Citing From Reputable Sources: Bowers Is Declared Out Of Running For Sixth Pick
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He also says that he doesn't think that they will pick Peterson if he is there at 6, even though Heckert has said they are more than open to the idea. He is just a beat writer and can not be taken as a credible source every time he says something.
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link please?
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Tony Grossi said that Bowers is not considered for the Browns sixth pick. Robert Quinn, Julio Jones, and J.J. Watt are considered for the first pick for the Browns now.
Tony Grossi said that Bowers is not considered for the Browns sixth pick. Robert Quinn, Julio Jones, and J.J. Watt are considered for the first pick for the Browns now.
But will they wear brown pants, that is the question, right?
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link please?
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He is getting it from a video on cleveland.com. It's just speculation like all other people who are doing mock drafts. Grossi is not a very credible source of things actually happening right now in the from office. He is just a sports writer making his weekly video.
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Grossi also said that if Green is there at sixth spot where the Browns are at, they will take him. But if AJ Green isn't there, Julio Jones will be strongly be in consideration for the sixth pick.
^Here's a link
Here's what I have to say about this. Due to how deep the draft is in defensive ends and tackles, the Browns may very well take Marvin Austin from UNC, and Greg Romeus in the third or fourth round and take Jones with the first round pick.
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Tony Grossi said that Bowers is not considered for the Browns sixth pick. Robert Quinn, Julio Jones, and J.J. Watt are considered for the first pick for the Browns now.
Tony Grossi said that Bowers is not considered for the Browns sixth pick. Robert Quinn, Julio Jones, and J.J. Watt are considered for the first pick for the Browns now.
I would rather trade down than take any of those guys at 6. However, for commical reasons I hope Shurmer/Heckert/Holmgren's draft board goes 1. Jones 2. Watt 3. Quinn. I just want to here the Walrus say: Julio's on first, Watt's on second.
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That doesn't sound like Heckert at all.
Why would you take guys who you can get in picks 10-15 with the 6th pick? There's no logic behind any of this. So for that, he's now on my 'never listen' list.
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With the Redskins possibly taking Julio Jones, Heckert may have no choice to take Jones with the first if he wants him bad enough.
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The only reputable sources on this subject are Tom Heckert and Mike Holmgren.....and even they definitely are NOT reputable because it is their job to throw up smoke screens on whom they may be thinking of drafting.
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that's horrible reasoning.
that's horrible reasoning.
yo man, you go to uncc as in unc charlotte? that'd be really tight if that's the case, I'm at school here too.
as for all this, I never listen to Grossi. It's just his job if he hears a whisper from anyone to report it as though it's a fact. But I have to admit, I don't think what he said is necessarily "horrible reasoning". If Heckert really does like Julio that much and really does see it as a lock washington will take him, the possibility to reach to get your guy is perfectly possible. However, I don't believe any of that to be true, at all. Heckert has shown to basically never do that, so there's nothing that leads me to believe that will change.
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I wouldnt reach for Jones and i know Washington will probaly grab him,maybe if we traded back a few spots then take him....
I also love the depth at DT in the early second round id love Marvin Austin,Drake Nevis,Cam Heyward or even Stephen Paea, also i think Raheem Moore would be a steal in the early second and would be a perfect fit next to Ward
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that's horrible reasoning.
yo man, you go to uncc as in unc charlotte? that'd be really tight if that's the case, I'm at school here too.
as for all this, I never listen to Grossi. It's just his job if he hears a whisper from anyone to report it as though it's a fact. But I have to admit, I don't think what he said is necessarily "horrible reasoning". If Heckert really does like Julio that much and really does see it as a lock washington will take him, the possibility to reach to get your guy is perfectly possible. However, I don't believe any of that to be true, at all. Heckert has shown to basically never do that, so there's nothing that leads me to believe that will change.
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He is getting it from a video on cleveland.com. It's just speculation like all other people who are doing mock drafts. Grossi is not a very credible source of things actually happening right now in the from office. He is just a sports writer making his weekly video.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
He is getting it from a video on cleveland.com. It's just speculation like all other people who are doing mock drafts. Grossi is not a very credible source of things actually happening right now in the from office. He is just a sports writer making his weekly video.
Probably so, but I wouldn't say Grossi is totally out of the loop.
As the Sr. beat writer, I think some with the team give these guys a bit of a scoop from time to time. The team needs the writers, especially if they want to have a little sway in how a story is written if it isn't good news...
Seeing Bowers injury concern, it isn't a big reach Heckert or someone told Grossi we weren't considering the guy.
It keeps the writer happy and doesn't really tip our draft plans.
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He also says that he doesn't think that they will pick Peterson if he is there at 6, even though Heckert has said they are more than open to the idea. He is just a beat writer and can not be taken as a credible source every time he says something.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
He also says that he doesn't think that they will pick Peterson if he is there at 6, even though Heckert has said they are more than open to the idea. He is just a beat writer and can not be taken as a credible source every time he says something.
Well, there's a lot of other folks (such as myself) who also think the Browns won't draft Peterson @ #6 either. For a team with a glaring need for a stud wr, or a top shelf DL, I can't rationalize the Browns going to the CB well two years running in the first round.
So we have Joe Hayden and Peterson trying to guard wrs for 10 seconds while the opposing qb has lunch and waits for someone to break open.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
He also says that he doesn't think that they will pick Peterson if he is there at 6, even though Heckert has said they are more than open to the idea. He is just a beat writer and can not be taken as a credible source every time he says something.
Well, there's a lot of other folks (such as myself) who also think the Browns won't draft Peterson @ #6 either. For a team with a glaring need for a stud wr, or a top shelf DL, I can't rationalize the Browns going to the CB well two years running in the first round.
So we have Joe Hayden and Peterson trying to guard wrs for 10 seconds while the opposing qb has lunch and waits for someone to break open.
Well, there's a lot of other folks (such as myself) who also think the Browns won't draft Peterson @ #6 either. For a team with a glaring need for a stud wr, or a top shelf DL, I can't rationalize the Browns going to the CB well two years running in the first round.
So we have Joe Hayden and Peterson trying to guard wrs for 10 seconds while the opposing qb has lunch and waits for someone to break open.
Well there are three guys that I know of who are more than open to the idea (me, Heckert, and Holmgren). Every year you have a few guys come out that are great to elite pass rushers, it's not every year a corner like Peterson is available.
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secondwave....we dont have the 10-15th pick. we have the sixth....so u take the BPA on the board. if that guy is watt, jones....u take him.
way too much emphasis on draft slotting....considering a rookie cap will be in place.
secondwave....we dont have the 10-15th pick. we have the sixth....so u take the BPA on the board. if that guy is watt, jones....u take him.
way too much emphasis on draft slotting....considering a rookie cap will be in place.
I think you misunderstood my post. Let me rephrase:
Why would this team draft guys projected (Jones, Watt) 10-15? That would 1. be a waste of money and 2. we can simply trade down if need be to get said players.
I'm not saying not to take BPA (in fact, i've been an advocate of that philosophy), but why reach for guys we can draft if we simply traded down?
With that said, AJ Green or Patrick Peterson please.
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