Game Notes vs. Pittsburgh
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McCoy did a lot better than most thought he would do against the Steelers. He stayed in the pocket, took some shots, and didn't get rattled. Cleveland is getting better, needs a couple good receivers, and the rest of the guys to get healthy. I think Colt has a bright future ahead of him.
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Homotron said:
More helmet to helmet crying. The first one was in traffic and Cribbs was designated as a RB. What is a players supposed to do go for the tackle to knock the ball loose and detach his head from his body? The other one with Mo-mass he blasted him in the chest with his arms. Don't be surprised if he doesn't get fined. As far as the outcome is concerned Cribbs did nothing up to that point, what makes you think he would have done more later in the game? Hillis wasn't going anywhere. McCoy was on his ass a lot and sacked several times. Why not just admit the Browns were outplayed instead of jumping on the soapbox?I had positives and negatives in my post for a reason. Trust me, I am not happy.
Mendenhall was hit helmet to helmet in the second half, should have been flagged.
You are right, we should have been flagged as well. Bad officiating on both sides.
I had positives and negatives in my post for a reason. Trust me, I am not happy.
You are right, we should have been flagged as well. Bad officiating on both sides.
We all know, (putting aside the rivalry for the sake of making a point) that if the Steelers aren't winning enough to keep the bandwagons interested, the national media gives them about as much attention as we get. This includes enforcement of roughing the passer/ helmet to helmet from an officiating standpoint. Only the "marquee" teams like Cowgirls, Patsies, and I'm beginning to suspect Jets are going to have these calls made regularly for (so often that its ticky tack). The XL Bowl was officiated terribly on both sides, but a combination of The Bus finally getting to the big one, and the fact the Stadium was so filled with fans of the Steelers, that the balance of the bad calls benefited the home team.
On a side note, do we have a market as large as NY? Hell no! But, we're better fans, hell the Burgh has better fans than NY, and the West Coast would rather pretend professional football doesn't exist, but it's not as if we're an expansion bought with a billionaires funds for some crap market like the Titans, Jaguars, and Panthers. We deserve better recognition than we get. And to hell with "America's Team" whoever that might be; it's a myth perpetuated by guys that would sell their wives to shower with the likes of Tony Romo or whoever is the golden boy of the week happens to be...
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I had positives and negatives in my post for a reason. Trust me, I am not happy.
You are right, we should have been flagged as well. Bad officiating on both sides.
We all know, (putting aside the rivalry for the sake of making a point) that if the Steelers aren't winning enough to keep the bandwagons interested, the national media gives them about as much attention as we get. This includes enforcement of roughing the passer/ helmet to helmet from an officiating standpoint. Only the "marquee" teams like Cowgirls, Patsies, and I'm beginning to suspect Jets are going to have these calls made regularly for (so often that its ticky tack). The XL Bowl was officiated terribly on both sides, but a combination of The Bus finally getting to the big one, and the fact the Stadium was so filled with fans of the Steelers, that the balance of the bad calls benefited the home team.
On a side note, do we have a market as large as NY? Hell no! But, we're better fans, hell the Burgh has better fans than NY, and the West Coast would rather pretend professional football doesn't exist, but it's not as if we're an expansion bought with a billionaires funds for some crap market like the Titans, Jaguars, and Panthers. We deserve better recognition than we get. And to hell with "America's Team" whoever that might be; it's a myth perpetuated by guys that would sell their wives to shower with the likes of Tony Romo or whoever is the golden boy of the week happens to be...
On a side note, do we have a market as large as NY? Hell no! But, we're better fans, hell the Burgh has better fans than NY,
i agree with the majority of what you said except NY and it's fans. huge brown fan here and will be till the end of days but till about 5 years ago the jets fans would be the only ones left in the bar at the end of the day/night next to me crying in their beers. F THE COWBOYS!.
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so you say...again and again and again.....@spunkonmyback-dpoy said:
Harrison didn't touch his helmet on that play so you just sound dumb.just stfu already broken record(s). nothings changin except the thread page length. you guys need to go celebrate or something. and if lurking on our site to gloat is your idea of that, well then keep it movin cuz i'm not the "M" to your "S".
back to game notes.
Colt looked really promising. i have already seen enough to be willing to endure his growing pains all 2010 long. tbh this loss doesn't even sting.
i do disagree about his pocket presence being a positive. he "self-flushed" many times when he should have just stepped up.
watch some T. Brady film, Colt. this ain't the NCAA anymore.
timeline: he sucked in training camp and skipped being a newlywed to digest daboll's playbook, and by the second preseason game had already progressed enough to beat out Ratty (!). these days i hear he's cutting up the scout team in practice like they were rails on a Bowie mirror.
i just can't count him out. at all. his ceiling is high, he has all the tools, all the intangibles, decent technique, he's crafty, and he's driven. so far, he's already one of the best 3rd rd picks we've had since 99, and could easily become THE best. i know that's not saying a whole lot...or is it? given our QB sitchy it definitely couldn't have come at a better time.
did Holmy/Haskell's cliff notes put him on the fast track or maybe he's just a legit stud? either way, we just might have something really special w/ this kid.
in other news...
godspeed Asante, godspeed.....cuz in the meantime the shoulder pad tackling whiffs are endless. "swing your partner round and round" as he spins and you fall on your ass. yes i'm talking about you, Abe.
it's nice to validate there were absolutely no legs to that Haden combine 40 time concern. really nice.
Gocong who? Scott xxxx? both barely avg at best imo. i think Benard doesn't start cuz of his mistakes and penalties. fix those and he's in imo.
Rogers? Kenyon? i guess they ran out of gorilla glue and duct tape for Robaire this week. next year they need to make a concerted effort to stock the DL cupboards way up with some late picks. i'd say again but this new expansion team has yet to.
build around Ahtyba--i really like him. great motor and awesome hustle and quickness in the flat for a huge man. not too much this week to brag about but it's consistent and always at a high level, even if it's not "sexy".
hey Hillis, go eat some wings with Bell and talk playbook. we need him up to speed asap.
dare i say it, i'm really starting to miss Braylon a bit. at least defenses respected his potential. WR probably should be #1 priority this next draft. hey, we tried it, it didn't work. looks like we'll have to have a diva after all.
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No other O line in the league, maybe except the Jets O line, would have performed better against your defense. Case closed on that.
Fines will be out. I know this as a fact, not a speculation. Fines on both sides.
Your o-line performed well? They certainly didn't do bad but I wouldn't say they preformed well. McCoy made the most of his time back there but he was hurried PLENTY and got sacked what 4 times? Hillis went no where. I wouldn't say the o-line performed well.
Homotron said:
Your o-line performed well? Hillis went no where. I wouldn't say the o-line performed well.Hillis averaged more per carry than Mendenhall....and he didn't get the chance to run as much because the Browns had to play catch up
Make my words the Steelers will not beat the better AFC teams in the playoffs this year.....if they make it. The Browns have a bad secondary and Ben had one good drive. The others were on shortened fields after turnovers. The Steelers WR are overrated. Just double Wallace and keep them in front of you. No one is confusing any of the other Steeler WR's with being fast. Ladarius Webb shut down Wallace and he is an average corner. The Brown's didnot game plan the Pass well at all today.
The Steeler D can be thrown on all day as evidenced by a rookie lighting them up for yards. U dont think Brady, Brees will pick them apart? Guess again
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Homotron said:
Your o-line performed well? Hillis went no where. I wouldn't say the o-line performed well.Hillis averaged more per carry than Mendenhall....and he didn't get the chance to run as much because the Browns had to play catch up
Make my words the Steelers will not beat the better AFC teams in the playoffs this year.....if they make it. The Browns have a bad secondary and Ben had one good drive. The others were on shortened fields after turnovers. The Steelers WR are overrated. Just double Wallace and keep them in front of you. No one is confusing any of the other Steeler WR's with being fast. Ladarius Webb shut down Wallace and he is an average corner. The Brown's didnot game plan the Pass well at all today.
The Steeler D can be thrown on all day as evidenced by a rookie lighting them up for yards. U dont think Brady, Brees will pick them apart? Guess again
Hillis averaged more per carry than Mendenhall....and he didn't get the chance to run as much because the Browns had to play catch up
Make my words the Steelers will not beat the better AFC teams in the playoffs this year.....if they make it. The Browns have a bad secondary and Ben had one good drive. The others were on shortened fields after turnovers. The Steelers WR are overrated. Just double Wallace and keep them in front of you. No one is confusing any of the other Steeler WR's with being fast. Ladarius Webb shut down Wallace and he is an average corner. The Brown's didnot game plan the Pass well at all today.
The Steeler D can be thrown on all day as evidenced by a rookie lighting them up for yards. U dont think Brady, Brees will pick them apart? Guess again
thanks for getting this back on track Sisco... today was an interesting test... saw some positives... some negatives... let's stay on topic.
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I thought I heard ben saying that his parents were there and he felt bad about what he had done
Are you talking about TJ Wards hit on mendenhall? That was a good clean hit and didn't even knock Mendenhall to the ground but it sure stunned him a little
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Here are my positives and negatives of this weeks matchup:
POSITIVES:
-Colt McCoy should be the starter for the rest of the season. Experience is gold in the NFL these days. I know its early but he shows signs of being a great QB in this league. Brady Quinn and Colt McCoy are two completely different QB's so don't even try to compare the two. Colt played smarter football than I have seen from anyone in a really long time. He made some rookie mistakes, but he is a rookie.
-Hillis didn't look injured at all. For the past two weeks I have been afraid of his durability but now he has answered all of my questions and this guy is definitely in it for the long haul.
-Evan Moore should be targeted moore (haha pun!). He is one of the most athletic guys on our team and should be converted to WR.
-O line played phenomenal. The protected Colt way more than I expected. Great job to them.
-Joe Haden, what a great draft pick. Not only did he make that heads up INT, but he made something very positive about it. Great job from the rookie.
-D Line actually got pressure on Ben. I'm impressed! (even tho it was against the worst O line in the league)
NEGATIVES:
-Besides Haden and Ward (two rookies), the secondary is shit. I have been giving Sheldon Brown excuses for a few weeks now but I am done with that. He just lost hte mojo he had in Philadelphia and that is probably why he was dealt here in the first place. Wright is no longer having bad games, but a bad year. He is just slacking and he cannot cover worth a dime. Elam is the worst tackler in the league. Adams can't cover either. We need some help.
-Before this game, I always blew it off when people told me the refs throw the game for the Steelers. All that conspiracy blah blah blah is bullshit. But this game gave me a second thought. James Harrison, who I met before and is a really nice guy, knocked both Josh Cribbs and MoMass out of the game with helmet to helmet hits. Not only was this bad playing from Harrison but it was horrible officiating. Fines will be handed out, I promise you that. But to call an offensive penalty when our WR just got nailed in the head by the defense? Really? Totally uncalled for. Who knows what the outcome of the game would be if Josh would have been in the entire game.
-Our WR core is worse than I thought! Now that we are banged up maybe we can go trade for someone! Probably wont happen knowing us. But its worth a shot.
That is all.
Here are my positives and negatives of this weeks matchup:
POSITIVES:
-Colt McCoy should be the starter for the rest of the season. Experience is gold in the NFL these days. I know its early but he shows signs of being a great QB in this league. Brady Quinn and Colt McCoy are two completely different QB's so don't even try to compare the two. Colt played smarter football than I have seen from anyone in a really long time. He made some rookie mistakes, but he is a rookie.
-Hillis didn't look injured at all. For the past two weeks I have been afraid of his durability but now he has answered all of my questions and this guy is definitely in it for the long haul.
-Evan Moore should be targeted moore (haha pun!). He is one of the most athletic guys on our team and should be converted to WR.
-O line played phenomenal. The protected Colt way more than I expected. Great job to them.
-Joe Haden, what a great draft pick. Not only did he make that heads up INT, but he made something very positive about it. Great job from the rookie.
-D Line actually got pressure on Ben. I'm impressed! (even tho it was against the worst O line in the league)
NEGATIVES:
-Besides Haden and Ward (two rookies), the secondary is shit. I have been giving Sheldon Brown excuses for a few weeks now but I am done with that. He just lost hte mojo he had in Philadelphia and that is probably why he was dealt here in the first place. Wright is no longer having bad games, but a bad year. He is just slacking and he cannot cover worth a dime. Elam is the worst tackler in the league. Adams can't cover either. We need some help.
-Before this game, I always blew it off when people told me the refs throw the game for the Steelers. All that conspiracy blah blah blah is bullshit. But this game gave me a second thought. James Harrison, who I met before and is a really nice guy, knocked both Josh Cribbs and MoMass out of the game with helmet to helmet hits. Not only was this bad playing from Harrison but it was horrible officiating. Fines will be handed out, I promise you that. But to call an offensive penalty when our WR just got nailed in the head by the defense? Really? Totally uncalled for. Who knows what the outcome of the game would be if Josh would have been in the entire game.
-Our WR core is worse than I thought! Now that we are banged up maybe we can go trade for someone! Probably wont happen knowing us. But its worth a shot.
That is all.
Your a JOKE man... Grow up and be a MAN. Take your losses like a MAN. excuses out the rectum... a JOKE and an Embarrassment to being a MAN all this endless whining. And Cribbs and MoMas or Not You guys weren't gonna Win this Game. Pittsburgh just would have Stepped it up all the More. You all whipped us last year In C-Town ...thats wasnt gonna Happen Sunday. WOULDA...COulda Shoulda... BLaaaa Blaaa blaaa !
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Did anyone see the pre-game interview between Pig Ben and Cowher? Pig Ben STILL says he didn't do anything wrong!!! Yea, he's learned his lesson alright! What a schmuck!
Did anyone see the pre-game interview between Pig Ben and Cowher? Pig Ben STILL says he didn't do anything wrong!!! Yea, he's learned his lesson alright! What a schmuck!
Were you there? Please, enlighten us as to what he did wrong?
I wouldn't expect you to be unbiased about the situation, but have you read the police report, read the full statement of the DA, watched the released tapes?
Or are you just being a hater and wanting Roethlisberger to be guilty.
Roethlisberger did not do "anything wrong" because he did not rape the girl as accused of. Evidence? A rape kit investigation showed no xxxxl tearing and lack of DNA evidence. Bottom line - there was no forced penetration.
Why was he suspended 4 games? I won't blame you for not being smart enough to understand anything beyond what you are told to believe, but it's very simple
The Steelers management could not enforce a penalty on Ben per the CBA, so they helped influence it with Goodell. They wanted him suspended. He had a bad pattern of behavior. There was no question he was being a jerk, not so much in Midgeville, but as a person, and for a long period of time. He was arrogant, a drama queen and a poor teammate. The accusations were made by girls that were not even in the VIP room, but were kicked out. Ben had them kicked out, probably because he was being a pompous ass and they were being bratty bitches (a reputation the girls have on that campus). There was definitely an axe to grind after the way he treated them.
I've met Ben, he was a jerk. He was on a bad path and when you are on a bad path, its not a matter of if - but when - it bites you unless you change.
Ben is a mega-celebrity.....as big as there is in the NFL, and his case brought on a lot of negative attention. If he was a back up, no one would have cared and there would not have been a large suspension. If you doubt that.....go use your search engine tool and look up Eric Foster (Colts) and Brandon Underwood (Packers) and tell me why their Sexual Assault charges did not get front page news or a suspension.
Granted, these are calm, basic, unbiased facts. Funny thing is, a small amount of research will provide all of that to you, but first you have to get over the fact that just because he was accused of something and you want it to be true (soley based on the fact he plays for the team that you hate the most, is one of the best in the game and makes them a legit contender for the Super Bowl) does not make it true.
Typical hypocritical Browns fans......
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Homotron said:
He was suspended for conduct unbecoming of a professional football player WITH the Rooney's blessing and truthfully the suspension likely saved his career.So, tell me, how do you get suspended by the NFL for "conduct unbecoming of a professional football player" if he, according to his own words, "did NOTHING wrong"?
I bet you believe OJ is innocent too, huh?
So, tell me, how do you get suspended by the NFL for "conduct unbecoming of a professional football player" if he, according to his own words, "did NOTHING wrong"?
I bet you believe OJ is innocent too, huh?
Just like I said to the other biased poster.....
You get suspended when the Rooney's want to penalize you (yet give you a 2nd chance), but cannot per the CBA. They help influence the commissioners decision.
Compare with Santonio Holmes, whom they could not suspend, but they did DEACTIVATE (meaning he still got a game check). It was a message to say, here is your 2nd chance, don't screw it up
OJ's case did not have overwhelming evidence to show him innocent - such as having a rape kit investigation done within 2 hours of the alleged incident, which showed no vagnal tearing and minimal DNA - which means there was no forced penetration and lack of DNA implies possibly no penetration at all.
OJ's case did not have girls saying that their friend was dragged down the hall and the bathroom door was locked when they were not in the room at the alleged time of the alleged dragging down the hall and the bathroom door had no lock
OJ's case did not have the girls stalking him all night long with eye witness accounts of the girl making out with him and making sexually suggestive comments and behavior all night long
The NFL got a seriously hard black eye from the events of what happened with Big Ben. And they made an example of him. If he were a back up, no one would have cared and it would have been no story. Only reason it was a story is that it was Big Ben.
Don't believe it.....use your fingers......go to Google, type in the search engine Eric Foster (Colts) and Brandon Underwood (Packers) and check out all the information on their sexual assault claims against them in the offseason. Why did they not get headlines?
Ben was not charged with a crime. Excuse me, but um.....Mr. bet you think OJ is innocent, but wasn't OJ "Charged"? Guess you missed the statement where the DA actually stated they didn't even have probable cause to arrest, much less convict.
Nice try......but no matter how much you hope for it to not be so, Ben was suspended for reasons you aren't bright enough to understand - and it was about correcting his massive ego problem and NFL image. I know you don't understand that, get what it means, but maybe, just maybe, one day you will.
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