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  • Kovah K
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    Not sure if this has been posted yet. LINK: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8202dd8b/article/roth-not-a-big-fan-of-browns-new-43-defensive-scheme?module=HP_headlines

    Roth not a big fan of Browns' new 4-3 defensive scheme

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    Published: June 5, 2011 at 12:53 p.m. Updated: June 5, 2011 at 05:06 p.m.

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    There's a new regime in Cleveland, but linebacker Matt Roth doesn't seem to be on board.

    "I feel the Browns are on the right track. But going into my seventh season, I want to play for a winner," the potential free agent told The Plain Dealer. "I do feel the Browns are right there. They've done a good job. I'm not sure what's going to happen."

    When the Browns hired Pat Shurmur to replace fired coach Eric Mangini in January, Rob Ryan, the defensive coordinator, announced he was leaving with one year left on his contract to join the Dallas Cowboys. Roth, who played defensive end in a 4-3 scheme in college at Iowa before converting to linebacker in a 3-4, didn't sound enthused about switching back under new coordinator Dick Jauron, who told the Chronicle-Telegram that he wants to run a "very aggressive" 4-3 defense.

    "I challenge you to (find) one player who wouldn't run through a wall for him (Ryan)," Roth told The Plain Dealer. "I love playing that style. I know Dick Jauron's a good coach, but I don't want to have to deal with no nonsense. Just want to come in and play, do my job and have fun. That's a big factor in wherever I go."

    Roth played in all 16 games for the Browns last season, registering 3½ sacks and a career-high 86 tackles. Much like Ryan, Roth had complimentary things to say about his former coach.

    "I think Mangini was a great coach," Roth said. "I don't think anyone ever quit in either of those years (the Browns' back-to-back 5-11 seasons). We beat up on some pretty damn good teams. We didn't have an easy schedule."

    Roth also said youth played a large part in the team's record, saying "if we could have added a veteran to that mix and (gotten) those wide receivers going, I think we could have won at least eight games, easily."

    Fullback Lawrence Vickers, also a potential free agent, recently alluded to his time in Cleveland being over as well, saying he understands business but hopes "I don't have to come to Cleveland in a different uniform, because it's gonna be bad (for the Browns)."

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    • Xanthros XanthrosX
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      XanthrosX Xanthros wrote on last edited by
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      See ya...don't let the door hit ya on the way out!!!! I don't want anyone on the team who doesn't believe. As far as Vickers is concerned, it does suck, but all I can remember about his catching skills is him doin his best BE impression in the flats... Sometimes these are just the breaks, I just hope he doesn't stay in the division.

      Who let the DAWGS out??
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      • Harry Buffalo Harry BuffaloH
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        Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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        Why even post this. Everyone knows that Roth has either wanted out or given a multi year deal since last season. I don't blame the guy because he has been playing on 1 years deals for several seasons. He isn't going to get a multi year deal here to see if he can still play DE and he doesn't want to switch to a 4-3 anyway.

        Ruining threads since 1897.
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          halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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          I don't want to lose either guy, but the thought of losing Vickers stings.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            This might bother me....if Roth were a Pro Bowl caliber player. He is not. He is one of the interchangeable, mediocre members of the Browns LB corps. I suspect he would not even be a starter on 80% of the NFL teams. I am not saying he sucks, I am simply saying that he is eminently replaceable.

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              GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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              Roth is not that great and he has a real mercenary attitude about the game, he is a dime a dozen and easily replaced, however if the regime gets rid of vickers it will prove to be a huge mistake as he is more than capable of doing everything a WCO fullback needs to do, he has always done what was asked of him without a quibble and i hope he gets a chance to stay a brown and prove he can not only catch the ball but pummel defenders after he does..

              We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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                Gotta agree goodbye to Roth i kinda saw that one coming as to Vickers hes someone i want to see stay a brown, i love his style and even though he dosent fit are new scheme you wanna bring in an unknown to replace someone whos done a tremendous job of what he was asked to do,theres a big leap of faith there...Marecic has some shoes to fill

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                • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

                  Why even post this. Everyone knows that Roth has either wanted out or given a multi year deal since last season. I don't blame the guy because he has been playing on 1 years deals for several seasons. He isn't going to get a multi year deal here to see if he can still play DE and he doesn't want to switch to a 4-3 anyway.

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                  BrownsBackerB BrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                  Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                  Why even post this.

                  Why post anything? Why promote discussion?

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                    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                    Why even post this.

                    Why post anything? Why promote discussion?

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                    Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                    @brownsbacker said:

                    Why post anything? Why promote discussion?

                    I'm saying it's like coming on here and starting a topic saying that there is a lockout. Old news.

                    Ruining threads since 1897.
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                      @brownsbacker said:

                      Why post anything? Why promote discussion?

                      I'm saying it's like coming on here and starting a topic saying that there is a lockout. Old news.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                      I'm saying it's like coming on here and starting a topic saying that there is a lockout. Old news.

                      You are the guy that has The Predator in your postscript and wrongly calls it the "Alien". You really need to get rid of that! Old News? Yes, but still fodder for conversation.

                      Maybe the one topic worth discussing is Katy Perry's boobs? How's that for a topic?:

                      perry1.jpg

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                        Hillis-iz-Boss said:

                        I'm saying it's like coming on here and starting a topic saying that there is a lockout. Old news.

                        You are the guy that has The Predator in your postscript and wrongly calls it the "Alien". You really need to get rid of that! Old News? Yes, but still fodder for conversation.

                        Maybe the one topic worth discussing is Katy Perry's boobs? How's that for a topic?:

                        perry1.jpg

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                        Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        You are the guy that has The Predator in your postscript and wrongly calls it the "Alien". You really need to get rid of that! Old News? Yes, but still fodder for conversation.

                        Maybe the one topic worth discussing is Katy Perry's boobs? How's that for a topic?:

                        perry1.jpg

                        Is one larger than the other?

                        Head or Gut?
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                          alporciniA alporcini wrote on last edited by
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                          I have never had the feeling that Roth ever wanted to be in Cleveland in the first place...

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                            J jnuh wrote on last edited by
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                            Roth and Vickers are both nothing special.

                            I honestly would much rather keep Roth because we need the help along the line but he can be easily replaced.

                            As for Vickers I think he is one of those guys that Browns fans overrate because he is our player. I am NOT saying he is a bum, but he is nothing special. He will be replaced easily by Owen Meric or who ever ends up replacing him.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              You are the guy that has The Predator in your postscript and wrongly calls it the "Alien". You really need to get rid of that! Old News? Yes, but still fodder for conversation.

                              Maybe the one topic worth discussing is Katy Perry's boobs? How's that for a topic?:

                              perry1.jpg

                              Is one larger than the other?

                              The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @mr.-t said:

                              Is one larger than the other?

                              No, one is just hidden by a larger part of her right arm. Call it "Fun Optical Illusions with Katy Perry's Boobs".

                              Recall that her Sesame Show was pulled because the outfits she wore showed too much cleavage. What a wasted educational opportunity.

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                              • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                Is this better? Why they ditched this show, I don't know:

                                blog280910_katy-perry-simpsons.jpg

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                                  nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                  Im not surprised honestly....I really think Matt Roth is all about Matt Roth...

                                  Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                                    V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
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                                    I really, really like Katy's boobies.

                                    And Roth is not going to come back to the team because of the change. Lets face it we have had a lot of change and he isn't getting any younger. He needs to do what is best for him. I like him and his attitude but he wasn't kicking major ass out there to be honest. Vickers is the man but it is all about the dollars. We need to get younger and we'll need the money to sign whoever we pick with those 2 1st rounders next season.

                                    Heckert knows that and so does Roth and Vickers.

                                    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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                                      C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by CLEVELandMILIDH
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                                      It's funny Rob Ryan said Roth was his best defensive player and some of you guys act like he's a nobody. He more than likely won't be back since he's a run stopper, and playing DE in the new system you have to be a pass rusher. So he's not a fit, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best run stoppers in the game.

                                      His situation is kinda like working through a temp agency for 3 years and never getting hired. Don't blame his attitude one bit, if you were working a temp job and had a chance to go to a permanent job with better pay you damn sure would do it to.

                                      1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                        It's funny Rob Ryan said Roth was his best defensive player and some of you guys act like he's a nobody. He more than likely won't be back since he's a run stopper, and playing DE in the new system you have to be a pass rusher. So he's not a fit, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best run stoppers in the game.

                                        His situation is kinda like working through a temp agency for 3 years and never getting hired. Don't blame his attitude one bit, if you were working a temp job and had a chance to go to a permanent job with better pay you damn sure would do it to.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @clevelandmilidh said:

                                        It's funny Rob Ryan said Roth was his best defensive player and some of you guys act like he's a nobody. He more than likely won't be back since he's a run stopper, and playing DE in the new system you have to be a pass rusher. So he's not a fit, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best run stoppers in the game.

                                        His situation is kinda like working through a temp agency for 3 years and never getting hired. Don't blame his attitude one bit, if you were working a temp job and had a chance to go to a permanent job with better pay you damn sure would do it to.

                                        I am sorry, I can't hear what you are saying because I am distracted right now:

                                        katy-perry-nude-boob-photo_395.jpg

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          Which conversation should I consent to be a part of? The one about Matt Roth who is no boy scout:

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                                          or the one about Katy Perry's boobs?

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