Matt Williamson on DA
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Again, you believe the coaches think DA is a better QB than Quinn and that's why he is playing correct? The same coaches who thought after last season that Charlie Frye was a better QB than DA?Now you're getting to know the real certifiable Lumquat.
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Numbers are for those who don't watch the games and form their own opinions as far as I'm concerned. Now DA's numbers, those don't lie.Please tell me that you weren't serious in typing that.
Here's some of your logic right back at ya:
Seeing Jamal Lewis labor to the bench after every effort for a breather don't explain the real reason why he's not in for every play either. The real reason is because DA sucks.
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Again, you believe the coaches think DA is a better QB than Quinn and that's why he is playing correct? The same coaches who thought after last season that Charlie Frye was a better QB than DA?you mean the guys who pulled Frye in the 2nd qtr of week 1 and installed DA who rewarded them with a slew of new contracts?
Stupid question. Yeah I believe those guys think DA is better than Quinn.
So what do you think justadumbfan? That they think Quinn is better but just keep him on the bench because he looks sexier in a baseball cap?
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They gave him a deal that basically amounts to one season.Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true shep. It ain't a one year deal. And it ain't easy to get out of either.
FYI, of your new BFF BQ lovers at the scout.com site, neither Lane "I LUV BQ" Adkins nor John "I-want-to-have-hot-butt-sex-with-BQ" Taylor have been able to comprehend the meaning of the phrase "Derek Anderson's contract has 14.5 million dollars guaranteed" so if you're relying on them for your "BQ will start by default because they'll cut DA" information then keep in mind that you'd best get prepared for your 1,000th dose of reality come next spring.
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1 P. Rivers QB, SDG 149 234 63.7 2038 8.71 67 19 8.1 6 2.6 10.0 67 107.8
2 Tony Romo QB, DAL 128 200 64.0 1689 8.45 72 14 7.0 5 2.5 7.0 45 103.5
3 K. Warner QB, ARI 184 262 70.2 2089 7.97 79 14 5.3 6 2.3 15.0 118 102.1
4 Drew Brees QB, NOR 210 304 69.1 2563 8.43 84 15 4.9 7 2.3 7.0 48 101.6
5 J. Campbell QB, WAS 152 230 66.1 1754 7.63 67 8 3.5 0 .0 16.0 111 100.5
6 C. Pennington QB, MIA 140 202 69.3 1710 8.47 80 7 3.5 3 1.5 11.0 68 100.5
7 A. Rodgers QB, GNB 145 221 65.6 1668 7.55 62 12 5.4 4 1.8 13.0 79 98.8
8 T. Edwards QB, BUF 127 187 67.9 1436 7.68 49 5 2.7 3 1.6 13.0 86 92.9
9 M. Schaub QB, HOU 143 211 67.8 1623 7.69 61 10 4.7 7 3.3 13.0 86 92.6
10 Jay Cutler QB, DEN 163 254 64.2 1862 7.33 72 13 5.1 7 2.8 4.0 31 91.7
11 Kyle Orton QB, CHI 143 230 62.2 1669 7.26 52 10 4.3 4 1.7 14.0 83 91.4
12 D. McNabb QB, PHI 154 245 62.9 1829 7.47 90 8 3.3 3 1.2 12.0 79 91.4
13 B. Favre QB, NYJ 161 235 68.5 1611 6.86 56 15 6.4 11 4.7 16.0 126 89.5
14 E. Manning QB, NYG 137 223 61.4 1588 7.12 41 9 4.0 4 1.8 6.0 42 88.9
15 J. Garcia QB, TAM 106 157 67.5 1024 6.52 47 4 2.5 2 1.3 5.0 34 88.7
16 J. Delhomme QB, CAR 140 231 60.6 1781 7.71 65 9 3.9 5 2.2 11.0 73 88.7
17 D. Garrard QB, JAC 147 225 65.3 1542 6.85 35 6 2.7 4 1.8 18.0 135 86.6
18 B. Roethlisberger QB, PIT 109 181 60.2 1352 7.47 65 10 5.5 7 3.9 23.0 146 85.7
19 M. Cassel QB, NWE 131 199 65.8 1362 6.84 66 7 3.5 6 3.0 28.0 133 84.6
20 Matt Ryan QB, ATL 116 205 56.6 1441 7.03 70 7 3.4 5 2.4 9.0 61 79.7
21 M. Bulger QB, STL 98 167 58.7 1122 6.72 69 4 2.4 3 1.8 22.0 154 79.5
22 P. Manning QB, IND 162 265 61.1 1754 6.62 75 10 3.8 9 3.4 9.0 62 79.0
23 D. Orlovsky QB, DET 60 109 55.0 741 6.80 96 3 2.8 2 1.8 10.0 69 77.8
24 K. Collins QB, TEN 99 170 58.2 1056 6.21 44 3 1.8 3 1.8 1.0 10 75.0
25 J. Russell QB, OAK 99 197 50.3 1258 6.39 84 6 3.0 3 1.5 18.0 127 74.4
26 J. O'Sullivan QB, SFO 128 219 58.4 1678 7.66 63 8 3.7 11 5.0 32.0 197 74.0
27 G. Frerotte QB, MIN 103 180 57.2 1286 7.14 86 5 2.8 7 3.9 13.0 80 72.6
28 Jon Kitna QB, DET 68 120 56.7 758 6.32 47 5 4.2 5 4.2 15.0 89 72.2
29 Joe Flacco QB, BAL 119 191 62.3 1216 6.37 70 3 1.6 7 3.7 12.0 105 70.5
30 C. Palmer QB, CIN 75 129 58.1 731 5.67 36 3 2.3 4 3.1 11.0 67 69.0
31 D. Anderson QB, CLE 104 210 49.5 1235 5.88 70 7 3.3 6 2.9 10.0 60 67.1
32 B. Griese QB, TAM 84 147 57.1 804 5.47 38 4 2.7 6 4.1 5.0 26 64.6
33 T. Thigpen QB, KAN 63 126 50.0 672 5.33 36 4 3.2 4 3.2 11.0 91 63.3
34 R. Fitzpatrick QB, CIN 82 135 60.7 627 4.64 22 2 1.5 5 3.7 17.0 92 61.6
35 M. Hasselbeck QB, SEA 58 118 49.2 656 5.56 34 2 1.7 4 3.4 8.0 43 57.7
End of f.ucking discussion.
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They gave him a deal that basically amounts to one season.Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true shep. It ain't a one year deal. And it ain't easy to get out of either.
FYI, of your new BFF BQ lovers at the scout.com site, neither Lane "I LUV BQ" Adkins nor John "I-want-to-have-hot-butt-sex-with-BQ" Taylor have been able to comprehend the meaning of the phrase "Derek Anderson's contract has 14.5 million dollars guaranteed" so if you're relying on them for your "BQ will start by default because they'll cut DA" information then keep in mind that you'd best get prepared for your 1,000th dose of reality come next spring.
How long you been in love with DA? All you talk about is how everybody wants to jump on BQ and make love to him. What about you and Da? You do the same but worse. Get over the BQ jealously and move on. Your post are the worse things to read. I don't think you know you football. All you want to do is DA.
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How long you been in love with DA? All you talk about is how everybody wants to jump on BQ and make love to him. What about you and Da? You do the same but worse. Get over the BQ jealously and move on. Your post are the worse things to read. I don't think you know you football. All you want to do is DA.FYI I'm not the one claiming BQ was gonna come in vs Detroilet and throw 3 TD passes in the first half. And I'm not the one predicting that DA's gonna throw multiple INTs each game, get pulled at halftime, and that BQ will lead a miraculous comeback victory in the second half....Every single effing game week for two years straight.
Since you don't seem to have noticed, I don't make any predictions at all. I just point out the facts. Like the fact that DA is the starter. And the fact that starters start because they are better than their backups. And the fact that DA's contract is not a 1 year deal along with the fact that it has 14.5 million dollars of guaranteed money.
And here's another fact, as far as football knowledge goes, RAC and Phil have more football knowledge on the toilet paper they wiped their ass with this morning than you'll ever have in your entire life. Seeing as how you can't stop crying that they don't play your man-crush, it puts your football knowledge on par with the 12 yr old girls in the pink #10 jerseys.
As far as jealousy goes, you'll have to fill me in on how a fan of the starter can be jealous of the backup with his ass glued to the bench.
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Lum, you must have a line on his contract that nobody in the media understands. He has a $5 mill bonus, team option. If it isn't paid, he's gone.the only line in his contract that BQ Nation has had trouble understanding is the one that says 14.5 million guaranteed.
Yes, if they don't pay him the 5 mil roster bonus, he's gone alright....Yeah all Phil would have to do then would be to write him a check for the other 6.5 million of his guarantee and he'll be on his way!
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Lum is correct that if we don't pay Anderson his 5mil bonus, he's due the rest of his garunteed money anyway.
That won't stop the Browns from not paying the bonus though if they don't feel he's worth it. We have enough cap space every year to eat the #.
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Passer Ratings are for homos. Have you ever heard a Head coach talk about increasing passer rating?
No, but I've heard them talk about taking care of the football, managing the game, and WINNING.
Anderson has won 3 of his last four starts, the Browns were favored to lose in all four of them, and the only loss was to a 6-2 team on the road by 3 points.
Anderson DID NOT throw an interception or lose a fumble in the month of October. He was sacked just twice.
Through the last four games, he has 5 TDs, 1 INT, has taken just three sacks, and lost zero fumbles ... THATS WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR QUARTERBACK.
Quit your yammering and FORGET ABOUT THE FIRST THREE GAMES.
It was ugly, it was awful, ... it was an extended preseason. Anderson was recovering from a concussion, Edwards was recovering from an injury, stallworth was out, the offensive line wasn't meshing yet, nobody had gotten into a rhythm with each other yet ... it's a shame. But that was a different football team. This one blasted the Giants and beat a physical Jaguar team on their own turf. They are the best 3-4 team out there, including Chargers and Colts (think either of them would clock the Giants right now?) the QB is playing winning footbal, the defense is solid and they are going to beatdown Baltimore tomorrow and climb right back into the thick of the AFC playoff picture DESPITE that awful 0-3 start.
Brady Quinn is probably embarassed to have you homos as fans. Its about winning. And Derek Anderson is playing winning football right now
Robert L.
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How long you been in love with DA? All you talk about is how everybody wants to jump on BQ and make love to him. What about you and Da? You do the same but worse. Get over the BQ jealously and move on. Your post are the worse things to read. I don't think you know you football. All you want to do is DA.
FYI I'm not the one claiming BQ was gonna come in vs Detroilet and throw 3 TD passes in the first half. And I'm not the one predicting that DA's gonna throw multiple INTs each game, get pulled at halftime, and that BQ will lead a miraculous comeback victory in the second half....Every single effing game week for two years straight.
Since you don't seem to have noticed, I don't make any predictions at all. I just point out the facts. Like the fact that DA is the starter. And the fact that starters start because they are better than their backups. And the fact that DA's contract is not a 1 year deal along with the fact that it has 14.5 million dollars of guaranteed money.
And here's another fact, as far as football knowledge goes, RAC and Phil have more football knowledge on the toilet paper they wiped their ass with this morning than you'll ever have in your entire life. Seeing as how you can't stop crying that they don't play your man-crush, it puts your football knowledge on par with the 12 yr old girls in the pink #10 jerseys.
As far as jealousy goes, you'll have to fill me in on how a fan of the starter can be jealous of the backup with his ass glued to the bench.
I didn't say anything about BQ. I just know a bad QB when I see one. Average college QB and know just an average nfl QB. Mark may words he will be nothing but a good back up in this league. As far as BQ goes he may or may not be better we don't know. All the browns fans I have talked to said that they made a mistake by signing him and I agree. Take your man crush some where else. Your a JOKE and everybody knows it. Maybe you are really DA?
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Honestly, you won't know how much better or worse BQ is until you see him n a real game. You just won't.yeah I bet he would throw 3 TDs in the first half if they would have given him the start at Detroilet, right shep?
Word of advice to anybody having to deal with these BQ Fags trying to say that BQ is an unknown who's never played....just tell them Brady Quinn played a shitload this preseason including 2 starts and got waxed by all the 1st and 2nd teamers including by the Detroilet defense. Then in the Detroilet post game presser RAC said BQ's got a lot to learn. If BQ Nation had a half an effing memory cell in their brain when it comes to the golden boy's play they'd know that anybody who plays him is gonna just keep blitzing him since he can't make any decision in the pocket whatsoever except to dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off.
yeah I bet he would throw 3 TDs in the first half if they would have given him the start at Detroilet, right shep?
Word of advice to anybody having to deal with these BQ Fags trying to say that BQ is an unknown who's never played....just tell them Brady Quinn played a shitload this preseason including 2 starts and got waxed by all the 1st and 2nd teamers including by the Detroilet defense. Then in the Detroilet post game presser RAC said BQ's got a lot to learn. If BQ Nation had a half an effing memory cell in their brain when it comes to the golden boy's play they'd know that anybody who plays him is gonna just keep blitzing him since he can't make any decision in the pocket whatsoever except to dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off.
More class.
I think you get my point by now.
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@shepwrite said:
Lum, you must have a line on his contract that nobody in the media understands. He has a $5 mill bonus, team option. If it isn't paid, he's gone.oh the good old days.
Yes, I apparently did have a line on his contract that nobody else understood.
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@shepwrite said:
Lum, you must have a line on his contract that nobody in the media understands. He has a $5 mill bonus, team option. If it isn't paid, he's gone.oh the good old days.
Yes, I apparently did have a line on his contract that nobody else understood.
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Masters said:
What exactly was that. The post you just responded to noted if not paid he was gone. It was paid.
He wasn't not getting paid since it was GUARANTEED.
I don't know how many times I had to explain the definition of the word GUARANTEED.
Still there were the BQ hangers-on who crossed their fingers and hoped there was a way he wouldn't get that bonus
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Masters said:
What exactly was that. The post you just responded to noted if not paid he was gone. It was paid.He wasn't not getting paid since it was GUARANTEED.
I don't know how many times I had to explain the definition of the word GUARANTEED.
Still there were the BQ hangers-on who crossed their fingers and hoped there was a way he wouldn't get that bonus
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Honestly, you won't know how much better or worse BQ is until you see him n a real game. You just won't.yeah I bet he would throw 3 TDs in the first half if they would have given him the start at Detroilet, right shep?
Word of advice to anybody having to deal with these BQ Fags trying to say that BQ is an unknown who's never played....just tell them Brady Quinn played a shitload this preseason including 2 starts and got waxed by all the 1st and 2nd teamers including by the Detroilet defense. Then in the Detroilet post game presser RAC said BQ's got a lot to learn. If BQ Nation had a half an effing memory cell in their brain when it comes to the golden boy's play they'd know that anybody who plays him is gonna just keep blitzing him since he can't make any decision in the pocket whatsoever except to dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off.
yeah I bet he would throw 3 TDs in the first half if they would have given him the start at Detroilet, right shep?
Word of advice to anybody having to deal with these BQ Fags trying to say that BQ is an unknown who's never played....just tell them Brady Quinn played a shitload this preseason including 2 starts and got waxed by all the 1st and 2nd teamers including by the Detroilet defense. Then in the Detroilet post game presser RAC said BQ's got a lot to learn. If BQ Nation had a half an effing memory cell in their brain when it comes to the golden boy's play they'd know that anybody who plays him is gonna just keep blitzing him since he can't make any decision in the pocket whatsoever except to dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off.
Back to the classyness at hand for our poor misunderstood and abused poster.
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Word of advice to anybody having to deal with these BQ Fags trying to say that BQ is an unknown who's never played....just tell them Brady Quinn played a shitload this preseason including 2 starts and got waxed by all the 1st and 2nd teamers including by the Detroilet defense. Then in the Detroilet post game presser RAC said BQ's got a lot to learn. If BQ Nation had a half an effing memory cell in their brain when it comes to the golden boy's play they'd know that anybody who plays him is gonna just keep blitzing him since he can't make any decision in the pocket whatsoever except to dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off.
Talk about spot on. I think I should buy a lottery ticket tonight.
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Word of advice to anybody having to deal with these BQ Fags trying to say that BQ is an unknown who's never played....just tell them Brady Quinn played a shitload this preseason including 2 starts and got waxed by all the 1st and 2nd teamers including by the Detroilet defense. Then in the Detroilet post game presser RAC said BQ's got a lot to learn. If BQ Nation had a half an effing memory cell in their brain when it comes to the golden boy's play they'd know that anybody who plays him is gonna just keep blitzing him since he can't make any decision in the pocket whatsoever except to dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off.
Talk about spot on. I think I should buy a lottery ticket tonight.
Talk about spot on. I think I should buy a lottery ticket tonight.
Will you answer a serious question, for once:
Why are you like this?
I mean, message boards are ultimately about discussion but you are not interested in discussion.
You are interested in voicing your opinion and you have two opinions that you voice repeatedly. Any and all attempts to engage you in discussion are met with silence, crassness or a snide remark and that's all. There is not even the most basic attempt at human dialogue.
So I sincerely am reaching out, as seriously as an internet message board post can be from one actual person to another:
Why are you like this?
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This has to be the closest thing I have seen in main media to what many of us have concluded here:You've looked behind every bush, and turned over every stone.
And the fruit of your efforts is a comment from a guy who once worked at the U of Pitt who shares your view.
Well done, WPB.
You've looked behind every bush, and turned over every stone.
And the fruit of your efforts is a comment from a guy who once worked at the U of Pitt who shares your view.
Well done, WPB.
Matt Williamson is as knowledgable as it gets. He was a former scout with the Browns and is usually dead on with his assessments....as he is with DA
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