black qbs lazy?
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What I'm saying I think everyone can relate to black or white..
As great as warren moon was and steve mcnair, there are douches like vince young and russel who are giving people a bad perception..
Shep put it best when saying we need the black peyton manning. You look at the top 10 qbs of all time and there won't be one black qb in there.
Perception eventually becomes reality
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The Real issue with Jamarcus Russell
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Raiders PhotosThe real issue with jamarcus Russell has nothing to do with his "weight" or "leadership" skills as we tend to hear on every major media outlet 1000 times a minute. I guess the idea that Black Qbs werent smart enough to play the position has played out. Even as we try to stray away from racism in the country, racist institutions like the NFL strive to pull us back in. Whether it is the double standard in punishment by the Grand Wizard Roger Goodell, (See Rothlisberger rape case) Or just plain old sabotage by the likes of Lane Kiffin, Mike Lombardi(see Moss trade) or Tom "blame it on Jamarcus" Cable. Black Qbs with no pryors go to prison for two years for dogfighting, which is generally not even punishable by Jail time in the state of Atlanta. They also have to languish in the inferior CFL for 10 years as their less talented white Qbs shine in the NFL. (See Warren Moon)
The real problem with Jamarcus is that he doesnt quite fit the "image" of what an NFL franchise is supposed to look like. Russell VS McNabb doesnt quite have the same ring(or offensive scheming) as say a Drew Brees Tom Brady matchup. Anyone with half a brain can see that white QBs generally have more talent and a FAR superior gameplan and playcalling. They tend to live on the underneath "Wes Welker" routes as oulets when the 35 seconds they have protected by a massive O-line to throw the bomb doesnt pan out.
When criticizing Russell, its rarely anything that has to do with football. Either he is too "lazy" or he is not a "leader." This is football guys. Not WW3. He is a pocket passer, therefore he shouldnt have to look like Adrian Peterson, who by the way has taken a backseat to the Vikings' resident white Jesus(Brett Favre) All he has to do is sit back and throw a ball. Which we all know he can do. It just might be smarter if he had more than two receivers at a time to throw to, like Tom Brady.
The real issue we have with Russell is that he is a 23 year old black kid who is making more money to play football than we will make in our entire lives. It bothers you that he gets to bling and wear fur coats. It bothers you that he is not depressed by your constant, hypocritical, racist criticism. He should be trying to kill himself like Vince Young last year. So what better way to punish him and Mr. Davis for this nonsense than to sabotage him with a supremely incompetent coach such as Cable, or Kiffin? Kiffin made us believe that Mclown, who doesnt even belong in the NFL, was better than Jamarcus too. Where is he now? This year our white savior who will redeem all our sins as Raider fans is Bruce Gradkowshit. He now gets to run the DRASTICALLY different offense that Jamarcus should have been running, and we will run the table on his back. Now we have another coaching controversy on our hands when Cable should have been fired long ago. So, in the words of the illustrious Public Enemy, "Dont believe the hype" Raider Nation. Cable is a snake. And Gradkowski belongs in the Wizard of Oz.
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The Real issue with Jamarcus Russell
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Raiders PhotosThe real issue with jamarcus Russell has nothing to do with his "weight" or "leadership" skills as we tend to hear on every major media outlet 1000 times a minute. I guess the idea that Black Qbs werent smart enough to play the position has played out. Even as we try to stray away from racism in the country, racist institutions like the NFL strive to pull us back in. Whether it is the double standard in punishment by the Grand Wizard Roger Goodell, (See Rothlisberger rape case) Or just plain old sabotage by the likes of Lane Kiffin, Mike Lombardi(see Moss trade) or Tom "blame it on Jamarcus" Cable. Black Qbs with no pryors go to prison for two years for dogfighting, which is generally not even punishable by Jail time in the state of Atlanta. They also have to languish in the inferior CFL for 10 years as their less talented white Qbs shine in the NFL. (See Warren Moon)
The real problem with Jamarcus is that he doesnt quite fit the "image" of what an NFL franchise is supposed to look like. Russell VS McNabb doesnt quite have the same ring(or offensive scheming) as say a Drew Brees Tom Brady matchup. Anyone with half a brain can see that white QBs generally have more talent and a FAR superior gameplan and playcalling. They tend to live on the underneath "Wes Welker" routes as oulets when the 35 seconds they have protected by a massive O-line to throw the bomb doesnt pan out.
When criticizing Russell, its rarely anything that has to do with football. Either he is too "lazy" or he is not a "leader." This is football guys. Not WW3. He is a pocket passer, therefore he shouldnt have to look like Adrian Peterson, who by the way has taken a backseat to the Vikings' resident white Jesus(Brett Favre) All he has to do is sit back and throw a ball. Which we all know he can do. It just might be smarter if he had more than two receivers at a time to throw to, like Tom Brady.
The real issue we have with Russell is that he is a 23 year old black kid who is making more money to play football than we will make in our entire lives. It bothers you that he gets to bling and wear fur coats. It bothers you that he is not depressed by your constant, hypocritical, racist criticism. He should be trying to kill himself like Vince Young last year. So what better way to punish him and Mr. Davis for this nonsense than to sabotage him with a supremely incompetent coach such as Cable, or Kiffin? Kiffin made us believe that Mclown, who doesnt even belong in the NFL, was better than Jamarcus too. Where is he now? This year our white savior who will redeem all our sins as Raider fans is Bruce Gradkowshit. He now gets to run the DRASTICALLY different offense that Jamarcus should have been running, and we will run the table on his back. Now we have another coaching controversy on our hands when Cable should have been fired long ago. So, in the words of the illustrious Public Enemy, "Dont believe the hype" Raider Nation. Cable is a snake. And Gradkowski belongs in the Wizard of Oz.
The Real issue with Jamarcus Russell
By Keilyn Ellis (Contributor) on December 7, 2009 515
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Raiders PhotosThe real issue with jamarcus Russell has nothing to do with his "weight" or "leadership" skills as we tend to hear on every major media outlet 1000 times a minute. I guess the idea that Black Qbs werent smart enough to play the position has played out. Even as we try to stray away from racism in the country, racist institutions like the NFL strive to pull us back in. Whether it is the double standard in punishment by the Grand Wizard Roger Goodell, (See Rothlisberger rape case) Or just plain old sabotage by the likes of Lane Kiffin, Mike Lombardi(see Moss trade) or Tom "blame it on Jamarcus" Cable. Black Qbs with no pryors go to prison for two years for dogfighting, which is generally not even punishable by Jail time in the state of Atlanta. They also have to languish in the inferior CFL for 10 years as their less talented white Qbs shine in the NFL. (See Warren Moon)
The real problem with Jamarcus is that he doesnt quite fit the "image" of what an NFL franchise is supposed to look like. Russell VS McNabb doesnt quite have the same ring(or offensive scheming) as say a Drew Brees Tom Brady matchup. Anyone with half a brain can see that white QBs generally have more talent and a FAR superior gameplan and playcalling. They tend to live on the underneath "Wes Welker" routes as oulets when the 35 seconds they have protected by a massive O-line to throw the bomb doesnt pan out.
When criticizing Russell, its rarely anything that has to do with football. Either he is too "lazy" or he is not a "leader." This is football guys. Not WW3. He is a pocket passer, therefore he shouldnt have to look like Adrian Peterson, who by the way has taken a backseat to the Vikings' resident white Jesus(Brett Favre) All he has to do is sit back and throw a ball. Which we all know he can do. It just might be smarter if he had more than two receivers at a time to throw to, like Tom Brady.
The real issue we have with Russell is that he is a 23 year old black kid who is making more money to play football than we will make in our entire lives. It bothers you that he gets to bling and wear fur coats. It bothers you that he is not depressed by your constant, hypocritical, racist criticism. He should be trying to kill himself like Vince Young last year. So what better way to punish him and Mr. Davis for this nonsense than to sabotage him with a supremely incompetent coach such as Cable, or Kiffin? Kiffin made us believe that Mclown, who doesnt even belong in the NFL, was better than Jamarcus too. Where is he now? This year our white savior who will redeem all our sins as Raider fans is Bruce Gradkowshit. He now gets to run the DRASTICALLY different offense that Jamarcus should have been running, and we will run the table on his back. Now we have another coaching controversy on our hands when Cable should have been fired long ago. So, in the words of the illustrious Public Enemy, "Dont believe the hype" Raider Nation. Cable is a snake. And Gradkowski belongs in the Wizard of Oz.
This article did not make any sense.
THE STATE OF ATLANTA??? im not racist but this guys just digging that hole deeper...
Also, being "lazy" and "not a leader" acually does have a huge impact on the QB position who is supposed to LEAD the team, preferably BY EXAMPLE.
Not trying to imply anything, but why is it that the NFL is dominated by white QBs? (and dont give an example of how well Vick or Garrard are doing thisyear because thats simply anecdotal)
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I wouldnt neccescarly say lazy but when you come from where some of the worst ghettos in america and get paid a ton of money you more than doubtly have to know how to make the right decisions with it, you can ethier cash in and say i made it im cool, continue to work hard because you love the sport NOT THE MONEY, not to mention alot of the influences has to do with the people they surrond there selfs with growing up in a poverty stricken neighborhood you still have those bad assiocates who can make you fall from where youve gone in life
I wouldnt neccescarly say lazy but when you come from where some of the worst ghettos in america and get paid a ton of money you more than doubtly have to know how to make the right decisions with it, you can ethier cash in and say i made it im cool, continue to work hard because you love the sport NOT THE MONEY, not to mention alot of the influences has to do with the people they surrond there selfs with growing up in a poverty stricken neighborhood you still have those bad assiocates who can make you fall from where youve gone in life
not all black qbs come from "the ghetto" and laziness is something that alot of people are guilty of, in sports and elsewhere in life. as someone pointed out earlier in this thread, people repeat certain terms that they've been programmed to believe in after hearing it referred to a specific people for so long. that in itself is laziness because it shows that someone is too lazy to actually think for themselves and they just rely on "what they heard through the grapevine".
in regards to the black qb, i fault alot of highschool and college coaches for not taking the time to develop them. how many coaches, like jim tressell, actually try to get their qbs to develop into passers and limit their rushing yds? most coaches are just trying to win a game instead of taking the time to develop them (which could lead to losses during the course of their qbs development). they just let that qb run around and use his athleticism to make a play instead of making him learn to be a legit passer and see if he actually has what it takes to even be a qb. they can get away with all of that running around in highschool and possibly college, but that isn't going to work in the nfl.
it's a systematic mindset that people have towards black qbs. i'm not saying this is the whole problem, but it's a big part of it.
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What I'm saying I think everyone can relate to black or white..
As great as warren moon was and steve mcnair, there are douches like vince young and russel who are giving people a bad perception..
Shep put it best when saying we need the black peyton manning. You look at the top 10 qbs of all time and there won't be one black qb in there.
Perception eventually becomes reality
Perception eventually becomes reality
perception should never become reality unless what is perceived is actually investigated and proven to be 100% truth. relying soley on what you heard, read or how something appears to be instead of going beneath the surface to see how it really is, is simply thinking inside of the box and allowing others to do the thinking for you.
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The Real issue with Jamarcus Russell
By Keilyn Ellis (Contributor) on December 7, 2009 515
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Raiders PhotosThe real issue with jamarcus Russell has nothing to do with his "weight" or "leadership" skills as we tend to hear on every major media outlet 1000 times a minute. I guess the idea that Black Qbs werent smart enough to play the position has played out. Even as we try to stray away from racism in the country, racist institutions like the NFL strive to pull us back in. Whether it is the double standard in punishment by the Grand Wizard Roger Goodell, (See Rothlisberger rape case) Or just plain old sabotage by the likes of Lane Kiffin, Mike Lombardi(see Moss trade) or Tom "blame it on Jamarcus" Cable. Black Qbs with no pryors go to prison for two years for dogfighting, which is generally not even punishable by Jail time in the state of Atlanta. They also have to languish in the inferior CFL for 10 years as their less talented white Qbs shine in the NFL. (See Warren Moon)
The real problem with Jamarcus is that he doesnt quite fit the "image" of what an NFL franchise is supposed to look like. Russell VS McNabb doesnt quite have the same ring(or offensive scheming) as say a Drew Brees Tom Brady matchup. Anyone with half a brain can see that white QBs generally have more talent and a FAR superior gameplan and playcalling. They tend to live on the underneath "Wes Welker" routes as oulets when the 35 seconds they have protected by a massive O-line to throw the bomb doesnt pan out.
When criticizing Russell, its rarely anything that has to do with football. Either he is too "lazy" or he is not a "leader." This is football guys. Not WW3. He is a pocket passer, therefore he shouldnt have to look like Adrian Peterson, who by the way has taken a backseat to the Vikings' resident white Jesus(Brett Favre) All he has to do is sit back and throw a ball. Which we all know he can do. It just might be smarter if he had more than two receivers at a time to throw to, like Tom Brady.
The real issue we have with Russell is that he is a 23 year old black kid who is making more money to play football than we will make in our entire lives. It bothers you that he gets to bling and wear fur coats. It bothers you that he is not depressed by your constant, hypocritical, racist criticism. He should be trying to kill himself like Vince Young last year. So what better way to punish him and Mr. Davis for this nonsense than to sabotage him with a supremely incompetent coach such as Cable, or Kiffin? Kiffin made us believe that Mclown, who doesnt even belong in the NFL, was better than Jamarcus too. Where is he now? This year our white savior who will redeem all our sins as Raider fans is Bruce Gradkowshit. He now gets to run the DRASTICALLY different offense that Jamarcus should have been running, and we will run the table on his back. Now we have another coaching controversy on our hands when Cable should have been fired long ago. So, in the words of the illustrious Public Enemy, "Dont believe the hype" Raider Nation. Cable is a snake. And Gradkowski belongs in the Wizard of Oz.
The Real issue with Jamarcus Russell
By Keilyn Ellis (Contributor) on December 7, 2009 515
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Raiders PhotosThe real issue with jamarcus Russell has nothing to do with his "weight" or "leadership" skills as we tend to hear on every major media outlet 1000 times a minute. I guess the idea that Black Qbs werent smart enough to play the position has played out. Even as we try to stray away from racism in the country, racist institutions like the NFL strive to pull us back in. Whether it is the double standard in punishment by the Grand Wizard Roger Goodell, (See Rothlisberger rape case) Or just plain old sabotage by the likes of Lane Kiffin, Mike Lombardi(see Moss trade) or Tom "blame it on Jamarcus" Cable. Black Qbs with no pryors go to prison for two years for dogfighting, which is generally not even punishable by Jail time in the state of Atlanta. They also have to languish in the inferior CFL for 10 years as their less talented white Qbs shine in the NFL. (See Warren Moon)
The real problem with Jamarcus is that he doesnt quite fit the "image" of what an NFL franchise is supposed to look like. Russell VS McNabb doesnt quite have the same ring(or offensive scheming) as say a Drew Brees Tom Brady matchup. Anyone with half a brain can see that white QBs generally have more talent and a FAR superior gameplan and playcalling. They tend to live on the underneath "Wes Welker" routes as oulets when the 35 seconds they have protected by a massive O-line to throw the bomb doesnt pan out.
When criticizing Russell, its rarely anything that has to do with football. Either he is too "lazy" or he is not a "leader." This is football guys. Not WW3. He is a pocket passer, therefore he shouldnt have to look like Adrian Peterson, who by the way has taken a backseat to the Vikings' resident white Jesus(Brett Favre) All he has to do is sit back and throw a ball. Which we all know he can do. It just might be smarter if he had more than two receivers at a time to throw to, like Tom Brady.
The real issue we have with Russell is that he is a 23 year old black kid who is making more money to play football than we will make in our entire lives. It bothers you that he gets to bling and wear fur coats. It bothers you that he is not depressed by your constant, hypocritical, racist criticism. He should be trying to kill himself like Vince Young last year. So what better way to punish him and Mr. Davis for this nonsense than to sabotage him with a supremely incompetent coach such as Cable, or Kiffin? Kiffin made us believe that Mclown, who doesnt even belong in the NFL, was better than Jamarcus too. Where is he now? This year our white savior who will redeem all our sins as Raider fans is Bruce Gradkowshit. He now gets to run the DRASTICALLY different offense that Jamarcus should have been running, and we will run the table on his back. Now we have another coaching controversy on our hands when Cable should have been fired long ago. So, in the words of the illustrious Public Enemy, "Dont believe the hype" Raider Nation. Cable is a snake. And Gradkowski belongs in the Wizard of Oz.
maybe we should be talking about lazy black journalists that can't spend two seconds and use spellcheck before posting their gibberish. tell me who comes off as racist after reading this guy's 'contributing' article?
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I'm not saying I think there lazy.
What I'm saying is what the media portrays.
You here stuff mcnab wasn't in shape to run the 2 minute drill
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I'd rather have all those QB's than Roethlisberger...................
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I'm just raising the qusetion? Is it the media or are black qbs lazy?
You hear things about vince young being a 9 to 5 guy. With jamarcus russell being a fat slob and vick admitting to cheating the falcons.. I'm sure there are white qbs, ala ryan leaf, but it seems like every time a black qb sturggles it is because he doesn't put the time in.
I'm just raising the qusetion? Is it the media or are black qbs lazy?
You hear things about vince young being a 9 to 5 guy. With jamarcus russell being a fat slob and vick admitting to cheating the falcons.. I'm sure there are white qbs, ala ryan leaf, but it seems like every time a black qb sturggles it is because he doesn't put the time in.
WOW... I heard the word "Cracker" tossed around earlier... Are you serious man ?
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Bump of thread because of excellent post.
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This thread is stupid beyond belief.
We have had Black QBs that have been the heart and soul of their franchises for over a decade (Moon, McNair, McNabb)
We have had white QBs that were not only lazy but quitters and malcontenets (Ryan Leaf, Drew Henson, Billy Volek, Jeff George)
Laziness is not a characteristic of skin color.
Let's ramp it up a little bit around here, this thread is embarrasing.
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After I read this thread title I immediately thought one thing: who washes you're sheet for you WRREBEL?
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The average lazy black qb is still more athletic than 98% of white qbs.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
I visit this board as a diversion. It allows me a moment when I can forget about all those stressors of life that we experience more often than not; family, work, relationships, money, career, retirement, whatever.
I not convinced that race relations has it's place in a sport forum. I get a lot more satisfaction reading smack about pissburgh or what the Brown's need to do to win more ballgames. Leave the race topic to
20-20, 60 Minutes and all those other serious? journalistic forums. JMHO
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