Mel Kiper on the Super Bowl
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Tyler (Hilton, New York): Who do you think is the best team in the NFL right now? And who do you think will win the super bowl?
SportsNation Mel Kiper: (1:44 PM ET ) That's the million dollar question!
SportsNation Mel Kiper: (1:49 PM ET ) Just because they find ways to win, I say the Steelers. In the NFL, you have to be able to win close games and the Steelers have shown that they can finish games. The Colts are getting it together and they aren't far behind. In the NFC, the Giants are the most talented but I don't think they can overcome the Burress loss. It's not easy to put them back in the Super Bowl but it can happen. Carolina is coming up and is a threat. They are the two best teams in the NFC and they play each other this Sunday and it should be a great game.
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mz the pussy, I pretty much agree with Kiper..........although I would put Dallas and Tenn in the mix as well. USA Today ranks the Steelers number one and have the others tied for second including Tennessee and not including Indy whom they have behind the other five. I think Tenn will fail in the playoffs and the Giants as well.
So, I say Steelers or Indy in the AFC vs Carolina or Dallas in the NFC
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mz the pussy, I pretty much agree with Kiper..........although I would put Dallas and Tenn in the mix as well. USA Today ranks the Steelers number one and have the others tied for second including Tennessee and not including Indy whom they have behind the other five. I think Tenn will fail in the playoffs and the Giants as well.
So, I say Steelers or Indy in the AFC vs Carolina or Dallas in the NFC
mz the pussy, I pretty much agree with Kiper..........although I would put Dallas and Tenn in the mix as well. USA Today ranks the Steelers number one and have the others tied for second including Tennessee and not including Indy whom they have behind the other five. I think Tenn will fail in the playoffs and the Giants as well.
So, I say Steelers or Indy in the AFC vs Carolina or Dallas in the NFC
Dallas may not even make it...they play Baltimore (only recent losses to Steelers and Giants, both defensive teams), and then they play @Philadelphia (on a 3 game winning streak).
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I obviously hate to agree with Kiper on this one, but I too see the Steelers as the class of the AFC right now.
BAL, sad to say, is probably the biggest threat to PIT right now, if they make the playoffs (great time to be a Browns fan...). TEN is banged up (Vanden Bosch and Haynesworth out until the playoffs and who knows if they'll be 100% when it starts), IND is banged up (Sanders and Addai are battling injuries), The contenders in the AFCE (NE, NYJ, MIA) are all decent teams but all have major flaws, and the AFCW stinks.
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@ rich: USA Today? it's the worst, most dumbed down newspaper on the planet. believing them is like thinking a michael moore documentary is factually accurate or that bush actually won florida in 2000 and ohio in 2004.
@ rich: USA Today? it's the worst, most dumbed down newspaper on the planet. believing them is like thinking a michael moore documentary is factually accurate or that bush actually won florida in 2000 and ohio in 2004.
I didn't say I believed USA, I just provided their ranking. I made my own position clear..........once again I think either the Steelers or Indy will emege from the AFC and Carolina or Dallas from the NFC. Now if Dallas does not make the playoffs I would Carolina is odds on favorite.
And I do agree with mz the pussy and others about Bmore being the outside chance because of a great D. I think however, it will be real hard for a rookie QB to take them to the house
USA is not dumbed down and Michael Moore is right on most of the time..........so you must be tuned into dumbed down politics
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Don't forget about Tampa Bay in the NFC....I know they've lost 2 straight, but Gruden is probably the 2nd best coach in the NFL (behind our buddy BB in NE).
AFC-wise, if Pitt gets home field, they're going to the Superbowl. I still think Indy & NE are dangerous, and wouldn't be shocked to see Tenn lose it's first game at home.
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Don't forget about Tampa Bay in the NFC....I know they've lost 2 straight, but Gruden is probably the 2nd best coach in the NFL (behind our buddy BB in NE).
AFC-wise, if Pitt gets home field, they're going to the Superbowl. I still think Indy & NE are dangerous, and wouldn't be shocked to see Tenn lose it's first game at home.
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@inspecta said:
Been around the block 500 times............Moore gets it more than nearly all....................of course we can all still claim the world is flat which was nearly uninanimous in 1490 ........and Masters would fit right in with 1490............where do you fit.........NOW or 1490?
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Sorry, I have viewed some of his movies and he is usually more factual than our newspapers and TV and other news sites...........
Like I said I been there in the arena fighting the bulls have you????????????
anyway......thanks for the message thanking me for the game
while yu piss on my informed view about informed Moore's movies and viewpoint
Sumtimes............the dirt is indeed in the homeland and our great nation has been very dirty for some time now'
TIME TO GET BACK TO OUR ROOTS WAVING THE FLAG OF FREEDOM AND DEFENDING IT>>>>>>>>>INSTEAD OF ABUSING IT
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@inspecta said:
he'd make a helluva marketing executive though.Nah. The ad bidness, believe it or not, upholds standards.
mz. said:
Nah. The ad bidness, believe it or not, upholds standards.It's still about selling a product or agenda (ala the show Mad Men). Michael Moore is exactly that. There is truth to his movies, but there are also missing facts, missing quotes from his interviews, etc. Editing can always make someones quotes look a certain way. He has as much truthyness to him as Steven Colbert.
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You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
but you know everything about losing Masters keep doing your thing
But then again when his stuff is proven correct and my view as well........you will discount that as well and go on to another factless loser opinion................like how the economy is now strong
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
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mz. said:
Nah. The ad bidness, believe it or not, upholds standards.It's still about selling a product or agenda (ala the show Mad Men). Michael Moore is exactly that. There is truth to his movies, but there are also missing facts, missing quotes from his interviews, etc. Editing can always make someones quotes look a certain way. He has as much truthyness to him as Steven Colbert.
Masters said:
It's still about selling a product or agenda (ala the show Mad Men).I understand that (I work in the business). If Moore* "fictionalizes" something, he gets called out for it. If we "fictionalize" something, we actually get in trouble.
*I like Michael Moore, FWIW.
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Masters said:
It's still about selling a product or agenda (ala the show Mad Men).I understand that (I work in the business). If Moore* "fictionalizes" something, he gets called out for it. If we "fictionalize" something, we actually get in trouble.
*I like Michael Moore, FWIW.
mz. said:
I understand that (I work in the business). If Moore* "fictionalizes" something, he gets called out for it. If we "fictionalize" something, we actually get in trouble.*I like Michael Moore, FWIW.
Oh, I am not saying he fictionalizing (I also work in marketing as well). What he does is angles his information to fit his agenda. Use the facts that fit. Kind of like how people can use studies to do that.
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mz. said:
I understand that (I work in the business). If Moore* "fictionalizes" something, he gets called out for it. If we "fictionalize" something, we actually get in trouble.*I like Michael Moore, FWIW.
Oh, I am not saying he fictionalizing (I also work in marketing as well). What he does is angles his information to fit his agenda. Use the facts that fit. Kind of like how people can use studies to do that.
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You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
but you know everything about losing Masters keep doing your thing
But then again when his stuff is proven correct and my view as well........you will discount that as well and go on to another factless loser opinion................like how the economy is now strong
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
but you know everything about losing Masters keep doing your thing
But then again when his stuff is proven correct and my view as well........you will discount that as well and go on to another factless loser opinion................like how the economy is now strong
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
I am fully aware of Michael Moore. I have seen his movies.
Would you like me to point out the numerous people he has interviewed who have shown that he didn't show half of the other things they said in his interview of them which went against what he was trying to portray of the person or their positions?
I never said he doesn't present facts. Just that he only presents the facts that support his position and leaves out those that go against his. Like I just said to mz the pussy, Moore works in the way studies work. It shows truths, but they are already setup to show a point and intentionally angled to show what they want you to see.
My MO to not show where wrong (like your view when proven correct)? Is that like where you talk about Thomas getting man handled by Mario Williams, yet Williams had one tackle and zero sacks? How about where I point the teams you point at success having all those high draft picks on OL? Maybe where I point out you only show up to kick the Browns and fans when they are down, but are no where to be found when they are doing well?
And of course the economy is doing bad. But unlike you, I won't point only to the Bush administration for that. Seeing as how the down turn actually started under Clintons watch with the .com boom and the major housing cost/loans beginning under his. Or how it continued to get worse even under a democratically controlled congress. Though I do not leave Bush w/o fault either.
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