WildDawg!
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As a Seahawk fan I would like to give you guys a little heads up on Seneca Wallace. He is fast and he is
athletic and he is a QB, but he will not be successful for you in a WildDawg formation. The WildDawg requires
that the guy lined up at QB be a threat to take off running as one of the possible options. Anyone that
has watched tape of Seneca over the last few years knows he is NOT going to run. Forwards anyways.
Lining him up as a RB would be pretty funny, but a direct snap to him is the same as an awkward shotgun
snap. He's not going to run. Lining him up at WR is a way to get a completion because he can catch a
football, but you'd be lucky get more than two yards before he steps out of bounds. You see, Seneca
pictures himself as a drop back passer. Unfortunately he is too short to see over his own offensive line,
so he takes huge drops at break neck speed and if his primary receiver is not open, he sprints to the
sidelines and runs out of bounds instead of throwing the ball away even though he is well out of the
pocket. The Browns might develop a decent WildDawg package. I've seen Cribs, I know he is a stud, but
Seneca will break your heart and he isn't going to fool any defensive coordinators. Also, I know Mangini
is your head coach, but Holmgren *hates* the WildDawg. If he has any say in it, you won't be running the
WildDawg at all. Good luck to the Browns and Holmgren this year. Kick the Steelers' a**.
They WILL Run the WildDawg ..Cribbs gives the Steelers FITS... Its the ONLY Way they can Play with Pittsburgh. Holmgren will get over it. NO Doubt about that. Holmgren will turn away... Eat another Double Cheese Burger and Turn back around and smile. Cribbs is a Beast.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
They WILL Run the WildDawg ..Cribbs gives the Steelers FITS... Its the ONLY Way they can Play with Pittsburgh. Holmgren will get over it. NO Doubt about that. Holmgren will turn away... Eat another Double Cheese Burger and Turn back around and smile. Cribbs is a Beast.Well, I don't know if it is the only way, But it helped somewhat in that game last year. That game was won by the Browns primarily by the defense. (6 points....8 sacks). What offensive production the Browns did have was due in a big part to Cribbs gaining 87 yards on only 8 carries, but without the defensive performance that offensive output of only scoring 13 points, surely, would not have been enough to win most games.
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Ya gotta love the software altering the verse to WildDawg each time ... we will have this a common term on ESPN by week #4, and the PD will mention it by the end of next week.
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Ya gotta love the software altering the verse to WildDawg each time ... we will have this a common term on ESPN by week #4, and the PD will mention it by the end of next week.
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As a Seahawk fan I would like to give you guys a little heads up on Seneca Wallace. He is fast and he is
athletic and he is a QB, but he will not be successful for you in a WildDawg formation. The WildDawg requires
that the guy lined up at QB be a threat to take off running as one of the possible options. Anyone that
has watched tape of Seneca over the last few years knows he is NOT going to run. Forwards anyways.
Lining him up as a RB would be pretty funny, but a direct snap to him is the same as an awkward shotgun
snap. He's not going to run. Lining him up at WR is a way to get a completion because he can catch a
football, but you'd be lucky get more than two yards before he steps out of bounds. You see, Seneca
pictures himself as a drop back passer. Unfortunately he is too short to see over his own offensive line,
so he takes huge drops at break neck speed and if his primary receiver is not open, he sprints to the
sidelines and runs out of bounds instead of throwing the ball away even though he is well out of the
pocket. The Browns might develop a decent WildDawg package. I've seen Cribs, I know he is a stud, but
Seneca will break your heart and he isn't going to fool any defensive coordinators. Also, I know Mangini
is your head coach, but Holmgren *hates* the WildDawg. If he has any say in it, you won't be running the
WildDawg at all. Good luck to the Browns and Holmgren this year. Kick the Steelers' a**.
I think you bring up some legitimate concerns about Wallace. Not having seen a lot of him, many of us thought that perhaps he was sort of a "Michael Vick Lite" type of QB....you know, the stereotypical "athletic" black QB. But, it seems that you are saying that perhaps he is more of a "Byron Leftwich Stout Ale"....that is far more of a drop back, cement overshoe type QB than we believe?
Is this a fair statement?
I think you bring up some legitimate concerns about Wallace. Not having seen a lot of him, many of us thought that perhaps he was sort of a "Michael Vick Lite" type of QB....you know, the stereotypical "athletic" black QB. But, it seems that you are saying that perhaps he is more of a "Byron Leftwich Stout Ale"....that is far more of a drop back, cement overshoe type QB than we believe?
Is this a fair statement?
i wouldnt compare wallace to byron, the slowest black man to EVER play the position. wallace has speed to burn and looks like he has that agility to make those quick changes in direction. i think what he's talking about is a typical fast athletic qb that was hounded by coaches for years to be a drop back style qb. once he sees J-Money jukin and spinnin outa the backfield he'll be following suit as well
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what i would love to see is senica in the shotgun, cribbs to his right, and vickers to his left, running a triple option where you let the LE/OLB come basically free, and pitch it either inside to vickers or outside to cribbs. could really slow down the pass rush from that side and help out that side of the line
As a Seahawk fan I would like to give you guys a little heads up on Seneca Wallace. He is fast and he is
athletic and he is a QB, but he will not be successful for you in a WildDawg formation. The WildDawg requires
that the guy lined up at QB be a threat to take off running as one of the possible options. Anyone that
has watched tape of Seneca over the last few years knows he is NOT going to run. Forwards anyways.
Lining him up as a RB would be pretty funny, but a direct snap to him is the same as an awkward shotgun
snap. He's not going to run. Lining him up at WR is a way to get a completion because he can catch a
football, but you'd be lucky get more than two yards before he steps out of bounds. You see, Seneca
pictures himself as a drop back passer. Unfortunately he is too short to see over his own offensive line,
so he takes huge drops at break neck speed and if his primary receiver is not open, he sprints to the
sidelines and runs out of bounds instead of throwing the ball away even though he is well out of the
pocket. The Browns might develop a decent WildDawg package. I've seen Cribs, I know he is a stud, but
Seneca will break your heart and he isn't going to fool any defensive coordinators. Also, I know Mangini
is your head coach, but Holmgren *hates* the WildDawg. If he has any say in it, you won't be running the
WildDawg at all. Good luck to the Browns and Holmgren this year. Kick the Steelers' a**.
As a Seahawk fan I would like to give you guys a little heads up on Seneca Wallace. He is fast and he is
athletic and he is a QB, but he will not be successful for you in a WildDawg formation. The WildDawg requires
that the guy lined up at QB be a threat to take off running as one of the possible options. Anyone that
has watched tape of Seneca over the last few years knows he is NOT going to run. Forwards anyways.
Lining him up as a RB would be pretty funny, but a direct snap to him is the same as an awkward shotgun
snap. He's not going to run. Lining him up at WR is a way to get a completion because he can catch a
football, but you'd be lucky get more than two yards before he steps out of bounds. You see, Seneca
pictures himself as a drop back passer. Unfortunately he is too short to see over his own offensive line,
so he takes huge drops at break neck speed and if his primary receiver is not open, he sprints to the
sidelines and runs out of bounds instead of throwing the ball away even though he is well out of the
pocket. The Browns might develop a decent WildDawg package. I've seen Cribs, I know he is a stud, but
Seneca will break your heart and he isn't going to fool any defensive coordinators. Also, I know Mangini
is your head coach, but Holmgren *hates* the WildDawg. If he has any say in it, you won't be running the
WildDawg at all. Good luck to the Browns and Holmgren this year. Kick the Steelers' a**.
How much of that is by design though? Holmgren talked about he didnt use Seneca in Wilddawg because he was afraid to get him hurt then would have no backup QB. Maybe he was being told to avoid contact?
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Zombo said:
The first time they say "Wild Dawg" offense on SportsCenter, CFFL gets an honorary trophy.Zombo
--we still award those, right?
I had better start getting some freaking royalty checks. Pay up ESPN/CBS/NFL
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this makes me extremely pumped!!!!
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everything about this seasons got me pumped!!!
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I think you bring up some legitimate concerns about Wallace. Not having seen a lot of him, many of us thought that perhaps he was sort of a "Michael Vick Lite" type of QB....you know, the stereotypical "athletic" black QB. But, it seems that you are saying that perhaps he is more of a "Byron Leftwich Stout Ale"....that is far more of a drop back, cement overshoe type QB than we believe?
Is this a fair statement?
i wouldnt compare wallace to byron, the slowest black man to EVER play the position. wallace has speed to burn and looks like he has that agility to make those quick changes in direction. i think what he's talking about is a typical fast athletic qb that was hounded by coaches for years to be a drop back style qb. once he sees J-Money jukin and spinnin outa the backfield he'll be following suit as well
i wouldnt compare wallace to byron, the slowest black man to EVER play the position. wallace has speed to burn and looks like he has that agility to make those quick changes in direction. i think what he's talking about is a typical fast athletic qb that was hounded by coaches for years to be a drop back style qb. once he sees J-Money jukin and spinnin outa the backfield he'll be following suit as well
Well, that is why I asked for clarification on what he meant.
(and who is J-Money? Cribbs?)
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Raven said:
I hope they try that Tamed Puppy offense against us. Should be good for a few lols.Let's put it this way: they, the Browns, have to try something to move the ball. Whether the vaunted (or is that just aged) Ravens D could stop it, who knows, but it might be a certainty that they might be able to stop the Browns regular offense if it looked anything like it did in the first 12 games of last year.
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i wouldnt compare wallace to byron, the slowest black man to EVER play the position. wallace has speed to burn and looks like he has that agility to make those quick changes in direction. i think what he's talking about is a typical fast athletic qb that was hounded by coaches for years to be a drop back style qb. once he sees J-Money jukin and spinnin outa the backfield he'll be following suit as well
Well, that is why I asked for clarification on what he meant.
(and who is J-Money? Cribbs?)
Well, that is why I asked for clarification on what he meant.
(and who is J-Money? Cribbs?)
and did i not try and clarify? out here in western canada they play a lot of seahawks games so ive seen a decent amount of him
and ya im talking about cribbs. Deon sanders started calling him "pay-the-man" at the end of last season, and since he got paid, and is the one bringing home the bacon for the browns, J-Money... pretty sure thats the last time ill call him that though
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Well, that is why I asked for clarification on what he meant.
(and who is J-Money? Cribbs?)
and did i not try and clarify? out here in western canada they play a lot of seahawks games so ive seen a decent amount of him
and ya im talking about cribbs. Deon sanders started calling him "pay-the-man" at the end of last season, and since he got paid, and is the one bringing home the bacon for the browns, J-Money... pretty sure thats the last time ill call him that though
hahaand did i not try and clarify? out here in western canada they play a lot of seahawks games so ive seen a decent amount of him
and ya im talking about cribbs. Deon sanders started calling him "pay-the-man" at the end of last season, and since he got paid, and is the one bringing home the bacon for the browns, J-Money... pretty sure thats the last time ill call him that though
hahaAnd I thank you for the clarification.
Though, I have never heard any Browns fan (or player) refer to Cribbs by that moniker. I thought that belonged exclusively to Michael Jordan.
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That old WidlDawg
By Tony Grossi, The Plain DealerJune 01, 2010, 11:27AM
Thomas Ondrey / The Plain Dealer
CLEVELAND — Doesn’t it appear the Browns are going out of their way to publicize the use of Josh Cribbs and Seneca Wallace in zany WildDawg plays?
It sounds more sensible that if they truly intended to incorporate the pair of all-purpose players into the mainstream of their offense, they would keep the plays under wraps and downplay them when asked.
Instead, coach Eric Mangini has talked them up enthusiastically and displayed the WildDawg in front of the media in organized team activities practices. He’s never that open about strategies.
My guess is that Mangini wants opponents to think the Browns can hurt them with the WildDawg just so that they devote a portion of their practice time preparing for a Cribbs-Wallace offense.
Mangini believes that attention will detract his opponents — if only for five minutes, or so — from preparing for what the Browns really intend to do. I would expect to see the WildDawg featured prominently in training camp and the preseason games. But when the real season starts, it will be mothballed and saved for only rare occasions.
Think about this: If Wallace is the No. 2 quarterback on game days, exposing him to a lot of WildDawg plays — especially with him catching passes — exposes him to the risk of injury. If a team’s No. 2 quarterback is injured in a game, it puts the team in a precarious position. The No. 3 QB then would be one bad hit to the No. 1 QB from entering.
According to the NFL third quarterback rule, if the No. 3 quarterback is inserted before the fourth quarter — even for a single play — the team’s first two quarterbacks cannot be used in the game at any position.
Now, Cribbs’ experience at QB lessens the risk if the starter needs a play or two on the sideline. Instead of bringing in the No. 3 quarterback, Cribbs could line up behind center.
Still, I imagine there is more hype than substance to the alleged claims of increased WildDawg — or Flash, or Cyclone — plays. Cribbs lined up at QB approximately 59 times last year. I can remember only a handful of plays of note — and one of them was an interception inside the 20 at Pittsburgh.
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In sports, especially football, players feed off of other players..
If you have a passive defense than more times than not the offense will be passive (and visa versa)
A lot of our new players seem to play with an attitude that will quickly spread to the other units of the team IF they are successful...
Since our rebirth we've had numerous players that ran their mouth but couldn't back their brag (Brian Cox kicked two of them to the curb)..
I like what I've seen and read so far.. I'm goin to camp next week with the grandson and will form my "official" position then..
Attitude beat the Steelers last year---that's what its gonna take this year...
Peace
T.Dawg
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Zombo said:
That ain't half bad. The Browns oughta start marketing it: the Wild Dawg offense with Cribbs and Wallace. Once we win a few games with it maybe it'll catch.I thought Cribbs was awesome in the WildDawg last year, adding Seneca just multiplies the variables defenses have to worry about.
Zombo
I'd go for Rabid Dawg
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Zombo said:
That ain't half bad. The Browns oughta start marketing it: the Wild Dawg offense with Cribbs and Wallace. Once we win a few games with it maybe it'll catch.I thought Cribbs was awesome in the WildDawg last year, adding Seneca just multiplies the variables defenses have to worry about.
Zombo
I'd go for Rabid Dawg
I'd go for Rabid Dawg
maybe that's what they call the team as a whole. you know, the rabid dawgs.
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Zombo said:
That ain't half bad. The Browns oughta start marketing it: the Wild Dawg offense with Cribbs and Wallace. Once we win a few games with it maybe it'll catch.I thought Cribbs was awesome in the WildDawg last year, adding Seneca just multiplies the variables defenses have to worry about.
Zombo
I'd go for Rabid Dawg
I'd go for Rabid Dawg
I like Rabid Dawg too!
It implies dangerous, unstable, and hungry !!
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In sports, especially football, players feed off of other players..
If you have a passive defense than more times than not the offense will be passive (and visa versa)
A lot of our new players seem to play with an attitude that will quickly spread to the other units of the team IF they are successful...
Since our rebirth we've had numerous players that ran their mouth but couldn't back their brag (Brian Cox kicked two of them to the curb)..
I like what I've seen and read so far.. I'm goin to camp next week with the grandson and will form my "official" position then..
Attitude beat the Steelers last year---that's what its gonna take this year...
Peace
T.Dawg
In sports, especially football, players feed off of other players..
If you have a passive defense than more times than not the offense will be passive (and visa versa)
A lot of our new players seem to play with an attitude that will quickly spread to the other units of the team IF they are successful...
Since our rebirth we've had numerous players that ran their mouth but couldn't back their brag (Brian Cox kicked two of them to the curb)..
I like what I've seen and read so far.. I'm goin to camp next week with the grandson and will form my "official" position then..
Attitude beat the Steelers last year---that's what its gonna take this year...
Peace
T.Dawg
last year mangini brought in a winning attitude and the demand for putting it all out there every play, now it seems we have the talent to move forward as well
its always said that the only thing that beats hard work is hard working talent, with the core that we have here and the atmosphere that mangini and co have created i think we finally have the start of both, and are moving in the right direction
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