.

    as for a QB, we're screwed. if dorsey goes down, we'd be better off signing someone who wasn't drafted than any of the rejects that are out there right now. tim rattay? tim hasslebeck? shoot me.

    @jewdago said:

    i don't know if chud is really that bad; i just think the offense isn't executing what he calls. it's hard to tell when you've got lewis not following blockers how the run game should look.

    Just a point of clarification.....................Chud is responsible for designing offensive schemes - they are all of that - and also is responsible for overseeing the coaching and development of players.

    He doesn't live in a vacuum. He is THE GUY on offense.

    PS He doesn't impress me.

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
  • P pl4tinum

    To address your points directly since they were all good ones:

    1. Harrison needs to start and get 20 touches a game. That would almost guarantee a couple of TDs per game for our offense. Needless to say, Romeo is against scoring and so is Chud. F--king idiots all the way around, but we knew that.

    2. Lewis never follows the fullback. Every time I see him running behind the fullback I say "Oh wow look he's running behind the fullback" and sure enough he will fork away from the FB right into a wall about 2-3 yards past the line of scrimmage instead of keeping on going behind him. He is obviously too proud to get yardage with someone's help (sigh).

    3. I'd rather see Cribbs at QB than Dorsey at this point. Dorsey's career numbers are putrid. I guess we can always pray but it's kind of hopeless at this point. At least maybe they'll call some screen plays to Harrison for him.

    5. Hey I'm sure the only reason he's been this calm this long is because Detroit still hasn't won a game, lol. Maybe he can sit on Romeo and suffocate him accidentally or something.

    @pl4tinum said:

    3. I'd rather see Cribbs at QB than Dorsey at this point. Dorsey's career numbers are putrid. I guess we can always pray but it's kind of hopeless at this point. At least maybe they'll call some screen plays to Harrison for him.

    If Cribbs were in at QB he would likely have more interceptions than completions. Anybody who thinks Cribbs can play QB in the NFL is, like Anderson said, on crack.

    Might as well have Donte Stallworth play QB.

  • J JewDago

    could anyone blame rogers for quitting? when the defense plays well and gives their all (one of the few times they actually do so this season) and the offense scores six points and gives a team the game-winning touchdown, why should he be anything but furious?

    at least we'll have better draft position with him taking the last four games.

    i don't think we'll do any irreparable damage by letting rac coach the last four games. bringing in a new coach is a new beginning, especially if we hire a new GM to go along with him.

    lewis is done. he's horrible. can't gain yards for shit. looks like shaun alexander. enough with him, already.

    i don't know if chud is really that bad; i just think the offense isn't executing what he calls. it's hard to tell when you've got lewis not following blockers how the run game should look.

    as for a QB, we're screwed. if dorsey goes down, we'd be better off signing someone who wasn't drafted than any of the rejects that are out there right now. tim rattay? tim hasslebeck? shoot me.

    @jewdago said:

    lewis is done. he's horrible. can't gain yards for shit. looks like shaun alexander. enough with him, already.

    I agree with you dude, he is totally killing us.

    Look at all these teams having success with running backs who can stretch the field.

    Name me one freakin runningback who is a number 1 RB who is a big lug and having a great season this year.

    Don't say Lendale White, he's in a RBBC headed by a rookie speed demon RB.

    All of the successful runningbacks are ones that can make people miss, not ones that can plow them over. 10 years of plowing has reduced Jamal to a slug.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8

  • @ chicopee: while chud designs the schemes, he's not the guy running the ball. if lewis runs like shit and doesn't go where he's supposed to, chud can't control that.

    he may, however, be the guy keeping lewis in the game, and if he is, he sucks.

  • Which group of you guys ripped me a new a-hole about 6 weeks ago when I called out Jamal Lewis as being done?

    After seeing some of the nice holes we opened up for him yesterday or the good lead blocks Vickers threw for nothing, I'm completely convinced that Lewis is washed-up. A decent NFL back would have put up 120 yesterday. Lewis in his heyday would have put up 160.

  • Lewis isn't washed up, but he has lost a few steps. He's still a powerful runner, and a leader on the offense.

    Beanie Wells would be a nice complement to him, with his power AND excellent speed... for next year.

  • C calfoxwc

    Lewis isn't washed up, but he has lost a few steps. He's still a powerful runner, and a leader on the offense.

    Beanie Wells would be a nice complement to him, with his power AND excellent speed... for next year.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Beanie Wells would be a nice complement to him, with his power AND excellent speed... for next year.

    Beanie gets nicked up too often. I question his durability. Love the kid, but I hate injuries.

  • i pretty much agree with inspecta. lewis could still help us if he weren't playing all the time, but it's having him out there every down that's killing us more than having him on the team.

    as we've all said many times, it's just that our coaches don't want to be smart and use a RBBC like successful NFL teams do.

  • I agree with every sentiment on this board...

    Play calling is to conservative..

    Jamal is running like he is running into retirement. Running into walls of flesh instead of looking for holes.. Reminds me of that other running back. William Green... Never hit the line hard at all, and never seem to be the kind of back that could improvise...

    Which we have seen Harrison do.

    Harrison doesn't get enough time, but when he does, he get's yardage... Why is Jamal still on the field.

    Dorsey might be ok. Anyone remember Steve Young.

    Get the ball in Cribbs hands more...

  • @ brownskidd: dorsey already has some starts under his belt. granted, they were for a putrid san francisco squad, but he just doesn't have the arm strength to make it in the NFL unless he's in a west coast offense, which we don't run.

  • J JewDago

    @ brownskidd: dorsey already has some starts under his belt. granted, they were for a putrid san francisco squad, but he just doesn't have the arm strength to make it in the NFL unless he's in a west coast offense, which we don't run.

    @jewdago said:

    @ brownskidd: dorsey already has some starts under his belt. granted, they were for a putrid san francisco squad, but he just doesn't have the arm strength to make it in the NFL unless he's in a west coast offense, which we don't run.

    I never got to see him play for Frisco... And you are right, he's not a real big guy. But neither was another QB that I know of... Kosar..

  • kosar had always been brilliant, though. dorsey was a game manager in college. kosar's mind was what made him great. dorsey doesn't have that.

  • Fact is Dorsey isn't going to be any worse then Anderson was Sunday. It will be the same game plan. Run, run, run, and short dump offs.

    What would be smart is to incorporate Cribbs into a couple of sets with a limited number of plays, not just have him take the snap and run. He can handoff just as well as Dorsey can, plus he could keep it or throw it.

    Can't do worse then no TDs in last 8 qtrs.

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