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  • We need Tom Tupa W
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    W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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    If Obama can deliver a college football playoff, I'll support extending him for a third term.

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    • heckofajobbrownie H
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      H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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      How would you design it?

      I'd say keep the Bowl game structure (negates the revenue complaints from the schools/NCAA) but the teams that finish in the final four play it out in a bracket: #1 v #4, #2 v #3, both neutral sites, then winner vs. winner in the Championship game.

      The semifinal games start the bowl season. The national title game ends it. All the other bowl games are played in between.

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        Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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        How many teams do you let in for the championship?

        Should they allow non bcs schools in the tournament also?

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        • H heckofajobbrownie

          How would you design it?

          I'd say keep the Bowl game structure (negates the revenue complaints from the schools/NCAA) but the teams that finish in the final four play it out in a bracket: #1 v #4, #2 v #3, both neutral sites, then winner vs. winner in the Championship game.

          The semifinal games start the bowl season. The national title game ends it. All the other bowl games are played in between.

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          W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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          @heckofajobbrownie said:

          How would you design it?

          I'd say keep the Bowl game structure (negates the revenue complaints from the schools/NCAA) but the teams that finish in the final four play it out in a bracket: #1 v #4, #2 v #3, both neutral sites, then winner vs. winner in the Championship game.

          The semifinal games start the bowl season. The national title game ends it. All the other bowl games are played in between.

          That sounds about right. My guess would be that pressure to expand to include more teams would build relatively rapidly. I could see 4 mega-conferences emerging, with auto bids for each champion (which would probably have won a conference final 4 to get the bid), and then 2 wild cards which could be from the big conferences or not. 2 teams get byes and we get 3 rounds of playoffs. Sounds fantastic.

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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            I don't know where our other thread went, Toop, but the follow up poll of GOP primary voters finds that 34% of them still don't believe Obama was born in America.

            Here's the question: “Do you think Barack Obama was born in the United States?”

            Yes: 48%

            No: 34%

            Not sure: 18%

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              I don't know where our other thread went, Toop, but the follow up poll of GOP primary voters finds that 34% of them still don't believe Obama was born in America.

              Here's the question: “Do you think Barack Obama was born in the United States?”

              Yes: 48%

              No: 34%

              Not sure: 18%

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              W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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              @heckofajobbrownie said:

              I don't know where our other thread went, Toop, but the follow up poll of GOP primary voters finds that 34% of them still don't believe Obama was born in America.

              Here's the question: “Do you think Barack Obama was born in the United States?”

              Yes: 48%

              No: 34%

              Not sure: 18%

              Idiots.

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                H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                But back to your BCS thread, I think this is actually a good thing for them to propose sometime over the summer during a slow news week. They don't have to spend time on it, but it'd be a good way to get the ball rolling and the conversation started.

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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  Using the existing bowls and adding 1 more to BCS status....maybe the outback bowl as an example.

                  Do it the way it is done now, then add 1 game as the championship. Just rotate that game on a yearly basis between the 5.

                  So yes Rose Bowl, that means if you want to be a part of the big game, once every 5 years you'll have to your parade one day and your game the other.

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                    I think you need more of a playoff system than simply adding another BCS bowl game. You need to find a way to keep the existing bowl system, but separating out the top teams who'll play in the bracket. I don't think it should be more than 4-8 teams. And I'd say you should do it by conference champions, like Tupa suggests, but in the past few years that wouldn't give you the best bracket. You'd have a team like Alabama playing Cincinnati or UConn, who may not have beaten anyone else. I'd rather use the BCS formula, or something like it, to get the real top teams into the dance, even if it meant 3 teams from the SEC, Oregon, Texas, and Ohio State, for example.

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                      I think you need more of a playoff system than simply adding another BCS bowl game. You need to find a way to keep the existing bowl system, but separating out the top teams who'll play in the bracket. I don't think it should be more than 4-8 teams. And I'd say you should do it by conference champions, like Tupa suggests, but in the past few years that wouldn't give you the best bracket. You'd have a team like Alabama playing Cincinnati or UConn, who may not have beaten anyone else. I'd rather use the BCS formula, or something like it, to get the real top teams into the dance, even if it meant 3 teams from the SEC, Oregon, Texas, and Ohio State, for example.

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                      @heckofajobbrownie said:

                      I think you need more of a playoff system than simply adding another BCS bowl game.

                      Well more bowl games = more money and there really are a lot of schools to try to sort out.

                      Don't know how they might do it.

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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        Obamao would put Fidel Castro's cousin Margarita in charge of the BCS.

                        Here's a good link to some ideas that might really work:

                        http://www.slate.com/id/91886/

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                          I think you need more of a playoff system than simply adding another BCS bowl game. You need to find a way to keep the existing bowl system, but separating out the top teams who'll play in the bracket. I don't think it should be more than 4-8 teams. And I'd say you should do it by conference champions, like Tupa suggests, but in the past few years that wouldn't give you the best bracket. You'd have a team like Alabama playing Cincinnati or UConn, who may not have beaten anyone else. I'd rather use the BCS formula, or something like it, to get the real top teams into the dance, even if it meant 3 teams from the SEC, Oregon, Texas, and Ohio State, for example.

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                          W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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                          @heckofajobbrownie said:

                          I think you need more of a playoff system than simply adding another BCS bowl game. You need to find a way to keep the existing bowl system, but separating out the top teams who'll play in the bracket. I don't think it should be more than 4-8 teams. And I'd say you should do it by conference champions, like Tupa suggests, but in the past few years that wouldn't give you the best bracket. You'd have a team like Alabama playing Cincinnati or UConn, who may not have beaten anyone else. I'd rather use the BCS formula, or something like it, to get the real top teams into the dance, even if it meant 3 teams from the SEC, Oregon, Texas, and Ohio State, for example.

                          By giving autobids to conference champs, conference championships become the first round of the playoffs. I think that could work. And if not, we just add a couple at large bids to the mix.

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                            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                            Yeah, I wouldn't discount the conference championship games. It might not be a bad way to go. But if you take last season, my version would have featured a Auburn-Stanford and Oregon-TCU semifinal to start the bowl season. A team like Wisconsin would lose out in that scenario, but you're going to have to leave some team off no matter what you do.

                            But I think as soon as you make it six (with byes) eight you're asking the top two teams to play for three extra games. That might be a bit much. This way you get one game in mid-December, then bowl season, then the national championship in mid-January.

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