You need Cowher

Harry Buffalo

No one gives a shit about your opinion. Mangini is more than likely going to stay and if he is gone Holmgren sure as shit isn't going to hire anyone that you mentioned other than maybe Ryan.

I love how none fans try to come one here and say how things are going to go down. Go to your own xxxxing board.

WRREBEL

Cowher is going to Carolina!

Besidesm Gruden will be the browns next coach!

hillis4mayor1

Mangini is gone, You cannot lose to the buffalo bills! If Gruden was the Head Coach he may have put in Seneca Wallace and we actually could have won the Game. Man-Gina doesn't make half-time adjustments! Gruden grew up a browns fan, and my inside information is that he will be the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns!

WRREBEL

@hillis4mayor1 said:
Mangini is gone, You cannot lose to the buffalo bills! If Gruden was the Head Coach he may have put in Seneca Wallace and we actually could have won the Game. Man-Gina doesn't make half-time adjustments! Gruden grew up a browns fan, and my inside information is that he will be the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns!

true, plus the Browns need a face of the franchise.. What better then chuckie!

sorry jack, chuckies back!

Vagitron

Bill Cowher will never coach the Browns. He'll be a highly desired Coach, he's not going to Coach a Steeler rival.

pizzadeliveryguy

@hillis4mayor1 said:
my inside information

lofl

hoorta

Homotron said:
Bill Cowher will never coach the Browns. He'll be a highly desired Coach, he's not going to Coach a Steeler rival.

Correct- IF Cowher decides to coach again, it's going to be Carolina or nothing.

It's too bad some of the can the coach fanatics can't see past the crying need for stability here. Oh I'm sure Gruden is likely a closet Browns fan- grew up in Sandusky and went to the University of Dayton. But if you look at his overall coaching record, it's far from stellar. Two great seasons- one with the Raiders, and one with Tampa. The rest is pretty mediocre.

To our inside info guy- You know someone who knows someone who lives on Gruden's dad's street, and he said.........

Pumpkin Eater

Who gives a shit what you think.

Btw, no one waits until halftime to make adjustments. The entire game is a chess match between both sidelines.

Vagitron

@hoorta said:
Correct- IF Cowher decides to coach again, it's going to be Carolina or nothing.
It's too bad some of the can the coach fanatics can't see past the crying need for stability here. Oh I'm sure Gruden is likely a closet Browns fan- grew up in Sandusky and went to the University of Dayton. But if you look at his overall coaching record, it's far from stellar. Two great seasons- one with the Raiders, and one with Tampa. The rest is pretty mediocre.

To our inside info guy- You know someone who knows someone who lives on Gruden's dad's street, and he said.........

If Gruden is anything he's a great motivator. He's had his fair share of success and I think he'd be good for the Browns. Mangini is lifeless on the sideline. I'm not saying he's a putz but he's also not a Coach I'd be excited about. I doubt Holmgren will come out of the sky box and hit the sideline again and honestly I think that's better for the Browns. Let him do his thing behind the scenes and bring in a guy that can light a fire. Gruden is that guy. The Browns just need to hit on their first and second round picks and get good project guys. You hit on a couple guys this past draft. Every one of the Steelers rookies are seeing time outside of Butler and he's at least dressing. It's the difference right now, despite top tier talent levels at certain key positions. The AFC North is already a slug fest, it's only going to get more nasty.

BendMeOver

Gruden would be an improvement, but I'm not sure he's a fit for the AFC North. The biggest problem with Gruden is his inability to work with sub-standard QBs. He gets a good QB in there, you'll fly high for a season or two. Cowher has a proven track record of making winning seasons with substandard QB material. He gets up on teams by 11 or more points and it's lights out. You've already got a key piece to make Cowher successful, i.e. Hillis.

Cowher will be expensive, no doubt. You'll have to offer him some insane contract offer to get him there (over 10 million/yr), but it can be done. If he wants to coach, whether or not he respects the Rooneys, you offer him enough, he'll be there.

Cowher will bring you a winner. He is the best coach on the market.

Note: Gruden's never been very good at beating the Steelers, so if that's who you want, I'm all for it.

Vagitron

Endymion said:
Gruden would be an improvement, but I'm not sure he's a fit for the AFC North. The biggest problem with Gruden is his inability to work with sub-standard QBs. He gets a good QB in there, you'll fly high for a season or two. Cowher has a proven track record of making winning seasons with substandard QB material. He gets up on teams by 11 or more points and it's lights out. You've already got a key piece to make Cowher successful, i.e. Hillis.
Cowher will be expensive, no doubt. You'll have to offer him some insane contract offer to get him there (over 10 million/yr), but it can be done. If he wants to coach, whether or not he respects the Rooneys, you offer him enough, he'll be there.

Cowher will bring you a winner. He is the best coach on the market.

Note: Gruden's never been very good at beating the Steelers, so if that's who you want, I'm all for it.

Cowher will not coach the Browns or any other team in the AFC North. Period. You could offer the man the sun and the moon and he's not going to Coach a Steeler rival. He'd stay with his analyst gig if that's the case. Carolina is his most likely landing spot.