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  • TheClevelandSound TheClevelandSoundT
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    TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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    WTF guys....who is this guy?

    Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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      http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/phil-taylor?id=2495237
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        W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
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        i would have rather had jordan we need speed on the edge not a run stoper

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          Agree with WCWW...

          We needed an impact, blow it up kind of rusher. This is not that guy. Seen this guy play a good amount. Not impressed.

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            My question is, could we have gotten him at the 27th pick??

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              TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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              I really really really really really dont like our pick. But ill be scrutinized for saying this cuz he will turn out to be a beast or something. But i really think we couldve got this guy in the 2nd if we really wanted him.

              DUMB.

              Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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                U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by Unsympathetic
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                We have nobody on the roster beside Rubin at DT, and after Shaun Rogers was let go this is an essential pick. The Chiefs were going to take him at this position.

                The Ravens aren't as good without Ngata, likewise the Steelers without Casey Hampton

                From the ESPN review of him: "Taylor possesses rare size and athleticism at 6-3 and 334 pounds. He also has nimble feet and above-average range to make some plays outside the tackle box."

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                  TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                  Don't care. Should've went DE.

                  DUMB.

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                    cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                    Who ever he is, he was actually at the draft, so he was projected to possibly go in the 1st roud. We need a big boy up front, and we can still trade the Atlanta next year to get back into the 1st.

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                      ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                      Combine Workout Video On Phil Taylor

                      For being 6'-3", 334#'s, he sure moves well.

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                      • Leatherhead LeatherheadL
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                        LeatherheadL Leatherhead wrote on last edited by
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                        From nfl.com analysis:

                        Strengths

                        Taylor possesses rare size, has impressive strength, and good speed considering his weight. Very effective anchor at the point of the attack against the run and can take on the double team. Can be effective using the bull rush, coming off the ball and displays a jarring initial hand punch.

                        Weaknesses

                        Can play high at times. Won't chase down many plays or make many tackles outside the box. Doesn't have the first-stop quickness to consistently penetrate. Stamina is a concern. Has he has a tendency to wear down late in games and during long drives. Has some off-the-field issues and was dismissed from Penn State.

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                          C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                          phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft

                          everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside

                          he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"

                          the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position

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                            From nfl.com analysis:

                            Strengths

                            Taylor possesses rare size, has impressive strength, and good speed considering his weight. Very effective anchor at the point of the attack against the run and can take on the double team. Can be effective using the bull rush, coming off the ball and displays a jarring initial hand punch.

                            Weaknesses

                            Can play high at times. Won't chase down many plays or make many tackles outside the box. Doesn't have the first-stop quickness to consistently penetrate. Stamina is a concern. Has he has a tendency to wear down late in games and during long drives. Has some off-the-field issues and was dismissed from Penn State.

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                            E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                            @leatherhead said:

                            From nfl.com analysis:

                            Strengths

                            Taylor possesses rare size, has impressive strength, and good speed considering his weight. Very effective anchor at the point of the attack against the run and can take on the double team. Can be effective using the bull rush, coming off the ball and displays a jarring initial hand punch.

                            Weaknesses

                            Can play high at times. Won't chase down many plays or make many tackles outside the box. Doesn't have the first-stop quickness to consistently penetrate. Stamina is a concern. Has he has a tendency to wear down late in games and during long drives. Has some off-the-field issues and was dismissed from Penn State.

                            Leatherhead, I think that the stamina is a huge concern and that leads to injuries. He plays too high a lot and I've seen lesser OL handle him. What the hell is Pouncey going to do to him?

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                              We have nobody on the roster beside Rubin at DT, and after Shaun Rogers was let go this is an essential pick. The Chiefs were going to take him at this position.

                              The Ravens aren't as good without Ngata, likewise the Steelers without Casey Hampton

                              From the ESPN review of him: "Taylor possesses rare size and athleticism at 6-3 and 334 pounds. He also has nimble feet and above-average range to make some plays outside the tackle box."

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                              D dawg08 wrote on last edited by
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                              @unsympathetic said:

                              We have nobody on the roster beside Rubin at DT, and after Shaun Rogers was let go this is an essential pick. The Chiefs were going to take him at this position.

                              The Ravens aren't as good without Ngata, likewise the Steelers without Casey Hampton

                              From the ESPN review of him: "Taylor possesses rare size and athleticism at 6-3 and 334 pounds. He also has nimble feet and above-average range to make some plays outside the tackle box."

                              He must not have been that great if KC decided to trade for a 3rd round and to move to a #27.

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                                @leatherhead said:

                                From nfl.com analysis:

                                Strengths

                                Taylor possesses rare size, has impressive strength, and good speed considering his weight. Very effective anchor at the point of the attack against the run and can take on the double team. Can be effective using the bull rush, coming off the ball and displays a jarring initial hand punch.

                                Weaknesses

                                Can play high at times. Won't chase down many plays or make many tackles outside the box. Doesn't have the first-stop quickness to consistently penetrate. Stamina is a concern. Has he has a tendency to wear down late in games and during long drives. Has some off-the-field issues and was dismissed from Penn State.

                                Leatherhead, I think that the stamina is a huge concern and that leads to injuries. He plays too high a lot and I've seen lesser OL handle him. What the hell is Pouncey going to do to him?

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                                C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                @earl34 said:

                                Leatherhead, I think that the stamina is a huge concern and that leads to injuries. He plays too high a lot and I've seen lesser OL handle him. What the hell is Pouncey going to do to him?

                                stamina is a concern for all DTs

                                because every single play they get beat up by a guy just as big and probably stronger than them......often times they get beat up by 2 guys that are of equal or greater size

                                i always think its funny when people rip on defensive linemen for not being able to go every single play....maybe those people should spend a couple plays gettin blown up by a 6'4" 300lb center before they make any rash decisions about how much they think a defensive tackle should play

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                                  D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                  Boy, I'm sure glad a lot of you aren't our GM................ "I haven't heard the 'draft gurus' hype this guy for the last 2 months, so he must suck". Maybe we should just have Mel Kiper run our draft, that way, the fan base won't run around crying.

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                                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                    wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.

                                    Great pick, great trade, go browns!

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                                      Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by Mr. T
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                                      I'm not to interested in how other teams had him ranked. I am looking at how he will fit into our lineup and the whole scheme of things. The man has been reported at weighing in at 380 which may be to heavy for a man with feet problems like he has.

                                      But at 380 any center will have trouble moving him around. If we can get a couple of good years out of him I will be happy with the pick. I'm more stoked about the trade that gave us so many opportunities in jump starting us.

                                      Head or Gut?
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                                      • C CantonLegend

                                        phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft

                                        everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside

                                        he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"

                                        the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position

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                                        rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                                        @cantonlegend said:

                                        phil taylor is a stud. hes the top NT prospect in the draft

                                        everything starts from the inside out and phil taylor will definitly be the inside

                                        he was on a lot of teams boards from 22 to 32 and there was very little chance you would've been able to get him at 27 considering i heard the saints were "VERY INTERESTED"

                                        the only reason nobody has heard of him is because you guys all talked about the top 10 prospects in the draft but never considered the picks later in the round which is where it was obvious you'd be picking anyway considering its been a few years since the browns drafted at their original position

                                        We are going to 4-3 so how does NT equate?????????????

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                                          wow, I seriously thought I'd come back and see nothing but praise about the browns managed to do here. Guys, we had desperate need at DE, DT and WR. we can't fill all those friking picks with one. Phil Taylor has been nothing but solid and will be a starter from day one. We got a 2nd rounder and a first round pick next year to trade away from an extremely risky wide receiver, and took a solid DT which was an obvious need. I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick". It's kind of sad you guys don't trust that Holmgren and Heckert don't know what they're doing here. Like do you realize how deep the DE pool is this year people? This is the deepest DE pools in years, we will be able to a strong player to fill that need i'm sure of it.

                                          Great pick, great trade, go browns!

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                                          E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jrb12711 said:

                                          I swear it's like if we don't take the flashy guy that has his name spit out by mcshay or kiper it's a "bad pick".

                                          Great pick, great trade, go browns!

                                          I won't disagree about buying into Kiper and McShay too much. Remember when Kiper ripped the Polians for not taking Trent Dilfer? I think that this guy COULD be good but if you're waiting for this guy to blow up the AFC North, you might be waiting a while. Time will certainly tell. I loved the trade down from #7 but I am not sure I see this guy as the guy you trade back up to get.

                                          Obviously Heckert and Holmgren saw something they liked enough in this kid to do it. They make the $$$ to make that decision. I don't.

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