Nice win!!
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Despite how ugly the game might have been, the fact is that the Browns played with alot of heart and managed to pull off a win against the 5th ranked defense in the league on the road. Joe Haden had an outstanding game and as usual Phil Dawson is my hero. GO BROWNS!!!
Despite how ugly the game might have been, the fact is that the Browns played with alot of heart and managed to pull off a win against the 5th ranked defense in the league on the road. Joe Haden had an outstanding game and as usual Phil Dawson is my hero. GO BROWNS!!!
Agreed! After losing 3 different QBs to bad ankles, 1 new starter on the right side of the oline virtually every week, Scott Fujita (arguably an x-factor), Robaire Smith, and the highest paid punter (Zastudil) to make 3 consecutive IRs - we're not a point in transition to care about pretty wins. Talented teams know the Browns are strong at RB and the strength of our passing game is the TE position. Miami didn't cover the TE for some reason. The Daboll critics seem to think we've got terrific WRs our OC doesn't know about. Then again, aren't Peyton Hillis and Ben Watson having career years? That's 2 less pawns to attack with and when we deep 6 a couple more pawns in lieu of legit attack pieces - it's gonna be a fun team to play chess with on Sundays. To be honest, Cribbs has 4 dislocated toes so he's not really the playmaker we've been accustomed to seeing on game days either.
As far as the passing game goes, Daboll isn't exactly choosing between Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Brent Jones with Joe Montana behind center. You don't have to get tricky or deceptive or remain patient when you have those kinds of pass game choices every play. With the Browns, the OC does have stay within WHAT the offense is especially in close games. Remember the 14 point swings of pic 6s vrs KC (loss by 2 points), vrs Atlanta (close game) vrs TB (Barber got tackled on the Cleve 2 yard = pic 6 IMO). Sometimes it's GOOD to stay within yourself and win field position. When we get a series of good drafts in succession, then we can be like the NY Jets. This didn't just happen overnight for them. Last year they were all about the RBs and TE. Now they added Holmes so they have something reliable deep and wide.
If we're searching for things that are pretty right now?
1) No pic 6s from our starting QB or turnovers from our ofense in a close ballgame
2) Joe Haden was everywhere; and he notched another INT
3) The defense had some clutch turnovers
4) Another Michigan QB was rendered miserable by an Ohio Team
5) Eric Wright didn't play enough to look like Santa Claus for the opponent
6) Tackling was much improved
7) The minimum waged Punter (Hodges) - continued to show why he leads the league with punts inside the 10 yard line. Quiet, clutch and happy to be needed is refreshingly right for us.
The much maligned Abe Elam has continued to make plays (recently) ever since causing that fumble at the 1 yard line vrs NE. We'll take that INT yesterday - won't we? 9) The little things like not starting drives with 1st and 15 or 1st and 20 or stupid penalties on defense that converted 3rd downs to first downs for the opponent. Those add up in 60 minutes.
Game balls go to Jake Delhomme, Joe Haden, Reggie Hodges and whoever broke Roethlisberger's nose.
- Tom F. (Ya'all get high 5s in this thread - winning is an endorphin rush!)
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Despite how ugly the game might have been, the fact is that the Browns played with alot of heart and managed to pull off a win against the 5th ranked defense in the league on the road. Joe Haden had an outstanding game and as usual Phil Dawson is my hero. GO BROWNS!!!
Agreed! After losing 3 different QBs to bad ankles, 1 new starter on the right side of the oline virtually every week, Scott Fujita (arguably an x-factor), Robaire Smith, and the highest paid punter (Zastudil) to make 3 consecutive IRs - we're not a point in transition to care about pretty wins. Talented teams know the Browns are strong at RB and the strength of our passing game is the TE position. Miami didn't cover the TE for some reason. The Daboll critics seem to think we've got terrific WRs our OC doesn't know about. Then again, aren't Peyton Hillis and Ben Watson having career years? That's 2 less pawns to attack with and when we deep 6 a couple more pawns in lieu of legit attack pieces - it's gonna be a fun team to play chess with on Sundays. To be honest, Cribbs has 4 dislocated toes so he's not really the playmaker we've been accustomed to seeing on game days either.
As far as the passing game goes, Daboll isn't exactly choosing between Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Brent Jones with Joe Montana behind center. You don't have to get tricky or deceptive or remain patient when you have those kinds of pass game choices every play. With the Browns, the OC does have stay within WHAT the offense is especially in close games. Remember the 14 point swings of pic 6s vrs KC (loss by 2 points), vrs Atlanta (close game) vrs TB (Barber got tackled on the Cleve 2 yard = pic 6 IMO). Sometimes it's GOOD to stay within yourself and win field position. When we get a series of good drafts in succession, then we can be like the NY Jets. This didn't just happen overnight for them. Last year they were all about the RBs and TE. Now they added Holmes so they have something reliable deep and wide.
If we're searching for things that are pretty right now?
1) No pic 6s from our starting QB or turnovers from our ofense in a close ballgame
2) Joe Haden was everywhere; and he notched another INT
3) The defense had some clutch turnovers
4) Another Michigan QB was rendered miserable by an Ohio Team
5) Eric Wright didn't play enough to look like Santa Claus for the opponent
6) Tackling was much improved
7) The minimum waged Punter (Hodges) - continued to show why he leads the league with punts inside the 10 yard line. Quiet, clutch and happy to be needed is refreshingly right for us.
The much maligned Abe Elam has continued to make plays (recently) ever since causing that fumble at the 1 yard line vrs NE. We'll take that INT yesterday - won't we? 9) The little things like not starting drives with 1st and 15 or 1st and 20 or stupid penalties on defense that converted 3rd downs to first downs for the opponent. Those add up in 60 minutes.
Game balls go to Jake Delhomme, Joe Haden, Reggie Hodges and whoever broke Roethlisberger's nose.
- Tom F. (Ya'all get high 5s in this thread - winning is an endorphin rush!)
Agreed! After losing 3 different QBs to bad ankles, 1 new starter on the right side of the oline virtually every week, Scott Fujita (arguably an x-factor), Robaire Smith, and the highest paid punter (Zastudil) to make 3 consecutive IRs - we're not a point in transition to care about pretty wins. Talented teams know the Browns are strong at RB and the strength of our passing game is the TE position. Miami didn't cover the TE for some reason. The Daboll critics seem to think we've got terrific WRs our OC doesn't know about. Then again, aren't Peyton Hillis and Ben Watson having career years? That's 2 less pawns to attack with and when we deep 6 a couple more pawns in lieu of legit attack pieces - it's gonna be a fun team to play chess with on Sundays. To be honest, Cribbs has 4 dislocated toes so he's not really the playmaker we've been accustomed to seeing on game days either.
As far as the passing game goes, Daboll isn't exactly choosing between Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Brent Jones with Joe Montana behind center. You don't have to get tricky or deceptive or remain patient when you have those kinds of pass game choices every play. With the Browns, the OC does have stay within WHAT the offense is especially in close games. Remember the 14 point swings of pic 6s vrs KC (loss by 2 points), vrs Atlanta (close game) vrs TB (Barber got tackled on the Cleve 2 yard = pic 6 IMO). Sometimes it's GOOD to stay within yourself and win field position. When we get a series of good drafts in succession, then we can be like the NY Jets. This didn't just happen overnight for them. Last year they were all about the RBs and TE. Now they added Holmes so they have something reliable deep and wide.
If we're searching for things that are pretty right now?
1) No pic 6s from our starting QB or turnovers from our ofense in a close ballgame
2) Joe Haden was everywhere; and he notched another INT
3) The defense had some clutch turnovers
4) Another Michigan QB was rendered miserable by an Ohio Team
5) Eric Wright didn't play enough to look like Santa Claus for the opponent
6) Tackling was much improved
7) The minimum waged Punter (Hodges) - continued to show why he leads the league with punts inside the 10 yard line. Quiet, clutch and happy to be needed is refreshingly right for us.
The much maligned Abe Elam has continued to make plays (recently) ever since causing that fumble at the 1 yard line vrs NE. We'll take that INT yesterday - won't we? 9) The little things like not starting drives with 1st and 15 or 1st and 20 or stupid penalties on defense that converted 3rd downs to first downs for the opponent. Those add up in 60 minutes.
Game balls go to Jake Delhomme, Joe Haden, Reggie Hodges and whoever broke Roethlisberger's nose.
- Tom F. (Ya'all get high 5s in this thread - winning is an endorphin rush!)
Good post Flugs! Nice to see you posting here again.
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i still can't believe that we made positive adjustments at halftime. when we completed that 90+ yd drive for the TD, i had a feeling that we were going to win.
does chad henne remind anybody else of tim couch out there?
i still can't believe that we made positive adjustments at halftime. when we completed that 90+ yd drive for the TD, i had a feeling that we were going to win.
does chad henne remind anybody else of tim couch out there?
I was never much of a Henne fan, and got a lot of hate mail for wishing that Couch was gone after year two, samo about not liking Brady Quinn. Delhomme is done and kaput.
But we do have the real McCoy whom I wanted to draft and have always liked. Nice win with a washed up QB. Browns are on the move
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i still can't believe that we made positive adjustments at halftime. when we completed that 90+ yd drive for the TD, i had a feeling that we were going to win.
does chad henne remind anybody else of tim couch out there?
i still can't believe that we made positive adjustments at halftime. when we completed that 90+ yd drive for the TD, i had a feeling that we were going to win.
does chad henne remind anybody else of tim couch out there?
No. Couch was never that bad.
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I thought delhomme played a great game yesterday 24/34 against a good defense and pass rush. I really like Colt though and just want to see him play in a bad weather game to make sure he has the arm for it.
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I think one of the biggest things about a team turning the corner is seeing a team finding ways to WIN close games, and get the breaks needed to do so. Sometimes you can call it "luck", but I think you guys know what I mean. A team missing a field goal, "luck" if you will, or a good defensive play leading to a turnover like we've seen the last two weeks is a good example of what i'm talking about. I mean obviously having good players and coaches is the most important thing, but seeing these things happen is really important IMO too
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Despite how ugly the game might have been, the fact is that the Browns played with alot of heart and managed to pull off a win against the 5th ranked defense in the league on the road. Joe Haden had an outstanding game and as usual Phil Dawson is my hero. GO BROWNS!!!
Agreed! After losing 3 different QBs to bad ankles, 1 new starter on the right side of the oline virtually every week, Scott Fujita (arguably an x-factor), Robaire Smith, and the highest paid punter (Zastudil) to make 3 consecutive IRs - we're not a point in transition to care about pretty wins. Talented teams know the Browns are strong at RB and the strength of our passing game is the TE position. Miami didn't cover the TE for some reason. The Daboll critics seem to think we've got terrific WRs our OC doesn't know about. Then again, aren't Peyton Hillis and Ben Watson having career years? That's 2 less pawns to attack with and when we deep 6 a couple more pawns in lieu of legit attack pieces - it's gonna be a fun team to play chess with on Sundays. To be honest, Cribbs has 4 dislocated toes so he's not really the playmaker we've been accustomed to seeing on game days either.
As far as the passing game goes, Daboll isn't exactly choosing between Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, John Taylor, Brent Jones with Joe Montana behind center. You don't have to get tricky or deceptive or remain patient when you have those kinds of pass game choices every play. With the Browns, the OC does have stay within WHAT the offense is especially in close games. Remember the 14 point swings of pic 6s vrs KC (loss by 2 points), vrs Atlanta (close game) vrs TB (Barber got tackled on the Cleve 2 yard = pic 6 IMO). Sometimes it's GOOD to stay within yourself and win field position. When we get a series of good drafts in succession, then we can be like the NY Jets. This didn't just happen overnight for them. Last year they were all about the RBs and TE. Now they added Holmes so they have something reliable deep and wide.
If we're searching for things that are pretty right now?
1) No pic 6s from our starting QB or turnovers from our ofense in a close ballgame
2) Joe Haden was everywhere; and he notched another INT
3) The defense had some clutch turnovers
4) Another Michigan QB was rendered miserable by an Ohio Team
5) Eric Wright didn't play enough to look like Santa Claus for the opponent
6) Tackling was much improved
7) The minimum waged Punter (Hodges) - continued to show why he leads the league with punts inside the 10 yard line. Quiet, clutch and happy to be needed is refreshingly right for us.
The much maligned Abe Elam has continued to make plays (recently) ever since causing that fumble at the 1 yard line vrs NE. We'll take that INT yesterday - won't we? 9) The little things like not starting drives with 1st and 15 or 1st and 20 or stupid penalties on defense that converted 3rd downs to first downs for the opponent. Those add up in 60 minutes.
Game balls go to Jake Delhomme, Joe Haden, Reggie Hodges and whoever broke Roethlisberger's nose.
- Tom F. (Ya'all get high 5s in this thread - winning is an endorphin rush!)
1) No pic 6s from our starting QB or turnovers from our ofense in a close ballgame
2) Joe Haden was everywhere; and he notched another INT
3) The defense had some clutch turnovers
4) Another Michigan QB was rendered miserable by an Ohio Team
5) Eric Wright didn't play enough to look like Santa Claus for the opponent
6) Tackling was much improved
7) The minimum waged Punter (Hodges) - continued to show why he leads the league with punts inside the 10 yard line. Quiet, clutch and happy to be needed is refreshingly right for us.
The much maligned Abe Elam has continued to make plays (recently) ever since causing that fumble at the 1 yard line vrs NE. We'll take that INT yesterday - won't we? 9) The little things like not starting drives with 1st and 15 or 1st and 20 or stupid penalties on defense that converted 3rd downs to first downs for the opponent. Those add up in 60 minutes.
Game balls go to Jake Delhomme, Joe Haden, Reggie Hodges and whoever broke Roethlisberger's nose.
- Tom F. (Ya'all get high 5s in this thread - winning is an endorphin rush!)
Good to see you back Tom. Don't be a stranger.
IMHO, if the Browns can duplicate the 2010 draft and pick up a few decent FA's (they'll actually want to come to Cleveland now), this team can make some serious noise in 2011. We're a stud pass rusher, wr, and decent RT away. The rest can be filled in with complimentary parts.
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I thought delhomme played a great game yesterday 24/34 against a good defense and pass rush. I really like Colt though and just want to see him play in a bad weather game to make sure he has the arm for it.
I thought delhomme played a great game yesterday 24/34 against a good defense and pass rush. I really like Colt though and just want to see him play in a bad weather game to make sure he has the arm for it.
Can not agree anymore with what you said. The last 4 games of the season are the ones I really wanted to see Colt play not only do they all have a real good chance for bad weather but 3 division games and 2 that will have a playoff implications/atmosphere. To bad he got hurt.
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
I would also like to see Colt in a bad weather game, but unless Delhomme gets injured again I just don't see it happening for the following reasons.
1: Delhomme just came back in after a lengthy injury and got us 2 wins in a row
2: The plan was to avoid playing Colt at all this year
3: This one is lame, but we are paying Jake alot of money, might as well not waste it if he can prove he can win against a top 5 defense, even if it is scary as hell to watch
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Toward the end of the game, I was hoping they would place the ball in Chad Henne's hands - I don't think he's EVER beaten a team from O-H-I-O!!!
"Chad Henne is a joke, a m#%@ f@#$% joke!"
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I thought delhomme played a great game yesterday 24/34 against a good defense and pass rush. I really like Colt though and just want to see him play in a bad weather game to make sure he has the arm for it.
Can not agree anymore with what you said. The last 4 games of the season are the ones I really wanted to see Colt play not only do they all have a real good chance for bad weather but 3 division games and 2 that will have a playoff implications/atmosphere. To bad he got hurt.
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Can not agree anymore with what you said. The last 4 games of the season are the ones I really wanted to see Colt play not only do they all have a real good chance for bad weather but 3 division games and 2 that will have a playoff implications/atmosphere. To bad he got hurt.
This is true, the Club Med part of the schedule is over. A game in Buffalo, a game on the shores of the Ohio River in Cinci, and two games on the shore of Lake Erie. If these aren't Peyton Hillis/Joe Thomas type games I don't know what is.
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I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty.
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