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Its like the Temple of Doom. But instead of the three stones its three gruden bobbleheads. - and Mangini is there and a guy with a chucky mask goes "KALI MAH" and tears his heart out..
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Relatedly, Richard Dietch published his 2010 sports media awards at Sports Illustrated, and had a word for John Gruden in distinguishing Cris Collinsworth as one of his two Announcers of the Year:
Collinsworth remains the best in the class of ex-players-turned-NFL analysts because his opinions carry the objectivity of a man not beholden to the league apparatus. He’s also not fanatically smitten with certain players (Yes, I’m talking to you, Jon Gruden) or the institution of football.
Just more evidence that John Gruden is a babbling sycophant. We’ll just add that a lack of integrity and intelligence is a lack of integrity and intelligence whether it’s in the announcer’s booth or on the sidelines.
DERPLOOKDERP HE’S SO PASSIONATE. SO INTENSE. SUPERBOWLRINNNGDERRRP.
#REALFACTSOFHISTORY: No Super Bowl-winning coach has ever won a Super Bowl with a second team.
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mikeyP72 said:
Here I'll save you the trouble of linking you:"Written by Mikey P:
Jon Gruden is not coming to Cleveland.
End."
There.
I wonder who is going to come to cleveland if holmgren dont coach and gruden wont coach in Clowntown?
Minus a few exceptions almost anyone is better than mangini...
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Oprah, barbera walters and ur wife.
U have to kill one, xxxx one and marry one... go!
Okay, that was funny.
Gruden has a better career winning percentage than 28 of the 32 current coaches. He won a Super Bowl and made the Raiders relevant for a short while. He went to the playoffs six times. Mangini isn't in that zip code yet, no matter how much you like him, guys. He may get there, but he isn't even in the conversation at the moment.
And Holmgren dwarfs both of them in more ways than one (!).
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Relatedly, Richard Dietch published his 2010 sports media awards at Sports Illustrated, and had a word for John Gruden in distinguishing Cris Collinsworth as one of his two Announcers of the Year:
Collinsworth remains the best in the class of ex-players-turned-NFL analysts because his opinions carry the objectivity of a man not beholden to the league apparatus. He’s also not fanatically smitten with certain players (Yes, I’m talking to you, Jon Gruden) or the institution of football.
Just more evidence that John Gruden is a babbling sycophant. We’ll just add that a lack of integrity and intelligence is a lack of integrity and intelligence whether it’s in the announcer’s booth or on the sidelines.
DERPLOOKDERP HE’S SO PASSIONATE. SO INTENSE. SUPERBOWLRINNNGDERRRP.
#REALFACTSOFHISTORY: No Super Bowl-winning coach has ever won a Super Bowl with a second team.
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Relatedly, Richard Dietch published his 2010 sports media awards at Sports Illustrated, and had a word for John Gruden in distinguishing Cris Collinsworth as one of his two Announcers of the Year:
Collinsworth remains the best in the class of ex-players-turned-NFL analysts because his opinions carry the objectivity of a man not beholden to the league apparatus. He’s also not fanatically smitten with certain players (Yes, I’m talking to you, Jon Gruden) or the institution of football.
Just more evidence that John Gruden is a babbling sycophant. We’ll just add that a lack of integrity and intelligence is a lack of integrity and intelligence whether it’s in the announcer’s booth or on the sidelines.
DERPLOOKDERP HE’S SO PASSIONATE. SO INTENSE. SUPERBOWLRINNNGDERRRP.
#REALFACTSOFHISTORY: No Super Bowl-winning coach has ever won a Super Bowl with a second team.
So Passionate, Intense and FIERY. Whoopee. Let's look at the Coaches in the HOF. George Halas, Paul Brown, Bud Grant, Chuck Noll, Don Shula, John Madden, Marv Levy, Tom Landry, Al Davis, Joe Gibbs, Vince Lombardi, Sid Gillman, Curly Lambeau, Steve Owen, Hank Stram, Bill Walsh. (Bill Belichick is a mortal lock once he hangs 'em up)
Now Lambeau and Owen I can't comment on because they were before my time- I've seen all the rest. How many FIERY guys on that list? Lombardi, Stram, Madden, maybe a couple others. At least an equal number of the stoic types Landry, Levy, Walsh, and Bill B.
Point is this isn't high school ball, where you have to spit in a guy's face like Bill Cowher to fire guys up- these guys are pros- they know when they screwed up.
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Oprah, barbera walters and ur wife.
U have to kill one, xxxx one and marry one... go!
Okay, that was funny.
Gruden has a better career winning percentage than 28 of the 32 current coaches. He won a Super Bowl and made the Raiders relevant for a short while. He went to the playoffs six times. Mangini isn't in that zip code yet, no matter how much you like him, guys. He may get there, but he isn't even in the conversation at the moment.
And Holmgren dwarfs both of them in more ways than one (!).
Okay, that was funny.
Gruden has a better career winning percentage than 28 of the 32 current coaches. He won a Super Bowl and made the Raiders relevant for a short while. He went to the playoffs six times. Mangini isn't in that zip code yet, no matter how much you like him, guys. He may get there, but he isn't even in the conversation at the moment.
And Holmgren dwarfs both of them in more ways than one (!).
Shep, agreed about Gruden. And agreed about Mangini. However, as I pointed out there's scary similarities to Belichick's first five years of coaching to Mangini's.
What's irking a bunch of us off is posters acting like Gruden is the ONLY option. I doubt I'd get a favorable reaction if I thew up a half dozen threads and a hundred posts saying AJ Green is the Bomb in the 2011 draft.
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Lets set the record straight!
First off before I started JOKING around about Gruden, I was attacked by the Mangini minions. I was called many names for saying what is obvious (to me).
Then I threw out the name of Gruden, cause I felt he was a good fit and 1000 TIMES better than mangini. Again, I was called many names for my opinion.
So instead of attacking back, I jokingly made up one liners at the end of my posts (IN GRUDEN WE TRUST, ITS A GRUDEN THING', LET GO LET GRUDEN"
I didn't know the Neiner, Neiner, Neiner you don't have a weiner works on adults also..
Again some fans couldnt see past it and blasted me more, which is fine. I don't give a flying phuck..
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
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Lets set the record straight!
First off before I started JOKING around about Gruden, I was attacked by the Mangini minions. I was called many names for saying what is obvious (to me).
Then I threw out the name of Gruden, cause I felt he was a good fit and 1000 TIMES better than mangini. Again, I was called many names for my opinion.
So instead of attacking back, I jokingly made up one liners at the end of my posts (IN GRUDEN WE TRUST, ITS A GRUDEN THING', LET GO LET GRUDEN"
I didn't know the Neiner, Neiner, Neiner you don't have a weiner works on adults also..
Again some fans couldnt see past it and blasted me more, which is fine. I don't give a flying phuck..
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
Lets set the record straight!
First off before I started JOKING around about Gruden, I was attacked by the Mangini minions. I was called many names for saying what is obvious (to me).
Then I threw out the name of Gruden, cause I felt he was a good fit and 1000 TIMES better than mangini. Again, I was called many names for my opinion.
So instead of attacking back, I jokingly made up one liners at the end of my posts (IN GRUDEN WE TRUST, ITS A GRUDEN THING', LET GO LET GRUDEN"
I didn't know the Neiner, Neiner, Neiner you don't have a weiner works on adults also..
Again some fans couldnt see past it and blasted me more, which is fine. I don't give a flying phuck..
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
So now your the victim of circumstance.....GTFO!! You came here and told anyone who would listen that Gruden WAS COMING.....and anyone who didn't believe you was an idiot. Poor victim.........grow the xxxx UP!!
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Lets set the record straight!
First off before I started JOKING around about Gruden, I was attacked by the Mangini minions. I was called many names for saying what is obvious (to me).
Then I threw out the name of Gruden, cause I felt he was a good fit and 1000 TIMES better than mangini. Again, I was called many names for my opinion.
So instead of attacking back, I jokingly made up one liners at the end of my posts (IN GRUDEN WE TRUST, ITS A GRUDEN THING', LET GO LET GRUDEN"
I didn't know the Neiner, Neiner, Neiner you don't have a weiner works on adults also..
Again some fans couldnt see past it and blasted me more, which is fine. I don't give a flying phuck..
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
So now your the victim of circumstance.....GTFO!! You came here and told anyone who would listen that Gruden WAS COMING.....and anyone who didn't believe you was an idiot. Poor victim.........grow the xxxx UP!!
So now your the victim of circumstance.....GTFO!! You came here and told anyone who would listen that Gruden WAS COMING.....and anyone who didn't believe you was an idiot. Poor victim.........grow the xxxx UP!!
You shouldn't take life to seriously. You'll never get out alive.
Write that down!
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I'm working hard to find common ground among us Browns fans and I think I have stumbled onto something. If we all chip in we can have a head coach genetically engineered by taking DNA from Holmgren, Mangini and Gruden. We can call the creation "Chucky" Holmgrini.
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Gambling website has Jon Gruden as favorite to be Cowboys coach in 2011
Posted at 3:14 PM on Wed., Nov. 10, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Sportsbook.com posted gambling odds for who will be the Cowboys head coach to start the 2011-12 regular season.
Of the 12 coaching options to place a wager on, Jon Gruden has the best odds at 2-1 while Tony Dungy and Brian Billick share the worst at 25-1.
Other options include Marty Schottenheimer (15-1), Mike Zimmer (15-1), Bill Parcells (10-1), Leslie Frazier (10-1), Jim Harbaugh (8-1), Marvin Lewis (5-1), Bill Cowher (4-1), Jason Garrett (4-1) and John Fox (3.5-1).
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Lets set the record straight!
First off before I started JOKING around about Gruden, I was attacked by the Mangini minions. I was called many names for saying what is obvious (to me).
Then I threw out the name of Gruden, cause I felt he was a good fit and 1000 TIMES better than mangini. Again, I was called many names for my opinion.
So instead of attacking back, I jokingly made up one liners at the end of my posts (IN GRUDEN WE TRUST, ITS A GRUDEN THING', LET GO LET GRUDEN"
I didn't know the Neiner, Neiner, Neiner you don't have a weiner works on adults also..
Again some fans couldnt see past it and blasted me more, which is fine. I don't give a flying phuck..
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
Lets set the record straight!
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
You're entitled to you opinion about Mangini. I happen to think it's dead wrong, and it's not worth arguing with you about the technical aspects why- there's plenty of intelligent blogs out there (if you'd bother to look) explaining it far better than I can. BTW, you get a big FAIL in the humor and sarcasm department.
And you didn't get my point- sure Belichick looked just like Mangini in Cleveland. Verge of getting fired in New England? Go look it up- went 5-11 his first year with the Pats- won the Super Bowl the next. Gee, too bad Kraft had some patience- a quality a certain segment of the Cleveland fanbase is sorely lacking in. All Brady? That's a hoot. He won 11 games with Matt Cassell as his quarterback, and half his defense on IR- he was using wrs as cornerbacks to refresh your memory. Yeah, Belichick is so overrated- I'll tell you what- just drop me a check for $1,000 when he's inducted into the HOF for being able to predict the future. Next year he moves into the top ten all-time in wins, and in winning % he's 12th with coaches over 100 wins- even counting his "terrible" seasons with the Browns.
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Lets set the record straight!
People compared mangini to vince lombardi and now Belichick.
Let me start by saying Belichick is the most over rated coach EVER.(not saying he is a bad coach) He was horrible for the Browns. The same guy who had a panick attack when Kyle Brady was drafted by the Jets, so he had to trade down since he had no idea what to do. He was on the verge of being fired by the Pats when low and behold Tom Brady fell in his lap. Give any coach a hall of fame QB with there 6th RD pick and I am sure they will look like a genious.
Yes give Mangini a Tom Brady and I am sure he will be the next great coach...
lastly I beleive there are MANY coaches who would be a huge upgrade. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbough, Ricki Lake!
You're entitled to you opinion about Mangini. I happen to think it's dead wrong, and it's not worth arguing with you about the technical aspects why- there's plenty of intelligent blogs out there (if you'd bother to look) explaining it far better than I can. BTW, you get a big FAIL in the humor and sarcasm department.
And you didn't get my point- sure Belichick looked just like Mangini in Cleveland. Verge of getting fired in New England? Go look it up- went 5-11 his first year with the Pats- won the Super Bowl the next. Gee, too bad Kraft had some patience- a quality a certain segment of the Cleveland fanbase is sorely lacking in. All Brady? That's a hoot. He won 11 games with Matt Cassell as his quarterback, and half his defense on IR- he was using wrs as cornerbacks to refresh your memory. Yeah, Belichick is so overrated- I'll tell you what- just drop me a check for $1,000 when he's inducted into the HOF for being able to predict the future. Next year he moves into the top ten all-time in wins, and in winning % he's 12th with coaches over 100 wins- even counting his "terrible" seasons with the Browns.
You're entitled to you opinion about Mangini. I happen to think it's dead wrong, and it's not worth arguing with you about the technical aspects why- there's plenty of intelligent blogs out there (if you'd bother to look) explaining it far better than I can. BTW, you get a big FAIL in the humor and sarcasm department.
And you didn't get my point- sure Belichick looked just like Mangini in Cleveland. Verge of getting fired in New England? Go look it up- went 5-11 his first year with the Pats- won the Super Bowl the next. Gee, too bad Kraft had some patience- a quality a certain segment of the Cleveland fanbase is sorely lacking in. All Brady? That's a hoot. He won 11 games with Matt Cassell as his quarterback, and half his defense on IR- he was using wrs as cornerbacks to refresh your memory. Yeah, Belichick is so overrated- I'll tell you what- just drop me a check for $1,000 when he's inducted into the HOF for being able to predict the future. Next year he moves into the top ten all-time in wins, and in winning % he's 12th with coaches over 100 wins- even counting his "terrible" seasons with the Browns.
You missed the whole point. Its a known fact that he would have been fired not for a bledsoe injury and tom brady.. check out his record with out brady. Sure he went 11 and 5 one year with cassel. At that time players were taking pay cuts to play for the gay pats.
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I could give a shyt if big bird is our coach as long as we win. What I want to know is what respectable coach is going to come here knowing he only has 2 years to turn this team into playoff contenders or else he's fired?
The only people I can see jumping at the chance is someone looking for a payday and doesn't really care or some up and comer who's willing to give it a shot cause he rather coach the Browns then be a OC in college.
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The difference in the time frame that a new coach would have is that Holmgren was brought in as the team president with Mangini already in place and if Holmgren is the guy in charge of all football decisions, he's going to want a head coach that he hired, not one that was there before he came in. It's no different in any business when someone new is in charge, they always want their own people working for them.
I have no doubt if Mangini is fired (and I think after today he will be for sure), we will be able to bring in a very good coach. Pretty easy to guess who it will be, it will be any one of the names that we've all mentioned. Harbaugh, Gruden, Mohnerwig, Mariucci. I think it's an offensive minded coach without question. I don't think Holmgren will take over as head coach.
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Ricki Lake sure could trim the "fat" off this team.
Heh.
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