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  • Via WTAM it was Triv who called it; stating that 'believe me, Phil is no longer with the Browns organization'

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  • I am wondering what this means in regards to Crennel. If Lerner is cleaning house so quickly, why haven't we heard that Crennel is gone? Might he being staying on in some capacity?
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  • listercatL listercat

    Via WTAM it was Triv who called it; stating that 'believe me, Phil is no longer with the Browns organization'

    @listercat said:

    Via WTAM it was Triv who called it; stating that 'believe me, Phil is no longer with the Browns organization'

    Triv may have got the story from the same PFT rumormill. Triv hates Savage more than Ghoolie does.

    This would seem to be a newsworthy story, and i can't find it anywhere substantial. Anyone find it?

  • The majors probably won't report it, roach, until it is proven 100%, but the rumor mills are running wild...

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  • I could easily see Crennel staying around as d-coordinator for Schotty, Cowher, or McDaniels.

  • I hope not, DTBH. What would the point be???

  • It's the fast-track to a sucky, shit-ass prevent defense. That's what Cleveland is all about. What is not to get?

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  • Savage wasn't bad but he dug his own grave by resigning DA and sending that stupid email.

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  • Well I heard Triv about a month ago stating he had talked to Lerner himself and Lerner is Quoted as saying that romeo would definately be fired and that savage would be demoted meaning basically hes gone...so...No real surprise to Me...Triv had the scoop a month ago...

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  • DTBHD DTBH

    It's the fast-track to a sucky, shit-ass prevent defense. That's what Cleveland is all about. What is not to get?

    @dtbh said:

    It's the fast-track to a sucky, shit-ass prevent defense. That's what Cleveland is all about. What is not to get?

    Where's the optimism? 🙂

  • S samoth

    Savage wasn't bad but he dug his own grave by resigning DA and sending that stupid email.

    @samoth said:

    Savage wasn't bad but he dug his own grave by resigning DA and sending that stupid email.

    Add to that the fact that he should have shit-canned Crennel a long time ago, or never hired him, and I can justify why he's gone. But other than that, the guy brought in a ton of talent.

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  • I suddenly feel a bit better and after crennel is canned tomorrow i will feel even better but who is randy going to replace them with?

    GULP!

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  • DTBHD DTBH

    @samoth said:

    Savage wasn't bad but he dug his own grave by resigning DA and sending that stupid email.

    Add to that the fact that he should have shit-canned Crennel a long time ago, or never hired him, and I can justify why he's gone. But other than that, the guy brought in a ton of talent.

    @dtbh said:

    Add to that the fact that he should have shit-canned Crennel a long time ago, or never hired him, and I can justify why he's gone. But other than that, the guy brought in a ton of talent.

    Savage didnt hire Crennel...Lerner did....

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @dtbh said:

    Add to that the fact that he should have shit-canned Crennel a long time ago, or never hired him, and I can justify why he's gone. But other than that, the guy brought in a ton of talent.

    Savage didnt hire Crennel...Lerner did....

    @nickers said:

    Savage didnt hire Crennel...Lerner did....

    I think that is one thing that hurt us that the GM did not get to hire the coach he wanted, or at least try and get the coach he wanted, being the fact that we were hiring both that year anyway. I do not want to make that mistake again. We need a true team in their not a fake one.

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  • plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73

    @nickers said:

    Savage didnt hire Crennel...Lerner did....

    I think that is one thing that hurt us that the GM did not get to hire the coach he wanted, or at least try and get the coach he wanted, being the fact that we were hiring both that year anyway. I do not want to make that mistake again. We need a true team in their not a fake one.

    @plumcrazy73 said:

    I think that is one thing that hurt us that the GM did not get to hire the coach he wanted, or at least try and get the coach he wanted, being the fact that we were hiring both that year anyway. I do not want to make that mistake again. We need a true team in their not a fake one.

    I totally agree

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  • J JewDago

    while savage isn't a great PR guy, he's a decent evaluator of talent who makes moves to get the players the team needs. we should have found a way to keep him on as director of player personnel or director of scouting.

    and crennel absolutely killed savage's tenure here. the last six games have been some of the worst football i've ever watched sixteen minutes of.

    @jewdago said:

    while savage isn't a great PR guy, he's a decent evaluator of talent who makes moves to get the players the team needs. we should have found a way to keep him on as director of player personnel or director of scouting.

    and crennel absolutely killed savage's tenure here. the last six games have been some of the worst football i've ever watched sixteen minutes of.

    Don't blame Crennel for ruining Savage's tenure, Savage could have either fired Crennel or quit at ANY TIME but he stuck with Romeo.

    He made his bed and this is what he deserves.

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    The majors probably won't report it, roach, until it is proven 100%, but the rumor mills are running wild...

    mz. said:

    The majors probably won't report it, roach, until it is proven 100%, but the rumor mills are running wild...

    Thanks. This rumor may eventually turn out to be true, but if it already happened, the majors would have the story (and WTAM would have put it on their own website). i'm not buying that it has happened until i see it from a source that i've heard of. BTW, there is no business reason or fan reason for the Browns to keep this story off their own website (if it really already happened).

  • PFT put out a somewhat unnecessary update:

    SAVAGE FIRED

    Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2008, 6:31 p.m.

    We heard a couple of hours ago that G.M. Phil Savage is out in Cleveland.

    We’re now told that Savage was fired.

    It’s likely only a matter of time until coach Romeo Crennel joins him — unless owner Randy Lerner quickly hires Pats V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli, and if Pioli then decides to find a way to keep Crennel on the staff.

    If the Dolphins defeat the Jets and barring a collapse of epic proportions by the Ravens against the Jaguars, the Patriots will be shut out of the playoffs, which would put Pioli immediately in play to be interviewed and hired for a job that gives him final say over personnel.

  • @ pl4tinum: good point about savage being able to fire crennel whenever he wanted. but, before this season, how do you fire a guy who just went 10-6 and was the surprise of the league?

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  • AP just made it official: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/28/...owns-Savage.php

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