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  • TheClevelandSound TheClevelandSoundT
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    TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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    This is a receiver I think we will grab in the early second round if we don't draft one with our first round pick. But reading this is upsetting:

    http://stlouis.sbnation.com/st-louis-rams/...nts-nfl-combine

    Jonathan Baldwin, lately at the back of the average 2011 NFL Mock Draft first round, was touted ahead of the NFL Combine as a player who could push deep into the first round with a performance that showed off his immense physical talents. The Pitt wide receiver might well have run himself out of the first day, putting together a 4.52 40-yard dash and apparently falling down during a receiving drill.

    Baldwin, who's had to answer questions about his work ethic since a contentious relationship with coach Dave Wannstedt became public, was widely expected to run a 4.3 40, which would have, given his 6-5, 230-pound frame, allayed a number of potential character concerns. But a weak performance at the Combine makes him extremely likely to fall to the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft, held April 28-30.

    In the last SB Nation mock draft before the Combine he had fallen out of the first round entirely; his performance so far means he's unlikely to reenter it, let alone soothe the St. Louis Rams' concerns about Julio Jones' rising draft stock.

    Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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    • slowburn slowburnS
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      slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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      it amazes me how much a player's stock can rise or fall based on a combine performance. If scouted properly a players skill level should be ascertained prior to this dog and pony exhibition. Seems to me

      a sub par 40 and a fall down during a receiving drill is marginal in the big scheme of things. But then again, some teams could take him off their radar completely. Who the heck knows.....

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      • CantonLegend C
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        C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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        hes one of the better options coming out

        you look at his 40 time to say he isnt fast then watch any game from this season and see that he can run those deep routes

        trouble is that hes a possession receiver. it isnt a knock on him, its a compliment to his ability to go over the middle and take the hits.

        you guys may say he has an attitude or character concerns, but all he said was that his role in pitts offense was hurting his draft stock. who wouldn't be upset if the school they went to was hurting their chances of making more money at their next job. its the same thing but you guys expect the same cookie cutter answers everytime somebody asks a question and when somebody says something different you either say he has character issues or hes a golden child......but life doesnt work like that

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        • secondwave S Conversation Starter Dedicated Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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          S secondwave wrote on last edited by secondwave
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          I think that's where the problem lies.

          The 40 is useless unless they run in pads. AJ Green is a great example of someone who runs just as fast in pads as he does without.

          A lot of players are nowhere near their timed speeds in pads.

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          • choco chocoC
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            chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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            no thanks....see enough of him at pitt. headcase and selfish, and not even really that good.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              He isn't even on my list. When you are acting like a T.O. in -college-, then just wait

              til the Bengals nab him, or some other team takes a chance on him.

              Nope.

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              • Erie Dawg Erie DawgE
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                Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                Speed is nice but hands are good too.

                as long as we don't end up with another braylon edwards, fast but dropped the easy throws and sometimes caught the near impossible throws.

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                • choco chocoC
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                  chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                  ahem.....nailed it.

                  Baldwin does exactly as expected

                  Well, unfortunately we have some bad news in the Why isn't Jonathan Baldwin at practice story that developed yesterday. According to Nick Wright on Twitter, Jonathan Baldwin and Thomas Jones got into a locker room scuffle a few days ago.

                  The result?

                  Baldwin injured his hand wrist and will reportedly miss the rest of the Kansas City Chiefs preseason.

                  We'll continue to update this story as it develops.....

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                    hes one of the better options coming out

                    you look at his 40 time to say he isnt fast then watch any game from this season and see that he can run those deep routes

                    trouble is that hes a possession receiver. it isnt a knock on him, its a compliment to his ability to go over the middle and take the hits.

                    you guys may say he has an attitude or character concerns, but all he said was that his role in pitts offense was hurting his draft stock. who wouldn't be upset if the school they went to was hurting their chances of making more money at their next job. its the same thing but you guys expect the same cookie cutter answers everytime somebody asks a question and when somebody says something different you either say he has character issues or hes a golden child......but life doesnt work like that

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                    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                    @cantonlegend said:

                    hes one of the better options coming out

                    you look at his 40 time to say he isnt fast then watch any game from this season and see that he can run those deep routes

                    trouble is that hes a possession receiver. it isnt a knock on him, its a compliment to his ability to go over the middle and take the hits.

                    you guys may say he has an attitude or character concerns, but all he said was that his role in pitts offense was hurting his draft stock. who wouldn't be upset if the school they went to was hurting their chances of making more money at their next job. its the same thing but you guys expect the same cookie cutter answers everytime somebody asks a question and when somebody says something different you either say he has character issues or hes a golden child......but life doesnt work like that

                    Once again, you were wrong.

                    You amuse me, court jester.

                    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                      @cantonlegend said:

                      hes one of the better options coming out

                      you look at his 40 time to say he isnt fast then watch any game from this season and see that he can run those deep routes

                      trouble is that hes a possession receiver. it isnt a knock on him, its a compliment to his ability to go over the middle and take the hits.

                      you guys may say he has an attitude or character concerns, but all he said was that his role in pitts offense was hurting his draft stock. who wouldn't be upset if the school they went to was hurting their chances of making more money at their next job. its the same thing but you guys expect the same cookie cutter answers everytime somebody asks a question and when somebody says something different you either say he has character issues or hes a golden child......but life doesnt work like that

                      Once again, you were wrong.

                      You amuse me, court jester.

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                      C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                      Once again, you were wrong.

                      You amuse me, court jester.

                      thomas jones is known for starting shit. thats why hes bounced around so many teams in such a short period of time. he wears out his welcome very quickly.

                      baldwin isnt the concern here. the only reason this story has any legs is because baldwin got hurt...otherwise nobody cares because locker room fights happen all the time

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                        chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                        Lmao....riiiiiiight....

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                          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                          Once again, you were wrong.

                          You amuse me, court jester.

                          thomas jones is known for starting shit. thats why hes bounced around so many teams in such a short period of time. he wears out his welcome very quickly.

                          baldwin isnt the concern here. the only reason this story has any legs is because baldwin got hurt...otherwise nobody cares because locker room fights happen all the time

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                          B BigBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @cantonlegend said:

                          thomas jones is known for starting shit. thats why hes bounced around so many teams in such a short period of time. he wears out his welcome very quickly.

                          baldwin isnt the concern here. the only reason this story has any legs is because baldwin got hurt...otherwise nobody cares because locker room fights happen all the time

                          Yeah that must be it....

                          Christ a Pitt homer.....

                          Penn State's little brother and always will be....

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                            P pizzadeliveryguy wrote on last edited by
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                            RT @Eric_Edholm: Hearing Thomas Jones-Jonathan Baldwin fight might not have been the rookie's fault. Makes sense given past TJ behavior

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                              J jasont44094 wrote on last edited by
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                              Heard that teammates had problems with Baldwin's work ethic and Jones confronted him about it and the fight broke out.

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                                @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                Once again, you were wrong.

                                You amuse me, court jester.

                                thomas jones is known for starting shit. thats why hes bounced around so many teams in such a short period of time. he wears out his welcome very quickly.

                                baldwin isnt the concern here. the only reason this story has any legs is because baldwin got hurt...otherwise nobody cares because locker room fights happen all the time

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                                Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                @cantonlegend said:

                                thomas jones is known for starting shit. thats why hes bounced around so many teams in such a short period of time. he wears out his welcome very quickly.

                                baldwin isnt the concern here. the only reason this story has any legs is because baldwin got hurt...otherwise nobody cares because locker room fights happen all the time

                                Remove Jon Baldwin's dick from your mouth before you say something, you're slurring your words.

                                I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                                  marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                                  Some where out there in the NFL Universe there's going to be a savvy coach that's going to make a tight end out of this kid and all that bullshit by the combine blowhards will mean nothing. There are plenty of players in the league that the combine idiots said were shit and a coach made something out of them. There are times when they're spot on with their assessments but it's 50/50.

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                                    C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                    lol even after reports that jones started the fight surfaced you guys still cant handle the fact that talent can come out of pennsylvania...morons

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                                      lol even after reports that jones started the fight surfaced you guys still cant handle the fact that talent can come out of pennsylvania...morons

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                                      B BigBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @cantonlegend said:

                                      lol even after reports that jones started the fight surfaced you guys still cant handle the fact that talent can come out of pennsylvania...morons

                                      I'm from Pennsylvania and what in the fawk does some punk-ass kid getting confronted about his attitude and lack-of-work ethic have anything to do with being a talent from a certain state?

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