We Lost. It Sucked. But There Were Some Positives.
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The team looked terribly undisciplined. I miss Mangini already.
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Blame Haden if you want on that TD catch because it is his fault, but NO ONE on the defense was ready and the WR was 20 yards wide open on the other side of the field as well. Besides that fact that our most of our O-Line minus Mack looked like a pile of shit I think the person I was most disappointed in was Ward. Was 20 yards out of position on Bensons TD run and got burnt in coverage all day.
Jackson played extremely well, both Phil Taylor and Rubin played very well, I think Sheard is still showing improvement, MoMass showed some stuff, Hardesty and Hillis did well considering that shitty blocking, McCoy was good when he could get some protection, Joe Haden minus that one play had a all pro caliber day. Considering all of that it doesn't matter when you end up shitting down your leg and losing to one of the worst football teams in the NFL. The shittiest part was that I think the coaching schemes were good, the players lost this one. If I were Shurmer I would run make them all run a lap for every single penalty flag and I would make them do it as a team. Mangini might not have been a great coach but he had the right idea when it came to punishing players for mistakes and it worked, 3rd fewest penalties called the last two seasons. That shit is embarrassing and Shurmer should be pissed.
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Well, the Colts and Steelers got blasted, and they don't have a new coach with a complete new system with a bunch of new players playing new positions...
and they still played intense, and nearly could have won the game.
I figured they've have problems with two completely new guys on the offensive line.
Though, Pinkston got manhandled by one dlineman several times, being pushed right into the backfield near McCoy..
The Browns had a nice pass rush, made adjustments started shutting down the run, and Haden
played an outstanding game. But for the one play, Green wouldn't have been able to get one catch, I think.
Learning, jelling experience. But RT and Lg is still a major problem, and we need a new cb opposite Haden.
The old guy they have there just isn't quick enough anymore.
I bet they bounce back next week bigtime.
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No positives with a game like that.
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No positives.
0-1.
Conference loss.
Lose against a terrible team with a backup qb.
In my drunkeness, i can't see anything to be happy about now.
No positives.
0-1.
Conference loss.
Lose against a terrible team with a backup qb.
In my drunkeness, i can't see anything to be happy about now.
3 outta your 4 statements are as true as it gets....drunk or not. Saw a few positives from what peices I was able to stay awake for.
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3 outta your 4 statements are as true as it gets....drunk or not. Saw a few positives from what peices I was able to stay awake for.
AND I wasn't sleepin cause it wasn't a snoozer of a game, just lifes circumstances forcin me do so. Haven't missed a game or part, (half in todays case) be it live, t.v. or radio for as long as I can remember.prolly since I was 8 and I feel bad cause it was over friggin sleep lol
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This franchise stinks. I didn't expect anything different. I just hope when they are 0-2 when I'm at the Dolphin game they win. What makes me laugh is every year Browns fans are sooo optimistic and the reality is this franchise is so poorly managed they will never be successful. They are the Clippers of the NFL....
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I read this book last year.
I very much believe when it was 17-13 we changed our offensive attack and defensive scheme to burn clock and when it started raining the bengals caught us in one of the worst defense laps maybe in all of professional history not one personal was lined up to cover anyone, that ended the game... i had a glimmer of hope when i thought Josh broke the side line with 3:30 left and i saw Little deck him with the best hit in the game and all the energy i built up the last 60 days exploded out of my chest and i am xxxxing PISSED OFF
Division Loss to the Bengals .... Rookie QB goes down and their backup burns us for the game terrible
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Like i said before im not really measuring the browns progress by wins and losses this year, there was some very good things going on underneath the obvious fact that this is a new system with new coaches that had very little time to prepare the club..
Anyone that thinks mangini could have done any better needs to take their blinders off, this team has a ways to go before it gets where it needs to go but we will see growth as the season wears on and the players meld and gel, it still sucks being a browns fan and will for a while longer...
This team seems to have a real problem with playing in wet weather, may i suggest cold water hoses and sprinklers at practice this week?
At least coach shurmur puts the rap on himself along with his players the whole team has much to do not for this year as much as for next year..
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
Like i said before im not really measuring the browns progress by wins and losses this year, there was some very good things going on underneath the obvious fact that this is a new system with new coaches that had very little time to prepare the club..
Anyone that thinks mangini could have done any better needs to take their blinders off, this team has a ways to go before it gets where it needs to go but we will see growth as the season wears on and the players meld and gel, it still sucks being a browns fan and will for a while longer...
This team seems to have a real problem with playing in wet weather, may i suggest cold water hoses and sprinklers at practice this week?
At least coach shurmur puts the rap on himself along with his players the whole team has much to do not for this year as much as for next year..
Like i said before im not really measuring the browns progress by wins and losses this year, there was some very good things going on underneath the obvious fact that this is a new system with new coaches that had very little time to prepare the club..
Anyone that thinks mangini could have done any better needs to take their blinders off, this team has a ways to go before it gets where it needs to go but we will see growth as the season wears on and the players meld and gel, it still sucks being a browns fan and will for a while longer...
This team seems to have a real problem with playing in wet weather, may i suggest cold water hoses and sprinklers at practice this week?
I don't wanna start a mangini vs shurmur thread cuz shurmur is our future but manginis teams were disciplined and didn't commit penalties like this one.
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Like i said before im not really measuring the browns progress by wins and losses this year, there was some very good things going on underneath the obvious fact that this is a new system with new coaches that had very little time to prepare the club..
Anyone that thinks mangini could have done any better needs to take their blinders off, this team has a ways to go before it gets where it needs to go but we will see growth as the season wears on and the players meld and gel, it still sucks being a browns fan and will for a while longer...
This team seems to have a real problem with playing in wet weather, may i suggest cold water hoses and sprinklers at practice this week?
At least coach shurmur puts the rap on himself along with his players the whole team has much to do not for this year as much as for next year..
Like i said before im not really measuring the browns progress by wins and losses this year, there was some very good things going on underneath the obvious fact that this is a new system with new coaches that had very little time to prepare the club..
Anyone that thinks mangini could have done any better needs to take their blinders off, this team has a ways to go before it gets where it needs to go but we will see growth as the season wears on and the players meld and gel, it still sucks being a browns fan and will for a while longer...
This team seems to have a real problem with playing in wet weather, may i suggest cold water hoses and sprinklers at practice this week?
At least coach shurmur puts the rap on himself along with his players the whole team has much to do not for this year as much as for next year..
If the NFL didn't measure progress by wins and losses the Browns would have a shot at the SuperBowl
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holmgren looks like a genius today. i'm really trying to hold back with the anti-holmgren thing, because like many of you with all these prognostications i could turn out looking like an ass.
yes it's the first game of a new season with little time to prepare. hmmmm....just like every other team in the NFL.
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Like i said before im not really measuring the browns progress by wins and losses this year, there was some very good things going on underneath the obvious fact that this is a new system with new coaches that had very little time to prepare the club..
Anyone that thinks mangini could have done any better needs to take their blinders off, this team has a ways to go before it gets where it needs to go but we will see growth as the season wears on and the players meld and gel, it still sucks being a browns fan and will for a while longer...
This team seems to have a real problem with playing in wet weather, may i suggest cold water hoses and sprinklers at practice this week?
I don't wanna start a mangini vs shurmur thread cuz shurmur is our future but manginis teams were disciplined and didn't commit penalties like this one.
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There really are not a lot of positives to this game. The one thing that we have to do is turn the negatives into a positive by learning from them.
But we looked great to come back and take a lead and then it just went to crap. Colt looked dazed and confused at time. It appears that he stood to long in a collapsing pocket. It also appears that he may have been to close to the OL.. .for example. We started watching the Giants game. Manning took a snap from behind center, and was 6 yards back after the snap. I will have to go back and watch Colt some more but it looked like he stood way to close to OL and hung out in the pocket way to long to often.
Were was the snap and intensity of our offense compared to our first two pre-season games. We looked out of sync on offense.
Our secondary was again too many times playing way to far off their men. I'm tired of seeing guys wide open. Ugh..
I hate to say it, but Colt had to many passes knocked down, I hope he is tall enough for this league or we have to adjust our offense more.. maybe shotgun more.
Where we the slants. Were were the quick outs.
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Players didn't execute, coaches sucked, and pretty much just looked like a deer in headlights.
They hit their stride when they scored 17 unanswered, but then they put it in neutral and tried to coast to the victory with a 4 point lead.
I will make 1 excuse for them and that is that they had a short offseason to bring in all new coaches, many new players, and try to prepare for an NFL season. I just don't think they looked prepared. After they took the lead, it seemed that they were still trying to learn the offense and they were going into the 2nd half of a preseason game.
I was pleased with Haden, EMoore, DJackson, and MoMass. Thomas, Mack, Rubin, Taylor all played well as expected.
Colt McCoy should never again throw the ball 40 times in a game when we have Hillis in our backfield. That was just insane and I hope Shurmur realizes that he needs to get the ball to #40 a little more.
Lastly, I can't stress enough how badly we will miss Steinbach this year... long season, but we'll get some Ws.
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And,
Does anybody else think Robiskie should be dropped down the depth chart?
I love the Buckeyes, but this guy never gets open. Maybe we need to put Little and Cribbs in the game more and quit wasting time with this guy.
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