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  • Thaak ThaakT
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    ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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    Looks like the #8 overall signed. So now Haden should be very soon.

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    • ThaakT Thaak

      Looks like the #8 overall signed. So now Haden should be very soon.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      @thaak said:

      Looks like the #8 overall signed. So now Haden should be very soon.

      If the "slotting process" works, yes, Haden should have a guide to go on. He would get a bit more than #8.

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        S samoth wrote on last edited by
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        Actually he will be a LOT more than #8, because of what the Raiders paid DHB at #7 last year.

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          Actually he will be a LOT more than #8, because of what the Raiders paid DHB at #7 last year.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @samoth said:

          Actually he will be a LOT more than #8, because of what the Raiders paid DHB at #7 last year.

          Well, that's a theory. Suppose the #6 pick signs in the next day or so. Haden would naturally have to be slotted between 6 and 8, even if it is for less than what the Raiders overpaid last year. Also, an argument can be made that there is a difference between a WR and a DB. Haden's agent probably wouldn't want to hear that argument, but it CAN be made.

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            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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            I don't think they will look much at last years numbers as a real benchmark.

            Hadens agent is a new agent. I think the key here is he really wanted to see where #8 would be...the last thing you want is to sign your guy for less then the pick below you.

            Joe wants to get things going. Now that the floor has been set, I really don't think he is going to miss much time. I doubt he is out past Sunday.....so he misses a day or two tops...not bad.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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              If Haden really wants to get into camp asap, he will sign in the next couple of days. he doesn't have an excuse now.

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                jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5419596

                what to take out of that whole article in regards to Haden:

                "A league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that McClain signed a five-year deal worth $40 million that included $23 million guaranteed."

                I'm not going to speculate how big of a contract that gives Haden, but there's the benchmark of the guy behind him. I still think everyone is waiting for Bradford to sign and let the dominoes fall.

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                  C clebron wrote on last edited by
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                  it is ridiculous how much these guys make before ever taking a snap in the nfl

                  hadden isn't a sure thing

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                    If Haden really wants to get into camp asap, he will sign in the next couple of days. he doesn't have an excuse now.

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                    B Browns57 wrote on last edited by
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                    @halfsane said:

                    If Haden really wants to get into camp asap, he will sign in the next couple of days. he doesn't have an excuse now.

                    Haden doesn't need an excuse. Even though these guys make a ton of money why wouldn't they want to make the best deal possible? In the NFL NOTHING is guaranteed except for the guaranteed money. Staying healthy for even one down, being a superstar, not getting cut. Nothing in life and especially life in the NFL is for sure! So I think they should all do their due dilligence and get whatever they can now. I could be the first and the last paycheck they ever get from the NFL.

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                      it is ridiculous how much these guys make before ever taking a snap in the nfl

                      hadden isn't a sure thing

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                      slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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                      @clebron said:

                      it is ridiculous how much these guys make before ever taking a snap in the nfl

                      hadden isn't a sure thing

                      the concept of EARNING your salary in the NFL is a thing of the past....I have nothing against incentive laden contracts for the rookies but the guarenteed $$ that teams are having to kick down really rattles

                      my chain...The teams are being forced to negotiate on intangibles........The nature of the beast i suppose

                      i can merely hope that Haden is able to contribute in a reasonable amount of time in helping the Browns win some effing ballgames

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                        it is ridiculous how much these guys make before ever taking a snap in the nfl

                        hadden isn't a sure thing

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @clebron said:

                        it is ridiculous how much these guys make before ever taking a snap in the nfl

                        hadden isn't a sure thing

                        That is why in the next CBA there will be a rookie salary scale....shifting more money to proven veterans.

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                          C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                          according to OBR the Raiders gave McClain a 12.9% bump overall and a 19.8% increase in guaranteed money over last year's #8 pick, Eugene Monroe

                          1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                            Actually he will be a LOT more than #8, because of what the Raiders paid DHB at #7 last year.

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                            VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                            @samoth said:

                            Actually he will be a LOT more than #8, because of what the Raiders paid DHB at #7 last year.

                            And why exactly would a WR's contract have any bearing on a corner back in a completely different draft class? His contract will be based on the CB contracts given over the last few years. His draft position certainly plays a factor but a ridiculous WR contract from Al Davis sure as hell isn't one them.

                            AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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                              @samoth said:

                              Actually he will be a LOT more than #8, because of what the Raiders paid DHB at #7 last year.

                              And why exactly would a WR's contract have any bearing on a corner back in a completely different draft class? His contract will be based on the CB contracts given over the last few years. His draft position certainly plays a factor but a ridiculous WR contract from Al Davis sure as hell isn't one them.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              Homotron said:

                              And why exactly would a WR's contract have any bearing on a corner back in a completely different draft class? His contract will be based on the CB contracts given over the last few years. His draft position certainly plays a factor but a ridiculous WR contract from Al Davis sure as hell isn't one them.

                              The reason it might have a bearing is because his agent will argue that it should have a bearing and that the #7 pick in the 2010 draft should get a bump over the #7 pick in the 2009 draft, regardless of what position he plays.

                              I agree with the concept that a WR and a CBs contracts should not bear on each other, and that a ridiculous Al Davis contract shouldn't bear on any other contract, but the fact of the matter is, they will...if it means the agent can argue for more money.

                              The Raiders signed McClain 1 slot behind Haden. Perhaps in some circles that contract may also be viewed as another absurdly high Al Davis contract, but it sure as hell will affect Haden's deal.

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                                ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                Now Trent Williams, the #4 overall, just signed.

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                                  halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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                                  I think it's going to happen soon.

                                  Hadens twitter said he was boarding a plane to Cleveland yesterday!

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                                    ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                    Eric Berry and Anthony Davis (and several other higher Draft picks) just signed.

                                    Haden has to fall today or tomorrow now. If not, not a smart move.

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                                      Eric Berry and Anthony Davis (and several other higher Draft picks) just signed.

                                      Haden has to fall today or tomorrow now. If not, not a smart move.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @thaak said:

                                      Eric Berry and Anthony Davis (and several other higher Draft picks) just signed.

                                      Haden has to fall today or tomorrow now. If not, not a smart move.

                                      With those guys around where he was drafted I would say the "slotting" of his compensation package should be fairly easy now.

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                                        @thaak said:

                                        Eric Berry and Anthony Davis (and several other higher Draft picks) just signed.

                                        Haden has to fall today or tomorrow now. If not, not a smart move.

                                        With those guys around where he was drafted I would say the "slotting" of his compensation package should be fairly easy now.

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                                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        With those guys around where he was drafted I would say the "slotting" of his compensation package should be fairly easy now.

                                        I agree.

                                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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