Mel Kiper on the Super Bowl
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You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
but you know everything about losing Masters keep doing your thing
But then again when his stuff is proven correct and my view as well........you will discount that as well and go on to another factless loser opinion................like how the economy is now strong
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
Here, let me give you a few false items seen in his 9/11 movie (I won't even touch Bowling for Colombine since he even admitted to it being more of a mocumentary).
1. The Gore “victory” rally isn’t celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. 4.
Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly
disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush’s Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president.
Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience “I call you my base,” was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
6.“In his first eight months in office before September 11th, George W. Bush was on vacation, according to the Washington Post, forty-two percent of the time.” As the Washington Post reported, the figure includes weekends, and includes time in “vacation locations” such as Camp David, where Bush was working—as when he met with Tony Blair.
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.
8. There is no evidence that Bush did not read the Aug. 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing about al Qaeda.
9. The Briefing did not say “said that Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes.” It said that the FBI has “not been able to corroborate” such a threat.
10. According to Richard Clarke and the September 11 Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures,
and the decision went no higher in the chain of command.
11. Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that Fahrenheit discloses Clarke’s decision to the audience. Clarke called the Saudi exit material in Fahrenheit a “mistake” by Moore.
12. Contrary to what Fahrenheit claims, the September 11 Commission found that many Saudis were asked “detailed questions” before being allowed to leave.
13. James Bath did not invest bin Laden family money in Bush’s energy company Arbusto. He invested his own money.
14. Bath’s name was blacked-out from an Alabama National Guard record released by the White House—as required by federal law, which prohibits the disclosure of health-related personal information.
15. Prince Bandar has way too much influence on the U.S. government, as Fahrenheit shows, but American coddling of the Saudi tyranny is a long-standing bi-partisan tradition, not a Bush invention.
Moore claims that the Saudis “own 7% of America.” But even if you believe Unger’s fictitious $860 billion figure, the Saudis own only about 7% of total foreign investment in America, which is over 10 trillion dollars. Only if all of America were owned by foreigners could Moore’s claim be correct.
16.The Saudi embassy does not receive special protection. It is not the only foreign embassy which is guarded by the
U.S. Secret Service. An international treaty signed by the U.S. requires the U.S. to protect any embassy which asks for protection.
17. Moore’s insinuation that Bush runs U.S. foreign policy according to Saudi instructions is contradicted by the Afghanistan invasion (which toppled the Taliban regime which the Saudis strongly supported), and by the Iraq War (which the Saudis opposed, in part because Iraqi oil will compete with Saudi oil).
18. John Ashcroft didn’t really lose a Senate election to a “dead guy.” Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash a few weeks before the election, and the Missouri Governor had promised to appoint Carnahan’s widow Jean Carnahan if voters pulled the lever for Mel Carnahan.
19. The proposed Unocal pipeline was supported by the Clinton administration, but Unocal abandoned the pipeline idea in 1998.
20. The new Afghani government has signed a protocol to build a pipeline, but it is an entirely different pipeline, in a location hundreds of miles distant from the Unocal proposal.
21. Construction has not begun on the new pipeline. Although Moore claims that “Enron stood to benefit” from the pipeline, Enron has never had any participation in either pipeline.
Would you like some more?
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You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
Here, let me give you a few false items seen in his 9/11 movie (I won't even touch Bowling for Colombine since he even admitted to it being more of a mocumentary).
1. The Gore “victory” rally isn’t celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. 4.
Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly
disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush’s Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president.
Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience “I call you my base,” was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
6.“In his first eight months in office before September 11th, George W. Bush was on vacation, according to the Washington Post, forty-two percent of the time.” As the Washington Post reported, the figure includes weekends, and includes time in “vacation locations” such as Camp David, where Bush was working—as when he met with Tony Blair.
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.
8. There is no evidence that Bush did not read the Aug. 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing about al Qaeda.
9. The Briefing did not say “said that Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes.” It said that the FBI has “not been able to corroborate” such a threat.
10. According to Richard Clarke and the September 11 Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures,
and the decision went no higher in the chain of command.
11. Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that Fahrenheit discloses Clarke’s decision to the audience. Clarke called the Saudi exit material in Fahrenheit a “mistake” by Moore.
12. Contrary to what Fahrenheit claims, the September 11 Commission found that many Saudis were asked “detailed questions” before being allowed to leave.
13. James Bath did not invest bin Laden family money in Bush’s energy company Arbusto. He invested his own money.
14. Bath’s name was blacked-out from an Alabama National Guard record released by the White House—as required by federal law, which prohibits the disclosure of health-related personal information.
15. Prince Bandar has way too much influence on the U.S. government, as Fahrenheit shows, but American coddling of the Saudi tyranny is a long-standing bi-partisan tradition, not a Bush invention.
Moore claims that the Saudis “own 7% of America.” But even if you believe Unger’s fictitious $860 billion figure, the Saudis own only about 7% of total foreign investment in America, which is over 10 trillion dollars. Only if all of America were owned by foreigners could Moore’s claim be correct.
16.The Saudi embassy does not receive special protection. It is not the only foreign embassy which is guarded by the
U.S. Secret Service. An international treaty signed by the U.S. requires the U.S. to protect any embassy which asks for protection.
17. Moore’s insinuation that Bush runs U.S. foreign policy according to Saudi instructions is contradicted by the Afghanistan invasion (which toppled the Taliban regime which the Saudis strongly supported), and by the Iraq War (which the Saudis opposed, in part because Iraqi oil will compete with Saudi oil).
18. John Ashcroft didn’t really lose a Senate election to a “dead guy.” Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash a few weeks before the election, and the Missouri Governor had promised to appoint Carnahan’s widow Jean Carnahan if voters pulled the lever for Mel Carnahan.
19. The proposed Unocal pipeline was supported by the Clinton administration, but Unocal abandoned the pipeline idea in 1998.
20. The new Afghani government has signed a protocol to build a pipeline, but it is an entirely different pipeline, in a location hundreds of miles distant from the Unocal proposal.
21. Construction has not begun on the new pipeline. Although Moore claims that “Enron stood to benefit” from the pipeline, Enron has never had any participation in either pipeline.
Would you like some more?
Masters said:
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.Who cares what terrorist attacks Bush was talking about here? Still flippant beyond belief.
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Masters said:
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.Who cares what terrorist attacks Bush was talking about here? Still flippant beyond belief.
mz. said:
Who cares what terrorist attacks Bush was talking about here? Still flippant beyond belief.
I don't disagree that it is a flippant remark at all. My only point is that it is an example of twisting a fact to portray and fit a different agenda. It is a truth, but one shown falsly.
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You are full of crap.....if you researched what Moore does you will find his research provides a lot of factual stuff that media and our nation pushes under the rug
you see you pissed on Moore but never presented a single thing where he was dead ass wrong...........which again is your mo
Here, let me give you a few false items seen in his 9/11 movie (I won't even touch Bowling for Colombine since he even admitted to it being more of a mocumentary).
1. The Gore “victory” rally isn’t celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. 4.
Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly
disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush’s Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president.
Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience “I call you my base,” was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
6.“In his first eight months in office before September 11th, George W. Bush was on vacation, according to the Washington Post, forty-two percent of the time.” As the Washington Post reported, the figure includes weekends, and includes time in “vacation locations” such as Camp David, where Bush was working—as when he met with Tony Blair.
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.
8. There is no evidence that Bush did not read the Aug. 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing about al Qaeda.
9. The Briefing did not say “said that Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes.” It said that the FBI has “not been able to corroborate” such a threat.
10. According to Richard Clarke and the September 11 Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures,
and the decision went no higher in the chain of command.
11. Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that Fahrenheit discloses Clarke’s decision to the audience. Clarke called the Saudi exit material in Fahrenheit a “mistake” by Moore.
12. Contrary to what Fahrenheit claims, the September 11 Commission found that many Saudis were asked “detailed questions” before being allowed to leave.
13. James Bath did not invest bin Laden family money in Bush’s energy company Arbusto. He invested his own money.
14. Bath’s name was blacked-out from an Alabama National Guard record released by the White House—as required by federal law, which prohibits the disclosure of health-related personal information.
15. Prince Bandar has way too much influence on the U.S. government, as Fahrenheit shows, but American coddling of the Saudi tyranny is a long-standing bi-partisan tradition, not a Bush invention.
Moore claims that the Saudis “own 7% of America.” But even if you believe Unger’s fictitious $860 billion figure, the Saudis own only about 7% of total foreign investment in America, which is over 10 trillion dollars. Only if all of America were owned by foreigners could Moore’s claim be correct.
16.The Saudi embassy does not receive special protection. It is not the only foreign embassy which is guarded by the
U.S. Secret Service. An international treaty signed by the U.S. requires the U.S. to protect any embassy which asks for protection.
17. Moore’s insinuation that Bush runs U.S. foreign policy according to Saudi instructions is contradicted by the Afghanistan invasion (which toppled the Taliban regime which the Saudis strongly supported), and by the Iraq War (which the Saudis opposed, in part because Iraqi oil will compete with Saudi oil).
18. John Ashcroft didn’t really lose a Senate election to a “dead guy.” Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash a few weeks before the election, and the Missouri Governor had promised to appoint Carnahan’s widow Jean Carnahan if voters pulled the lever for Mel Carnahan.
19. The proposed Unocal pipeline was supported by the Clinton administration, but Unocal abandoned the pipeline idea in 1998.
20. The new Afghani government has signed a protocol to build a pipeline, but it is an entirely different pipeline, in a location hundreds of miles distant from the Unocal proposal.
21. Construction has not begun on the new pipeline. Although Moore claims that “Enron stood to benefit” from the pipeline, Enron has never had any participation in either pipeline.
Would you like some more?
Masters said:
Here, let me give you a few false items seen in his 9/11 movie (I won't even touch Bowling for Colombine since he even admitted to it being more of a mocumentary).1. The Gore "victory" rally isn't celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. 4.
Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly
disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush's Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president.
Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience "I call you my base," was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
6."In his first eight months in office before September 11th, George W. Bush was on vacation, according to the Washington Post, forty-two percent of the time." As the Washington Post reported, the figure includes weekends, and includes time in "vacation locations" such as Camp David, where Bush was working—as when he met with Tony Blair.
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.
8. There is no evidence that Bush did not read the Aug. 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing about al Qaeda.
9. The Briefing did not say "said that Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes." It said that the FBI has "not been able to corroborate" such a threat.
10. According to Richard Clarke and the September 11 Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures,
and the decision went no higher in the chain of command.
11. Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that Fahrenheit discloses Clarke's decision to the audience. Clarke called the Saudi exit material in Fahrenheit a "mistake" by Moore.
12. Contrary to what Fahrenheit claims, the September 11 Commission found that many Saudis were asked "detailed questions" before being allowed to leave.
13. James Bath did not invest bin Laden family money in Bush's energy company Arbusto. He invested his own money.
14. Bath's name was blacked-out from an Alabama National Guard record released by the White House—as required by federal law, which prohibits the disclosure of health-related personal information.
15. Prince Bandar has way too much influence on the U.S. government, as Fahrenheit shows, but American coddling of the Saudi tyranny is a long-standing bi-partisan tradition, not a Bush invention.
Moore claims that the Saudis "own 7% of America." But even if you believe Unger's fictitious $860 billion figure, the Saudis own only about 7% of total foreign investment in America, which is over 10 trillion dollars. Only if all of America were owned by foreigners could Moore's claim be correct.
16.The Saudi embassy does not receive special protection. It is not the only foreign embassy which is guarded by the
U.S. Secret Service. An international treaty signed by the U.S. requires the U.S. to protect any embassy which asks for protection.
17. Moore's insinuation that Bush runs U.S. foreign policy according to Saudi instructions is contradicted by the Afghanistan invasion (which toppled the Taliban regime which the Saudis strongly supported), and by the Iraq War (which the Saudis opposed, in part because Iraqi oil will compete with Saudi oil).
18. John Ashcroft didn't really lose a Senate election to a "dead guy." Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash a few weeks before the election, and the Missouri Governor had promised to appoint Carnahan's widow Jean Carnahan if voters pulled the lever for Mel Carnahan.
19. The proposed Unocal pipeline was supported by the Clinton administration, but Unocal abandoned the pipeline idea in 1998.
20. The new Afghani government has signed a protocol to build a pipeline, but it is an entirely different pipeline, in a location hundreds of miles distant from the Unocal proposal.
21. Construction has not begun on the new pipeline. Although Moore claims that "Enron stood to benefit" from the pipeline, Enron has never had any participation in either pipeline.
Would you like some more?
So you are republican applauding the last eight years of disaster and living in denial............and blaming Clinton and Thomas Jefferson for the last eight years debacle and the war based on lies and the trickle down economic disaster..........why would one have wondered otherwise...........YOUR MO is what it is...........DENIAL is your politics and DENIAL is your fandom..........
get it??????????? of course you do not!!! One cannot debate with one who chooses to ignore the issues and meaningful facts and draws needles out of haystacks to construct arguments.......and that is you my friend..............keep living in denial and blaming the problems in the US and the Browns on everything but the true causes..................hopeless in Denial
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Masters said:
Here, let me give you a few false items seen in his 9/11 movie (I won't even touch Bowling for Colombine since he even admitted to it being more of a mocumentary).1. The Gore "victory" rally isn't celebrating a Florida win. It was held before the polls had even opened
2. Like all the other networks, Fox mistakenly said that Gore had won in Florida. The first network to retract the Florida mistake was CBS, not Fox.
3. A 6-month study by a consortium of major newspapers shows that Bush would have won the Florida recount under any of the terms which Gore sought in his lawsuits.
4. 4.
Investigation by the Palm Beach Post and others shows that race was not a reason why election officials mistakenly
disqualified some voters because they were incorrectly thought to have felony convictions.
5. Bush's Presidency before 9/11 was not in serious trouble. No commentator said that he looked like a lame-duck president.
Congress had passed his #1 bill (the tax cut) and was on the way to passing his #2 bill (the education bill). The scene at the end of the movie in which Bush tells a rich audience "I call you my base," was from an October 2000 charity fund-raiser. Both Gore and Bush spoke at the fund-raiser and, as is the custom at the fund-raiser, made fun of themselves.
6."In his first eight months in office before September 11th, George W. Bush was on vacation, according to the Washington Post, forty-two percent of the time." As the Washington Post reported, the figure includes weekends, and includes time in "vacation locations" such as Camp David, where Bush was working—as when he met with Tony Blair.
7.In the golf course scene (about the middle of the movie), Bush had just heard about a terrorist attack on Israel. He called the press together to make a quick statement condemning the terrorism against Israel. He was not speaking about attacks on the United States.
8. There is no evidence that Bush did not read the Aug. 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing about al Qaeda.
9. The Briefing did not say "said that Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America by hijacking airplanes." It said that the FBI has "not been able to corroborate" such a threat.
10. According to Richard Clarke and the September 11 Commission, Clarke personally approved the Saudi departures,
and the decision went no higher in the chain of command.
11. Moore lied to a TV reporter in claiming that Fahrenheit discloses Clarke's decision to the audience. Clarke called the Saudi exit material in Fahrenheit a "mistake" by Moore.
12. Contrary to what Fahrenheit claims, the September 11 Commission found that many Saudis were asked "detailed questions" before being allowed to leave.
13. James Bath did not invest bin Laden family money in Bush's energy company Arbusto. He invested his own money.
14. Bath's name was blacked-out from an Alabama National Guard record released by the White House—as required by federal law, which prohibits the disclosure of health-related personal information.
15. Prince Bandar has way too much influence on the U.S. government, as Fahrenheit shows, but American coddling of the Saudi tyranny is a long-standing bi-partisan tradition, not a Bush invention.
Moore claims that the Saudis "own 7% of America." But even if you believe Unger's fictitious $860 billion figure, the Saudis own only about 7% of total foreign investment in America, which is over 10 trillion dollars. Only if all of America were owned by foreigners could Moore's claim be correct.
16.The Saudi embassy does not receive special protection. It is not the only foreign embassy which is guarded by the
U.S. Secret Service. An international treaty signed by the U.S. requires the U.S. to protect any embassy which asks for protection.
17. Moore's insinuation that Bush runs U.S. foreign policy according to Saudi instructions is contradicted by the Afghanistan invasion (which toppled the Taliban regime which the Saudis strongly supported), and by the Iraq War (which the Saudis opposed, in part because Iraqi oil will compete with Saudi oil).
18. John Ashcroft didn't really lose a Senate election to a "dead guy." Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash a few weeks before the election, and the Missouri Governor had promised to appoint Carnahan's widow Jean Carnahan if voters pulled the lever for Mel Carnahan.
19. The proposed Unocal pipeline was supported by the Clinton administration, but Unocal abandoned the pipeline idea in 1998.
20. The new Afghani government has signed a protocol to build a pipeline, but it is an entirely different pipeline, in a location hundreds of miles distant from the Unocal proposal.
21. Construction has not begun on the new pipeline. Although Moore claims that "Enron stood to benefit" from the pipeline, Enron has never had any participation in either pipeline.
Would you like some more?
So you are republican applauding the last eight years of disaster and living in denial............and blaming Clinton and Thomas Jefferson for the last eight years debacle and the war based on lies and the trickle down economic disaster..........why would one have wondered otherwise...........YOUR MO is what it is...........DENIAL is your politics and DENIAL is your fandom..........
get it??????????? of course you do not!!! One cannot debate with one who chooses to ignore the issues and meaningful facts and draws needles out of haystacks to construct arguments.......and that is you my friend..............keep living in denial and blaming the problems in the US and the Browns on everything but the true causes..................hopeless in Denial
So you are republican applauding the last eight years of disaster and living in denial............and blaming Clinton and Thomas Jefferson for the last eight years debacle and the war based on lies and the trickle down economic disaster..........why would one have wondered otherwise...........YOUR MO is what it is...........DENIAL is your politics and DENIAL is your fandom..........
get it??????????? of course you do not!!! One cannot debate with one who chooses to ignore the issues and meaningful facts and draws needles out of haystacks to construct arguments.......and that is you my friend..............keep living in denial and blaming the problems in the US and the Browns on everything but the true causes..................hopeless in Denial
Way to dodge Rich, way to dodge.
I haven't applauded all 8 years. Mearly pointed out a handful of untruths in Moores documentary. Notice how you don't even try to debate what the subject was. Your MO.
Only person in denial is you good buddy.
And if you believe the economy is solely on the Bush administration, it shows how little you know your history, the economic cycles, or how many decisions of presidencies take many years to really have a national effect. You can take savings and loan, Enron, and other issues back to Clinton admin failures as well as George H Bush's admin.
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I haven't applauded all 8 years. Mearly pointed out a handful of untruths in Moores documentary. Notice how you don't even try to debate what the subject was.
Classic!
I haven't applauded all 8 years. Mearly pointed out a handful of untruths in Moores documentary. Notice how you don't even try to debate what the subject was.
Classic!
He is who he is. Just like saying Thomas got man handled by Mario Williams, then hinds when it's pointed out that Williams had 1 tackle and zero sacks against Thomas.
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