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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

    2010:

    Joe Haden

    TJ Ward

    Montario Hardesty

    Colt McCoy

    Shaun Lauvao

    Larry Assante

    Carlton Mitchell

    Clifford Geathers

    Your Grade:

    2009:

    Alex Mack

    Brian Robiskie

    Mohamed Massaquoi

    David Veikune

    Kailuka Maiava

    Don Carey

    Coye Francies

    James Davis

    Your Grade:

    2008

    Beau Bell

    Martin Rucker

    Ahtyba Rubin

    Paul Hubbard

    Alex Hall

    Your Grade:

    2007:

    Joe Thomas

    Brady Quinn

    Eric Wright

    Brandon McDonald

    Melila Purcell

    Chase Pittman

    Syndric Steptoe

    Your Grade:

    2006:

    Kameron Wimbley

    D'Qwell Jackson

    Travis Wilson

    Leon Williams

    Isaac Sowells

    Jerome Harrison

    DeMario Minter

    Lawrence Vickers

    Babatunde Owshinowo

    Justin Hamilton

    Your Grade:

    2005:

    Braylon Edwards

    Brodney Pool

    Charlie Frye

    Antonio Perkins

    David McMillan

    Nick Speegle

    Andrew Hoffman

    Jon Dunn

    Your Grade:

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      C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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      mangini might not be the best coach of all time....but he is elite when it comes to drafts.

      he brought a lot of talent to new york when he coached the jets and his drafts in cleveland turned out really well so far

      he is, in my mind, one of the best coaches at evaluating talent despite his win/loss record

      hopefully the brownies can continue the success that he started

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      • The GipperT The Gipper

        In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

        2010:

        Joe Haden

        TJ Ward

        Montario Hardesty

        Colt McCoy

        Shaun Lauvao

        Larry Assante

        Carlton Mitchell

        Clifford Geathers

        Your Grade:

        2009:

        Alex Mack

        Brian Robiskie

        Mohamed Massaquoi

        David Veikune

        Kailuka Maiava

        Don Carey

        Coye Francies

        James Davis

        Your Grade:

        2008

        Beau Bell

        Martin Rucker

        Ahtyba Rubin

        Paul Hubbard

        Alex Hall

        Your Grade:

        2007:

        Joe Thomas

        Brady Quinn

        Eric Wright

        Brandon McDonald

        Melila Purcell

        Chase Pittman

        Syndric Steptoe

        Your Grade:

        2006:

        Kameron Wimbley

        D'Qwell Jackson

        Travis Wilson

        Leon Williams

        Isaac Sowells

        Jerome Harrison

        DeMario Minter

        Lawrence Vickers

        Babatunde Owshinowo

        Justin Hamilton

        Your Grade:

        2005:

        Braylon Edwards

        Brodney Pool

        Charlie Frye

        Antonio Perkins

        David McMillan

        Nick Speegle

        Andrew Hoffman

        Jon Dunn

        Your Grade:

        bringbackbrownie2 B
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        B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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        @the-gipper said:

        In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

        2010:

        Joe Haden

        TJ Ward

        Montario Hardesty

        Colt McCoy

        Shaun Lauvao

        Larry Assante

        Carlton Mitchell

        Clifford Geathers

        Your Grade: A-

        If Colt Has a good year in 2011 this gets moved up to an A or A+ pretty fast. I'm also anxious to see if Hardesty can stay healthy and want to see Mitchell get some playing time..

        2009:

        Alex Mack

        Brian Robiskie

        Mohamed Massaquoi

        David Veikune

        Kailuka Maiava

        Don Carey

        Coye Francies

        James Davis

        Your Grade: C+

        Mack was a great pick despite ESPN saying it was a reach. Momass and Robo are still up in the air but the rest are nobody's.. Robo had a nice end to 2010 so hopefully he can build on that this year..

        2008:

        Beau Bell

        Martin Rucker

        Ahtyba Rubin

        Paul Hubbard

        Alex Hall

        Your Grade: C-

        Thank God for Ahtyba Rubin.

        2007:

        Joe Thomas

        Brady Quinn

        Eric Wright

        Brandon McDonald

        Melila Purcell

        Chase Pittman

        Syndric Steptoe

        Your Grade: B-

        This draft doesn't really deserve a B but the fact that we took Joe Thomas first and waited a bit for Quinn saved us a little. Just think how much worse (is it possible?) we could have been these past few years without Joe Thomas! I'm also praying Wright can have a rebound year.

        2006:

        Kameron Wimbley

        D'Qwell Jackson

        Travis Wilson

        Leon Williams

        Isaac Sowells

        Jerome Harrison

        DeMario Minter

        Lawrence Vickers

        Babatunde Owshinowo

        Justin Hamilton

        Your Grade: D+

        The plus is for Vickers. The rest of this draft is full of injured players, busts, and no names...

        2005:

        Braylon Edwards

        Brodney Pool

        Charlie Frye

        Antonio Perkins

        David McMillan

        Nick Speegle

        Andrew Hoffman

        Jon Dunn

        Your Grade: D-

        One good year out of "Stone hands" Edwards plus a mediocre safety. Pretty poor all around..

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

          2010:

          Joe Haden

          TJ Ward

          Montario Hardesty

          Colt McCoy

          Shaun Lauvao

          Larry Assante

          Carlton Mitchell

          Clifford Geathers

          Your Grade:

          2009:

          Alex Mack

          Brian Robiskie

          Mohamed Massaquoi

          David Veikune

          Kailuka Maiava

          Don Carey

          Coye Francies

          James Davis

          Your Grade:

          2008

          Beau Bell

          Martin Rucker

          Ahtyba Rubin

          Paul Hubbard

          Alex Hall

          Your Grade:

          2007:

          Joe Thomas

          Brady Quinn

          Eric Wright

          Brandon McDonald

          Melila Purcell

          Chase Pittman

          Syndric Steptoe

          Your Grade:

          2006:

          Kameron Wimbley

          D'Qwell Jackson

          Travis Wilson

          Leon Williams

          Isaac Sowells

          Jerome Harrison

          DeMario Minter

          Lawrence Vickers

          Babatunde Owshinowo

          Justin Hamilton

          Your Grade:

          2005:

          Braylon Edwards

          Brodney Pool

          Charlie Frye

          Antonio Perkins

          David McMillan

          Nick Speegle

          Andrew Hoffman

          Jon Dunn

          Your Grade:

          ClevelandFanForLife ClevelandFanForLifeC One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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          ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

          2010:

          Joe Haden

          TJ Ward

          Montario Hardesty

          Colt McCoy

          Shaun Lauvao

          Larry Assante

          Carlton Mitchell

          Clifford Geathers

          Your Grade: A-. We hit on 3 of our top 4 picks and Hardesty should be healthy this year.

          2009:

          Alex Mack

          Brian Robiskie

          Mohamed Massaquoi

          David Veikune

          Kailuka Maiava

          Don Carey

          Coye Francies

          James Davis

          Your Grade: D+. We basically took Mack with the number 5 overall pick.

          2008

          Beau Bell

          Martin Rucker

          Ahtyba Rubin

          Paul Hubbard

          Alex Hall

          Your Grade:C-. Rubin should be productive this year.

          2007:

          Joe Thomas

          Brady Quinn

          Eric Wright

          Brandon McDonald

          Melila Purcell

          Chase Pittman

          Syndric Steptoe

          Your Grade: C+. Thomas is a stud. We for a little production out of Wright for a while and Steptoe wans't God awful all the time.

          2006:

          Kameron Wimbley

          D'Qwell Jackson

          Travis Wilson

          Leon Williams

          Isaac Sowells

          Jerome Harrison

          DeMario Minter

          Lawrence Vickers

          Babatunde Owshinowo

          Justin Hamilton

          Your Grade: B-. 4 of those guys were productive at one time or another.

          2005:

          Braylon Edwards

          Brodney Pool

          Charlie Frye

          Antonio Perkins

          David McMillan

          Nick Speegle

          Andrew Hoffman

          Jon Dunn

          Your Grade: D-. None of these guys are with the team.

          once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy
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          • The GipperT The Gipper

            In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

            2010:

            Joe Haden

            TJ Ward

            Montario Hardesty

            Colt McCoy

            Shaun Lauvao

            Larry Assante

            Carlton Mitchell

            Clifford Geathers

            Your Grade:

            2009:

            Alex Mack

            Brian Robiskie

            Mohamed Massaquoi

            David Veikune

            Kailuka Maiava

            Don Carey

            Coye Francies

            James Davis

            Your Grade:

            2008

            Beau Bell

            Martin Rucker

            Ahtyba Rubin

            Paul Hubbard

            Alex Hall

            Your Grade:

            2007:

            Joe Thomas

            Brady Quinn

            Eric Wright

            Brandon McDonald

            Melila Purcell

            Chase Pittman

            Syndric Steptoe

            Your Grade:

            2006:

            Kameron Wimbley

            D'Qwell Jackson

            Travis Wilson

            Leon Williams

            Isaac Sowells

            Jerome Harrison

            DeMario Minter

            Lawrence Vickers

            Babatunde Owshinowo

            Justin Hamilton

            Your Grade:

            2005:

            Braylon Edwards

            Brodney Pool

            Charlie Frye

            Antonio Perkins

            David McMillan

            Nick Speegle

            Andrew Hoffman

            Jon Dunn

            Your Grade:

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            B blowe wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

            2010:

            Joe Haden

            TJ Ward

            Montario Hardesty

            Colt McCoy

            Shaun Lauvao

            Larry Assante

            Carlton Mitchell

            Clifford Geathers

            Your Grade:

            B. it will be an A if colt works out, which I do believe he will. I would say it was an A+ if Lauvao ends up doing well as a starting guard.

            2009:

            Alex Mack

            Brian Robiskie

            Mohamed Massaquoi

            David Veikune

            Kailuka Maiava

            Don Carey

            Coye Francies

            James Davis

            Your Grade:

            D+. Mack was a solid choice after trading down. Robiskie has a chance to be decent but he hasn't really showed up much in 2 years. Veikune, sucked. Maiava, meh. Carey, who? Francies, pass. Davis, bum.

            2008

            Beau Bell

            Martin Rucker

            Ahtyba Rubin

            Paul Hubbard

            Alex Hall

            Your Grade:

            D. Rubin was the only one worth a damn in here. Everyone else was terribad.

            2007:

            Joe Thomas

            Brady Quinn

            Eric Wright

            Brandon McDonald

            Melila Purcell

            Chase Pittman

            Syndric Steptoe

            Your Grade:

            C-. Joe Thomas was a total hit, but Quinn's bust after trading up for him still haunts me.. it also didn't give DA a chance to gain confidence and potentially improve himself, which set this team back lightyears. (I know DA is what he is, but he never had a chance to really run with a team's 1st offense and confidently lead a team.. in the end it is probably best he isn't on our team, but we will never really know) Eric Wright looked decent and then totally failed last season.

            2006:

            Kameron Wimbley

            D'Qwell Jackson

            Travis Wilson

            Leon Williams

            Isaac Sowells

            Jerome Harrison

            DeMario Minter

            Lawrence Vickers

            Babatunde Owshinowo

            Justin Hamilton

            Your Grade: C. I think we made a mistake getting rid of Wimbley, and if DQ stayed healthy this would be an alright draft. Funny how good we all thought harrison was when he was running through gaping holes made by our o line that season.

            2005:

            Braylon Edwards

            Brodney Pool

            Charlie Frye

            Antonio Perkins

            David McMillan

            Nick Speegle

            Andrew Hoffman

            Jon Dunn

            Your Grade: C. Braylon has turned out to be decent although not the elite he could be if he could hold on to the damn ball. Pool is ok at best. Another crappy draft, honestly.

            I like the way we have drafted the last 2 years with Holmgren/Heckert. I am thinking we are on our way to a rebuilding that will stick for good.

            "The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee
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            • The GipperT The Gipper

              In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

              2010:

              Joe Haden

              TJ Ward

              Montario Hardesty

              Colt McCoy

              Shaun Lauvao

              Larry Assante

              Carlton Mitchell

              Clifford Geathers

              Your Grade:

              2009:

              Alex Mack

              Brian Robiskie

              Mohamed Massaquoi

              David Veikune

              Kailuka Maiava

              Don Carey

              Coye Francies

              James Davis

              Your Grade:

              2008

              Beau Bell

              Martin Rucker

              Ahtyba Rubin

              Paul Hubbard

              Alex Hall

              Your Grade:

              2007:

              Joe Thomas

              Brady Quinn

              Eric Wright

              Brandon McDonald

              Melila Purcell

              Chase Pittman

              Syndric Steptoe

              Your Grade:

              2006:

              Kameron Wimbley

              D'Qwell Jackson

              Travis Wilson

              Leon Williams

              Isaac Sowells

              Jerome Harrison

              DeMario Minter

              Lawrence Vickers

              Babatunde Owshinowo

              Justin Hamilton

              Your Grade:

              2005:

              Braylon Edwards

              Brodney Pool

              Charlie Frye

              Antonio Perkins

              David McMillan

              Nick Speegle

              Andrew Hoffman

              Jon Dunn

              Your Grade:

              ClevelandBigDawg C
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              C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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              @the-gipper said:

              In my survey I asked you to grade this years draft, which, while fun, is perhaps a meaningless exercise since it will be several years before it can truly be graded. So, OK, lets go back a few years. Give a grade to our last several drafts. Here they are. Give your grade:

              2010:

              Joe Haden - Looks like a future ProBowler

              TJ Ward - ^That^

              Montario Hardesty - We will see

              Colt McCoy - Could be what we've been waiting for

              Shaun Lauvao - Wasn't overly impressed in his starts, but has the tools to be good

              Larry Assante - I believe he was starting in Tampa by the end of the year

              Carlton Mitchell - Didn't play enough to tell or see any progression

              Clifford Geathers - Not with the team

              Your Grade: A based upon the potential shown alone. We got potentially 5 or 6 starters Haden, Ward, Hardesty(looked real good, needs to stay healthy), McCoy, and Lauvao

              2009:

              Alex Mack - ProBowl in year 2. Very underrated around the league

              Brian Robiskie - Didn't like the pick at the time, still not thrilled but started to get it going towards the end of last year. Maybe the WCO will turn him around.

              Mohamed Massaquoi - Liked the pick at the time. Solid rookie outing, unimpressive 2nd year. Maybe with the WCO and Greg Little he will be solid again.

              David Veikune - BUST

              Kailuka Maiava - After reading about his boar hunting experiences I fell in love with this pick. Not expecting big things though

              Don Carey - We cut him and he caught on with JAX, IDK how he is doing there though.

              Coye Francies - showed promise rookie season, but has battled injury, who knows.

              James Davis - Looked like the steal of the draft in preseason rookie year, but it was well preseason.

              Your Grade: C+ because of Mack and maybe a couple of solid role players at WR.

              2008

              Beau Bell - Bust, never really showed promise

              Martin Rucker - Bust, showed a little promise but not much

              Ahtyba Rubin - Beast, was our best DL last year, bar-none.

              Paul Hubbard - Bust, had speed but no hands

              Alex Hall - Bust, showed a lot of potential, but never filled out and developed into a coverage guy

              (Can also say)

              Brady Quinn

              Corey Williams

              Shaun Rogers

              Your Grade: D+ because of Rubin. Williams was never as advertised and Rogers had 1.5ish productive years

              2007:

              Joe Thomas - BEAST. Best LT in the NFL now

              Brady Quinn - Bust, showed flashes, like against the Bills on that Thursday night game

              Eric Wright - Very solid, but teams started to pick on him last year and he was hurt. could still be solid.

              Brandon McDonald - meh, was decent, but never really amounted to anything

              Melila Purcell - Bust

              Chase Pittman - Bust

              Syndric Steptoe - Decent return man, and didnt do bad as a WR but is no longer with the team

              Your Grade: B Joe Thomas is enough to bring this D+ level class, without him, up to a B.

              2006:

              Kameron Wimbley - Great rookie season, kind of fell off till last year with the Raiders

              D'Qwell Jackson - Had a couple of great years but has battled injury since.

              Travis Wilson - Self-proclaimed best WR in the draft. Did he even make it to double digit catches?

              Leon Williams - Was very raw and athletic. We just never could develop him.

              Isaac Sowells - Thought we got a decent G with this pick, but never really made the field

              Jerome Harrison - Great year in 2009/2010. Showed tons of promise. Still confused with the trade.

              DeMario Minter - Loved this kid, but never amounted to anything

              Lawrence Vickers - Best FB in the league, will hate to see him go if he does.

              Babatunde Owshinowo - Thought we had ourselves a future NT, but lone-behold.

              Justin Hamilton - Had a lot of athleticism, not a lot of talent

              Your Grade: B. Wimbley, Jackson, Harrison, and Vickers are the only ones to get any PT. All 4 were and have been solid, even though Wimbley not with us any more.

              2005:

              Braylon Edwards - Had a good rookie season till he got hurt. Then had a tremendous year the year after he returned.

              Brodney Pool - Very solid S, but suffered a lot of injuries, and not a great cover guy

              Charlie Frye - Never really amounted to anything, but showed some promise.

              Antonio Perkins - ?

              David McMillan - ?

              Nick Speegle - ?

              Andrew Hoffman - ?

              Jon Dunn - ?

              Your Grade: C Edwards, although many call him a punk was solid for us, and has been solid for the Jets. As was Pool.

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                2010:

                Joe Haden

                TJ Ward

                Montario Hardesty

                Colt McCoy

                Shaun Lauvao

                Larry Assante

                Carlton Mitchell

                Clifford Geathers

                Your Grade: Post draft B, Now an A..

                2009:

                Alex Mack

                Brian Robiskie

                Mohamed Massaquoi

                David Veikune

                Kailuka Maiava

                Don Carey

                Coye Francies

                James Davis

                Your Grade:Post draft B, Now still undetermined but trending down..

                2008

                Beau Bell

                Martin Rucker

                Ahtyba Rubin

                Paul Hubbard

                Alex Hall

                Your Grade:Post draft C, Now an D

                2007:

                Joe Thomas

                Brady Quinn

                Eric Wright

                Brandon McDonald

                Melila Purcell

                Chase Pittman

                Syndric Steptoe

                Your Grade:Post draft A, Now an C

                2006:

                Kameron Wimbley

                D'Qwell Jackson

                Travis Wilson

                Leon Williams

                Isaac Sowells

                Jerome Harrison

                DeMario Minter

                Lawrence Vickers

                Babatunde Owshinowo

                Justin Hamilton

                Your Grade:Post draft B, Now an B

                2005:

                Braylon Edwards

                Brodney Pool

                Charlie Frye

                Antonio Perkins

                David McMillan

                Nick Speegle

                Andrew Hoffman

                Jon Dunn

                Your Grade: Post draft A, Now an C

                My now grades are based as much on active serviceable players in the league as much as the active browns players still on the team due to the fact that not every player is going to fit in every system..

                We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                  2010: A, tentatively. Colt could make it a B or an A+. Still to early to grade

                  2009: C-. You need to get more than one good player (Mack) out of the draft. Robo sucks and Mass is a 3rd receiver on any other team.

                  2008: D. Rubin keeps it from being an "f"

                  2007: C. Thomas & Wright, but wasted a #1 on Queen.

                  2006: D+. DQ Jackson.

                  2005: F. They all sucked for the Browns.

                  :neutral_face:
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