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  • @gafreleets said:

    what is my purpose for posting here? comic relief.........you can't buy laughs like what you get around here for free.

    and "you see fans who have stood by our team for a decade of futility.."? not what i saw when your stadium got emptied the last game of the year. which is honestly the best thing for your team. as i've said before, drop merchandise sales by 60+% and have 4 or more home games blacked out and your ownership will get it's act together.

    I am glad we can add some comic releif of your life. See the difference between people like you and I, is I wouldn't be on a forum when my team was in the AFC title game talking with a fan base who's team finished 5-11..

  • I think Cocong would do good at DE or OLB in a 4-3. He wass really good at DE in college and he needs to be used more in the pass rush since that is his bread and butter. Matt Roth can also play DE well but I also think he can work well at OLB in the 4-3.

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  • Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

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  • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg

    Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

    @erie-dawg said:

    Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

    Ya know Erie....I wish you would change that sig pic.

    Ok....I've seen it before and chuckled myself, but really man, the focus goes to the big girl, and it is obvious she has something going on more than a eating problem.

    The joke goes far beyond the Steeler jersey and starts to hit a personal level at which point it isn't funny any longer.

    JMO

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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @erie-dawg said:

    Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

    Ya know Erie....I wish you would change that sig pic.

    Ok....I've seen it before and chuckled myself, but really man, the focus goes to the big girl, and it is obvious she has something going on more than a eating problem.

    The joke goes far beyond the Steeler jersey and starts to hit a personal level at which point it isn't funny any longer.

    JMO

    @ballpeen said:

    Ya know Erie....I wish you would change that sig pic.

    Ok....I've seen it before and chuckled myself, but really man, the focus goes to the big girl, and it is obvious she has something going on more than a eating problem.

    The joke goes far beyond the Steeler jersey and starts to hit a personal level at which point it isn't funny any longer.

    JMO

    Well I respect you and your knowledge of the game and team peen, but not sure how you can take that personal.

    Maybe I don't want to know....lol.

  • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg

    Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

    @erie-dawg said:

    Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

    Thats a pretty piss poor article IMO all its showing is the 43 defense rushing 4 everytime while the 34 defense is rushing 3 and blitzing another 2 or 3. Well we all know by now what happens when you rush 6 guys and don't get to the QB. I really don't care if we run the 34 or 43 but I do know this. When you have NO talent schemes will only get you so far no matter who the DC is.

    Heres a far better article 34 vs 43 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/1/26/...scheme-will-the

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  • I am not a fan of this change. Issues I see a personnel related. With the 3 - 4 and a healthy scott Fujita at one ILB, I thought we were one impact OLB away from being a very dangerous D.... now?

    Who is our MLB? I don't see Scott F there solo... Barton? Too slow...

    Who are our DE's? I really don't see one ideal 4 - 3 DE on the 2010 roster let alone two... Bowens may be as close as we have, and I ain't feelin' him...

    Any deficiencies can be addressed through the draft, FA and trades with time... but the change really sets us back....

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  • I don't care as long as we just pick one and stick with it. We can't keep flip flopping every 5 years.

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  • i hear the argument that we should switch schemes cause we dont have the personnel to run a 3-4.....but we dont have the personnel to run a 4-3 either. we have no natural DE's, only guys that either played it in college or former 3-4 OLB that will have to learn to play hand down. slow linebackers outside of DQJ, but how reliable is he now that hes played only a couple games in 2 years (mr. glass). considering the guys we do have are all on the back of their careers.....we were gonna retool the DL/LB anyway.....we'll be drafting for an inferior system.

    4-3 is going the way of the dodo as scheming is becoming more heaviliy relaint on trickery and confusion. we're hamstrung now, and with this new bland version of the 4-3 that jauron brings here.....well, its not like its gonna be hard to defeat it. it was once a dominant defense, it got destroyed by the WCO and the 3-4 was the solution by adding another backer.

    this is just the old man walrus thinking his archaic system still applies to the current version of the NFL.

  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    @erie-dawg said:

    Here is an article that was writen to compare the two and its very base for both schemes but the comment's from players is what is key. And they add that they practice twice as much for 34 teams.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d80d6...-in-the-numbers

    Thats a pretty piss poor article IMO all its showing is the 43 defense rushing 4 everytime while the 34 defense is rushing 3 and blitzing another 2 or 3. Well we all know by now what happens when you rush 6 guys and don't get to the QB. I really don't care if we run the 34 or 43 but I do know this. When you have NO talent schemes will only get you so far no matter who the DC is.

    Heres a far better article 34 vs 43 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/1/26/...scheme-will-the

    @richiswhere said:

    Thats a pretty piss poor article IMO all its showing is the 43 defense rushing 4 everytime while the 34 defense is rushing 3 and blitzing another 2 or 3. Well we all know by now what happens when you rush 6 guys and don't get to the QB. I really don't care if we run the 34 or 43 but I do know this. When you have NO talent schemes will only get you so far no matter who the DC is.

    Heres a far better article 34 vs 43 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/1/26/...scheme-will-the

    Well I thought I mentioned that it was pretty basic;

    I could of swore I said that the comments from the players was the key.

    I would rather hear comments from o& d lineman that play in the trenches and know what gives them fits rather than a buffalo beat writers plagiarized article of stuff he copied and pasted.

    Like it was already stated we are in dire need of 43 personel and it would be a down rite fu**ing miracle if it was a smooth transiion and we already had most of the pieces in place.

    Let's not forget we will be changing offenses even more parts that we need via FA and the draft that can't be spent on the 43 transition. I can already see free agency if we have one.... everyones pricks will be stiff cause landed a old. Def. player with a little left in the tank that gets paid huge..... and he is going to mentor the young guys into the 43. For some reason im getting deja-vu, ala willie mc ginest and the Rac era. Just be thankfull we don't have savage doing the draft. But Im just not sure how we can totally switch everything on both sides of the ball and it not be considered rebuilding?

    So if we win 6 or 7 games next year will it be a success even with the cake schedule?

    If the record stays the same is it going to be "the men were just getting their feet wet in the new system, we just need some more time"

    If it's the latter did we even move forward at all?

  • Ethier way we lack the talent to run any defense you would like to consider, me i pefer the 3-4 as opposed to 4-3 but i think we missed out on alot of great players to fit that scheme in last recent years draft..Look at GB i thought Raji would be a perfect fit as NT in the 3-4 seems he is, or how about swapping picks with are division rivals to allow them to add the best NT in the game in Ngata when we could of had him...I dont care what system we run anymore just make smart decisions and draft the right xxxxing Players .......

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  • 3-4 is the wave of the future in the NFL..period

    What do the 2 Super Bowl teams play?

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