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  • Btw, good shit Thaak.

    I just hope I can find this thread six months from now when I wanna call someone out on a Cribbs comparison.

  • I watched the same show and JC did get an honorable mention, but this show was recorded before the start of last year....if they remake the show there is no doubt that JC would be on top of the list

  • I watched the same show and JC did get an honorable mention, but this show was recorded before the start of last year....if they remake the show there is no doubt that JC would be on top of the list

    @dawgpoundpitt said:

    I watched the same show and JC did get an honorable mention, but this show was recorded before the start of last year....if they remake the show there is no doubt that JC would be on top of the list

    Yes, but even without last years stats, Cribbs still ends up in the middle of the pack. His average stays about the same, and his TDs drop by 3 total. So instead of being #2 on the list, he would be about #7. He's also been in the league 1 more year than Hester, and last year Hester didn't really do PR's anymore.

  • @dawgpoundpitt said:

    I watched the same show and JC did get an honorable mention, but this show was recorded before the start of last year....if they remake the show there is no doubt that JC would be on top of the list

    Yes, but even without last years stats, Cribbs still ends up in the middle of the pack. His average stays about the same, and his TDs drop by 3 total. So instead of being #2 on the list, he would be about #7. He's also been in the league 1 more year than Hester, and last year Hester didn't really do PR's anymore.

    @thaak said:

    Yes, but even without last years stats, Cribbs still ends up in the middle of the pack. His average stays about the same, and his TDs drop by 3 total. So instead of being #2 on the list, he would be about #7. He's also been in the league 1 more year than Hester, and last year Hester didn't really do PR's anymore.

    Just to prove my point, I redid the chart figuring Josh Cribbs without 2009.

    This is the final order

    Gale Sayers 48

    Brian Mitchell 43.5

    Mel Gray 42.5

    Dante Hall 41.5

    Devin Hester 37

    Rick Upchurch 36.5

    Josh Cribbs 34.5

    Desmond Howard 31.5

    Billy Johnson 29

    Eric Metcalf 27

    Deion Sanders 25

    He still comes in 7th. Of course that goes to show what a phenomenal year he had in 2009 (4 return TDS).

  • I forgot to refigure Hester without 2009 stats, but when I took a look at them... he got no TDs in 2009, and his averages were about the same. So it wouldn't have affected anything.

  • I just redid my chart figuring TDs/KR, TDs/PR, and TDs/Total Returns.

    TD's/KR

    Gale Sayers 11

    Devin Hester 10

    Josh Cribbs 9

    Deion Sanders 8

    Billy Johnson 7

    Mel Gray 6

    Dante Hall 5

    Eric Metcalf 4

    Brian Mitchell 3

    Desmond Howard 1.5

    Rick Upchurch 1.5

    TDs/PR

    Gale Sayers 11

    Devin Hester 10

    Desmond Howard 9

    Rick Upchurch 8

    Eric Metcalf 7

    Deion Sanders 6

    Dante Hall 5

    Billy Johnson 4

    Brian Mitchell 3

    Josh Cribbs 2

    Mel Gray 1

    TDs/Total Returns

    Gale Sayers 11

    Devin Hester 10

    Josh Cribbs 9

    Deion Sanders 8

    Rick Upchurch 7

    Billy Johnson 6

    Eric Metcalf 5

    Dante Hall 4

    Mel Gray 3

    Desmond Howard 2

    Brian Mitchell 1

    The final total is inclusive of my last figure, the above just adds to it.

    1 - Gale Sayers 79

    2 - Devin Hester 66.5

    3 - Josh Cribbs 65.5

    4 - Dante Hall 54.5

    5 - Rick Upchurch 52

    t6 - Mel Gray 49.5

    t6 - Brian Mitchell 49.5

    8 - Deion Sanders 46.5

    9 - Billy Johnson 45

    t10 - Eric Metcalf 43

    t10 - Desmond Howard 43

    In comparison, without TD's/Return ratios

    1 - Gale Sayers 46

    2 - Josh Cribbs 45.5

    3 - Brian Mitchell 42.5

    4 - Dante Hall 40.5

    5 - Mel Gray 39.5

    6 - Devin Hester 37

    7 - Rick Upchurch 35.5

    8 - Desmond Howard 30.5

    9 - Billy Johnson 28

    10 - Eric Metcalf 27

    11 - Deion Sanders 24

    What this shows, is that Sayers and Hester were lightening in a bottle. Deion was to some extent as well. Cribbs was last year, otherwise he may not have been last on this list without his 2009 numbers. Brian Mitchell is only on the list because he played for 14 years.

    If I only consider the ratios, the rankings look like:

    Gale Sayers 33

    Devin Hester 30

    Deion Sanders 22

    Josh Cribbs 20

    Billy Johnson 17

    Rick Upchurch 16.5

    Eric Metcalf 16

    Dante Hall 14

    Desmond Howard 12.5

    Mel Gray 10

    Brian Mitchell 7