Grading Out the Colt
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I think we should start him the rest of the way but have Wallace ready (when healthy) to come in if he struggles. To me, it's only going to get easier for him the rest of the way other than possibly playing the Ravens but at least we get them at home. New England and New Orleans are good but I don't think they have the defense that Pisspuke does.
He started off slow and looked really nervous early but seemed to settle down and play well the rest of the way.
I'd say it was one of the better QB performances for us against Pittsburgh in quite some time.
I think we should start him the rest of the way but have Wallace ready (when healthy) to come in if he struggles.
I say for sure he starts against the Saints , and if he continues to show a grasp of the offense then stick with him the
remainder of the year...I don't think coaches want to start jerking this kid around if he struggles...deal with it growing pains and all
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Guys ... guys ... guys ... WTF? I haven't seen anyone mention anything about Colt accuracy? That is the #1 reason why I want to see him in there. The kid was dead-accurate today.
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INTs aside, he played the best game that any browns QB has played this season. if he is going to have long term success as QB on this team, his best receivers can't be evan moore and ben watson. we need to build around him. keep him the starter. we can beat the saints next week.
INTs aside, he played the best game that any browns QB has played this season. if he is going to have long term success as QB on this team, his best receivers can't be evan moore and ben watson. we need to build around him. keep him the starter. we can beat the saints next week.
Total agreement. Colt put up this performance against the best defense in the league with NO weapons (and I say that not knocking our TE's who are are best position group by far this year). Imagine what Colt could have done today with a Randy Moss and 2nd option being a MoMass/Cribbs without a concussion.
Our season is gone now and we know that Delhomme and Wallace were only meant to be a 2 year quick fix anyways. Start Colt, have Wallace back him up (like I am sure he will be doing for the next 2-5 years). Worst case, this was a one game mistake (which I really don't think it was) and Colt sucks until Wallace and Delhomme come back and then we pick someone up in the next draft.
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Guys ... guys ... guys ... WTF? I haven't seen anyone mention anything about Colt accuracy? That is the #1 reason why I want to see him in there. The kid was dead-accurate today.
Guys ... guys ... guys ... WTF? I haven't seen anyone mention anything about Colt accuracy? That is the #1 reason why I want to see him in there. The kid was dead-accurate today.
the 'expert' on either cbs or nfl-n bashed him for his arm strength and accuracy before the game. he did both pretty well today.
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Guys ... guys ... guys ... WTF? I haven't seen anyone mention anything about Colt accuracy? That is the #1 reason why I want to see him in there. The kid was dead-accurate today.
Guys ... guys ... guys ... WTF? I haven't seen anyone mention anything about Colt accuracy? That is the #1 reason why I want to see him in there. The kid was dead-accurate today.
The throw to Moore down the right sideline was a thing of beauty. No way Jake, Seneca, Quinn or Anderson makes that throw. Even the throws into coverage were well-placed.
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You absolutely start him. He was completely poised. Showed no sign of panic, and I'm not talking about scrambling out of the pocket ("Solomon Wilcots" asswipe)
His accuracy was tremendous. Seriously. Just think of what he did!!! Two tipped int's which can happen to anyone.
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Ok who is the one NO vote? Please explain. Colt had the best game by a QB for us so far this year against the Steelers.
Ok who is the one NO vote? Please explain. Colt had the best game by a QB for us so far this year against the Steelers.
Colt was Impressive... Mostly his Coolness. He was like WHO are you guys ?? He was just Playn` Some Football ! No Bad at all...
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I've been reflecting on today's game quite a bit and I was going to say "give him one more week and then evaluate when the other guys are healthy." but the more I think about it the more I think that Colt should start the remainder of the games. Some reasons:
1. He just put up 282 yards and an 80.5 rating against arguably the best defense in the league. He showed tremendous poise and the environments don't get any more hostile.
2. If he's going to have growing pains and he's already as good or better than Wallace or Delhomme...you may as well let the future start now.
3. He showed me today that he's mentally tough enough. If he can survive in Pittsburgh, do you really believe he could be "mentally scarred" by playing?
4. The next three games are really tough but the remainder smooth out a bit. You get the Steelers and Ravens at home. You get Buffalo and Jacksonville. I think I'd take my chances with the rookie.
I'd like to hear your thoughts and reasons why Colt should or shouldn't start. I thought I was over-reacting to him playing well today but considering the above....perhaps I am not.
Poll results from the old forum
Should Colt Start?
- Yes: 65 votes
- No: 11 votes
I've been reflecting on today's game quite a bit and I was going to say "give him one more week and then evaluate when the other guys are healthy." but the more I think about it the more I think that Colt should start the remainder of the games. Some reasons:
1. He just put up 282 yards and an 80.5 rating against arguably the best defense in the league. He showed tremendous poise and the environments don't get any more hostile.
2. If he's going to have growing pains and he's already as good or better than Wallace or Delhomme...you may as well let the future start now.
3. He showed me today that he's mentally tough enough. If he can survive in Pittsburgh, do you really believe he could be "mentally scarred" by playing?
4. The next three games are really tough but the remainder smooth out a bit. You get the Steelers and Ravens at home. You get Buffalo and Jacksonville. I think I'd take my chances with the rookie.
I'd like to hear your thoughts and reasons why Colt should or shouldn't start. I thought I was over-reacting to him playing well today but considering the above....perhaps I am not.
He was very solid... Now about 100 yrs or so ...on the lovely Prevent Defense. But Once he got down there He got a Beautiful play on the TD... I was NOT happy... but Impressed. Better days ahead for the Brownies .
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congrats.
you have a starting QB now.
now your team should start building around him, but honestly the QB is the foundation, and the hardest part to get.
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
My reasons why, in no particular order:
1. His accuracy is pretty good. Shit, he can actually hit receivers in stride
2. His first start was AT the home of one of the best defenses in the NFL, and fair pretty well. First INT was a Delhomme and I didn't see the second one. But things can't get much harder from here
3. I know this is is basically what i said in #1 but he completed 70% of his passes, coupled with #2 and you can see why we are all impressed
4. By the end of the game he was quite as fleet of of foot as we was early on. He started to stay in the pocket and take a few licks while completing passes downfield.
5. Also when Colt threw to TE's it was because they were open and not dump offs (I.E Quinn, who despite being from my hometown, sucks immensely)
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congrats.
you have a starting QB now.
now your team should start building around him, but honestly the QB is the foundation, and the hardest part to get.
congrats.
you have a starting QB now.
now your team should start building around him, but honestly the QB is the foundation, and the hardest part to get.
I said "start him the rest of the way". One good start does not a franchise QB make. Eric Zeier had a good debut. That said, I think that doing that in Pittsburgh is what impressed me. It also impressed Dick LeBeau and Tomlin or so I am told.
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congrats.
you have a starting QB now.
now your team should start building around him, but honestly the QB is the foundation, and the hardest part to get.
I said "start him the rest of the way". One good start does not a franchise QB make. Eric Zeier had a good debut. That said, I think that doing that in Pittsburgh is what impressed me. It also impressed Dick LeBeau and Tomlin or so I am told.
I said "start him the rest of the way". One good start does not a franchise QB make. Eric Zeier had a good debut. That said, I think that doing that in Pittsburgh is what impressed me. It also impressed Dick LeBeau and Tomlin or so I am told.
i would agree. i honestly thought we were gonna get 4 or more interceptions and he wouldn't pass 100yrds passing till the 4th qtr when our scrubs were in.
this bodes VERY well for your team and the future.
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Keep in mind, Colt was out there with 2 WR 2 TE sets all day. To find a receiver in those sets almost every time is impressive.
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congrats.
you have a starting QB now.
now your team should start building around him, but honestly the QB is the foundation, and the hardest part to get.
I said "start him the rest of the way". One good start does not a franchise QB make. Eric Zeier had a good debut. That said, I think that doing that in Pittsburgh is what impressed me. It also impressed Dick LeBeau and Tomlin or so I am told.
I said "start him the rest of the way". One good start does not a franchise QB make. Eric Zeier had a good debut. That said, I think that doing that in Pittsburgh is what impressed me. It also impressed Dick LeBeau and Tomlin or so I am told.
Yes ... His COOL .. Wahtever attitude Impressed me. He wasnt Scared of the PITTSBURGH LBers at all.
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OK, I put in the second"no" vote. Let's not get all giddy Browns fans. Was that an impressive performance? Hell yes!!!! Um teams have tape on the Coltster now.
I'm not flat-out nixing the idea, but let's not get carried away. Assuming Wallace and Delhomme are still both crippled, I would let Colt start against the Saints- who have been playing far less impressive D than the Steelers- and THEN you evaluate where you want to go during the bye week.
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every time the browns draft a QB, they start him too early
he gets hurt or has a bad outing, then they start the backup the next game. then there is some sort of QB competition because both QBs are OK
why dont you guys root for the offensive captain to come back and play. jake delhomme is the starter. hes the captain
this is one of the major issues with the browns franchise. i know you guys are always excited about the new toy that you guys seem to draft every other year but the guys in charge know what they are doing and mccoy only started because it was an emergency
once the other guys are healthy he should go back to holding a clipboard and learning from the vets
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I voted yes.
If he continues to grow, or heck, plays as well as he did today, it makes all the sense in the world to continue to let him start and grow.
I believe he will show more pronounced growing pains going forward as defenses start to gameplan around him, but how cool would it be to have a legitimate quarterback that teams have to game plan against?
Imagine he pans out and does become our franchise qb. Imagine Haden and Ward also reach their potential and grow from what they've already shown and start for the next 7 years. What a great draft 2010 would go down as for us.
Sure it's just imagining, but I like it!
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More yards and a better completion percentage than the "amazing" rapist. The int's weren't his fault and without the cheapshots on MoMass and Cribbs he would've thrown to 4 receivers instead of the 2 left.
Steelers excuse: Ben was rusty, really? how many NFL games has Colt played in his CAREER...yeah he wouldn't be rusty at all, I guess we all saw which guy put up better numbers.
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You don't want the rest of the players to feel that the season is being thrown away to get colt experience. But, if he plays well next week it might be tough to keep him off the field because the players might believe he is the best optipn to win.
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OK, I put in the second"no" vote. Let's not get all giddy Browns fans. Was that an impressive performance? Hell yes!!!! Um teams have tape on the Coltster now.
I'm not flat-out nixing the idea, but let's not get carried away. Assuming Wallace and Delhomme are still both crippled, I would let Colt start against the Saints- who have been playing far less impressive D than the Steelers- and THEN you evaluate where you want to go during the bye week.
OK, I put in the second"no" vote. Let's not get all giddy Browns fans. Was that an impressive performance? Hell yes!!!! Um teams have tape on the Coltster now.
I'm not flat-out nixing the idea, but let's not get carried away. Assuming Wallace and Delhomme are still both crippled, I would let Colt start against the Saints- who have been playing far less impressive D than the Steelers- and THEN you evaluate where you want to go during the bye week.
I'm excited as all hell! Why? Well his accuracy, poise, and arm strength are all there. Hopefully it wasn't a fluke for the entire game, but he did very well. The future is now, let him keep playing while he's in a grove. He needs are much experience as he can get.
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