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GM Tom Heckert Not Helping Fix Team's 0-3 Record

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  • 5 585Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Does it really surprise you that Heckert didn't go out and get a receiver??? Isn't that the ONE thing the eagles have been missing for 10 years (minus 1 year with TO) and was NEVER really addressed? (and yes I know Heckert was only with philly for about 6 of those years)

    Anyway, who knows what really goes on behind the scenes...

    On a quick side note.. I have been relatively impressed with Cribbs play at receiver. I bet this kid could play almost ANY position.. this kid is no joke!

    GO BROWNS

  • Does it really surprise you that Heckert didn't go out and get a receiver??? Isn't that the ONE thing the eagles have been missing for 10 years (minus 1 year with TO) and was NEVER really addressed? (and yes I know Heckert was only with philly for about 6 of those years)

    Anyway, who knows what really goes on behind the scenes...

    On a quick side note.. I have been relatively impressed with Cribbs play at receiver. I bet this kid could play almost ANY position.. this kid is no joke!

    GO BROWNS

    bigbaddawgjrB bigbaddawgjr wrote on last edited by
    #9

    @585dawg said:

    Does it really surprise you that Heckert didn't go out and get a receiver??? Isn't that the ONE thing the eagles have been missing for 10 years (minus 1 year with TO) and was NEVER really addressed? (and yes I know Heckert was only with philly for about 6 of those years)

    Anyway, who knows what really goes on behind the scenes...

    On a quick side note.. I have been relatively impressed with Cribbs play at receiver. I bet this kid could play almost ANY position.. this kid is no joke!

    GO BROWNS

    Doesn't philly have jackson and maclin. Those are a good 1 and 2 wr. So maybe heckert knows something obout wr.

  • J jasont44094 wrote on last edited by
    #10

    First off, Hardesty was a second round grade, he was listed in a lot of draft anyalist as a mid and late secound round. Secondly at this point last year we are better statistically in most categories than last year. In all 3 games we the lead going in or in the 4th quarter, but not able to finish. We don't have the players to do it nor would Heckert be able to get all the players this year. The coaching staff is going to stay through the year good or most likely bad, Holmgren is not going to fire them. I think he and Heckert have a group of personal in mind but weren't ready yet or could not leave their position this year.

  • 7 7moses7 wrote on last edited by
    #11

    Giving up three draft picks for a RB with surgicaly repaired knees was a terrible move.This team had and still has a lot of holes.They could of came away with 4 starters from original 11 picks,instead we got 1 starter-Ward.

  • Giving up three draft picks for a RB with surgicaly repaired knees was a terrible move.This team had and still has a lot of holes.They could of came away with 4 starters from original 11 picks,instead we got 1 starter-Ward.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @7moses7 said:

    Giving up three draft picks for a RB with surgicaly repaired knees was a terrible move.This team had and still has a lot of holes.They could of came away with 4 starters from original 11 picks,instead we got 1 starter-Ward.

    Actually it looks more like three starters you can add Hayden and Lauvao to the list. And hindsight is 20\20. Ward was an injury risk too- so how has that one turned out so far?

    Yeah, the top FA WRs were all dying to come and play for a rebuilding 5-11 team.

  • @7moses7 said:

    Giving up three draft picks for a RB with surgicaly repaired knees was a terrible move.This team had and still has a lot of holes.They could of came away with 4 starters from original 11 picks,instead we got 1 starter-Ward.

    Actually it looks more like three starters you can add Hayden and Lauvao to the list. And hindsight is 20\20. Ward was an injury risk too- so how has that one turned out so far?

    Yeah, the top FA WRs were all dying to come and play for a rebuilding 5-11 team.

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @hoorta said:

    Actually it looks more like three starters you can add Hayden and Lauvao to the list. And hindsight is 20\20. Ward was an injury risk too- so how has that one turned out so far?

    Yeah, the top FA WRs were all dying to come and play for a rebuilding 5-11 team.

    EXACTLY!!

    The draft is a crapshoot & I would say we came out of it pretty well. There will be "question marks" that hit & "can't misses" that don't....Remember Mandarich, Leaf, Leinhart?

    As far as the WR, hoorta said it perfectly. Most often, these guys would take less than what we would offer for a legitimate shot at a Super Bowl ring.

    I just don't understand some folks continual negativity. Try looking at what Heckert & others HAVE done!

    Mike

  • How many here think that Heckert should draft a QB with the next draft in the first round ? It is touted as a special class for QB. But our need seems to be a no 1 WR.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @brownindian said:

    How many here think that Heckert should draft a QB with the next draft in the first round ? It is touted as a special class for QB. But our need seems to be a no 1 WR.

    Well, IF a guy like Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallet are truly deemed to be Top of the Draft Sure Fire Franchise QBs, then perhaps drafting a QB early in the first round (assuming the Browns indeed continue to lose at the rate they have been going) may be in order.

    Luck seems like he may be the real deal. He had the pedigree....his daddy was an NFL QB. He has the intelligence....Stanford is one of the Top 10 academic institutions in the nation. He has the bazooka arm....according to all scouting reports. He had the size....about 6'4 or 6'5 and 240 pounds. Does he have the Chutzpah. That, as Hamlet said, is the question!

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Sporting News article just a couple of days ago on Top draft prospects.

    I believe I caught it saying that Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect this writer/scout has seen in 10 years. That would make him perhaps the best prospect to come out since, say, Payton Manning?:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-...p-of-mock-draft

    I would think however that the team from Buffalo would ultimately get the first crack at him or anyone else.

  • Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallet, it is still early but I would like to see how they finish out their seasons and see who scores the highest in the wonderlic.

  • Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallet, it is still early but I would like to see how they finish out their seasons and see who scores the highest in the wonderlic.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @mr.-t said:

    Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallet, it is still early but I would like to see how they finish out their seasons and see who scores the highest in the wonderlic.

    I would wager on the Stanford guy if you were taking odds. Here is why:

    Stanford U.S.News and World Report ranking: #5 (behind only Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Yale)

    Arkansas U.S. News and World Report rank: #132

    Stanford acceptance rate: 8% of applicants.

    Arkansas acceptance rate: 56% of applicants

    Stanford student avg. HS GPA: 3.9

    Arkansas student avg. HS GPA: 3.5

    Stanford acceptee avg. SAT score: 1440

    Arkansas acceptee avg. SAT score: 1140

    Stanford acceptee avg ACT score: 32

    Arkansas acceptee avg. ACT score: 25

    For what this is worth.

  • @brownindian said:

    How many here think that Heckert should draft a QB with the next draft in the first round ? It is touted as a special class for QB. But our need seems to be a no 1 WR.

    Well, IF a guy like Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallet are truly deemed to be Top of the Draft Sure Fire Franchise QBs, then perhaps drafting a QB early in the first round (assuming the Browns indeed continue to lose at the rate they have been going) may be in order.

    Luck seems like he may be the real deal. He had the pedigree....his daddy was an NFL QB. He has the intelligence....Stanford is one of the Top 10 academic institutions in the nation. He has the bazooka arm....according to all scouting reports. He had the size....about 6'4 or 6'5 and 240 pounds. Does he have the Chutzpah. That, as Hamlet said, is the question!

    BrownB499B BrownB499 wrote on last edited by BrownB499
    #18

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, IF a guy like Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallet are truly deemed to be Top of the Draft Sure Fire Franchise QBs, then perhaps drafting a QB early in the first round (assuming the Browns indeed continue to lose at the rate they have been going) may be in order.

    Luck seems like he may be the real deal. He had the pedigree....his daddy was an NFL QB. He has the intelligence....Stanford is one of the Top 10 academic institutions in the nation. He has the bazooka arm....according to all scouting reports. He had the size....about 6'4 or 6'5 and 240 pounds. Does he have the Chutzpah. That, as Hamlet said, is the question!

    His coach is a guy they nicked name "Captain Comeback" from what I've seen,some of that has begun to rub off

    No thanks to Ryan Mallet....Derek Anderson part II...right down to the size 17s