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Is Hillis Going Walk?

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  • SojuS Soju

    @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Gip, I wasn't condemning his fans. As my post pointed out, I too understand getting behind a guy when we have had such a drought at his position.

    Still, HIllis is not now, nor is he ever going to be equal to Bettis or Earl Campbell.

    We have a weak schedule and still, he will not have a great year.

    We arn't going to see eye to eye on this guy, so lets watch him fizzle and talk in December.

    You can't compare Hillis to a Jerome Bettis. Look at the OL Bettis had to run behind: ALL-PRO. If you insert Hillis in with Pitt's O-Line at that time, he gets it done just as well as Bettis. They are the SAME kind of RB. Unless you think the RB makes the OL, which it doesn't, rather it's the opposite, plain and simple.

    And we have a weak schedule and yet you forecasting our downfall? Yes, let's wait 'till December, shall we?

    @soju said:

    You can't compare Hillis to a Jerome Bettis. Look at the OL Bettis had to run behind: ALL-PRO. If you insert Hillis in with Pitt's O-Line at that time, he gets it done just as well as Bettis. They are the SAME kind of RB. Unless you think the RB makes the OL, which it doesn't, rather it's the opposite, plain and simple.

    And we have a weak schedule and yet you forecasting our downfall? Yes, let's wait 'till December, shall we?

    while it is true Bettis did have a better O-line you're wrong about hillis being the same as Bettis.

    Bettis, by all accounts, had some of the quickest feet and short movement explosivness than any back anywhere near his size.

    oh, and i will say that most of the fans on my Steeler forum are salivating at the prospect of maybe being able to snatch Hillis away.

    with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben.
  • G Gafreleets

    @soju said:

    You can't compare Hillis to a Jerome Bettis. Look at the OL Bettis had to run behind: ALL-PRO. If you insert Hillis in with Pitt's O-Line at that time, he gets it done just as well as Bettis. They are the SAME kind of RB. Unless you think the RB makes the OL, which it doesn't, rather it's the opposite, plain and simple.

    And we have a weak schedule and yet you forecasting our downfall? Yes, let's wait 'till December, shall we?

    while it is true Bettis did have a better O-line you're wrong about hillis being the same as Bettis.

    Bettis, by all accounts, had some of the quickest feet and short movement explosivness than any back anywhere near his size.

    oh, and i will say that most of the fans on my Steeler forum are salivating at the prospect of maybe being able to snatch Hillis away.

    @gafreleets said:

    while it is true Bettis did have a better O-line you're wrong about hillis being the same as Bettis.

    Bettis, by all accounts, had some of the quickest feet and short movement explosivness than any back anywhere near his size.

    oh, and i will say that most of the fans on my Steeler forum are salivating at the prospect of maybe being able to snatch Hillis away.

    that would be my biggest fear... hillis going to someone like the steelers.🙁 if that happens, i dare say twice a year we will regret it...

    pay the man, he is worth a few million a year, compared to some of these inflated contracts. 10 mil a year is of course out of the question. (dont know what he's expecting) but even 5-6 mil would be enough (hopefully) to keep him with us a few years. and not against us. hardesty needs some time to show what he can or cant do. only makes sense. shurmur is not as dumb as a lot here in this forum seem to think he is. hillis will get his reps. lets not make something out of nothing. until we hear something to the contrary, i believe this is all speculation, which can be a very dangerous thing. our team will not be super overnight, this is year one with shurmur. only year two with colt and hillis. guys, only good things are ahead for this team, and the direction they're headed. lol... let's not make up controversy until we hear of something concrete. 😁

  • The way I see it if we can afford to give evan moore a 2 yr. Extension worth 3 mil a year, there should be no problem doing a deal for hillis. Give him a 4yr ext. Worth about 24-28 mil. And both sides should be happy.

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!

  • Like so many others have already said, Hillis is not AP and therefore is not worth AP level money. I do think we need to try our best to resign him but believe the Front Office is waiting to see how he produces this year before offering him anything. The Front Office wants to see how Hillis does in the West Coast Offense while also seeing how Hardesty does, each back has their pros and cons. I like the idea of the Front Office waiting to see how Hillis produces this year so they don't overpay him for last years breakout season.

    I know the general philosphy of the WCO is for the "pass to set up the run" but I would rather see it the other way around. Hillis and Hardesty run the ball then use the short to intermediate passes to get the 1st down. Doing it this way would enable Little and Cribbs to get single coverage and use their physicality and agility to move the chains.

    Never walk away from home ahead of your axe and sword. You can't feel a battle in your bones or forsee a fight. -The Havamal (Book of Viking Wisdom)

  • trade him to the Pats for one of their first round picks....

  • tampadawgsT tampadawgs

    trade him to the Pats for one of their first round picks....

    @tampadawgs said:

    trade him to the Pats for one of their first round picks....

    The Pats are all set with BJGE and Ridley. Also, the best we could get for Hillis would be a 4th.

  • it IS the madden curse for hillis this year, but self inflicted. i guess along with the cover on some video game comes a big head and thoughts of big money.

    sure he's worth more but what's the life expectancy (in football) for a RB, 3 years average? so he's on the down slope of his career?

    so tell me, who wanted hillis in this trade with denver if we knew we were switching to this bullshit WCO and he wouldn't fit into the system? yeah, there's your genius holmgren. fat fxxk.

  • Talent starved Cleveland can ill afford any dissension in the locker room. Show some love, tell Hillis he will get market valure with some incentives and

    end the distraction. jfs

  • Say the Front Office does let Hillis walk because they can't come to a contract negotiation and now all we have is Hardesty, who shows promise, and Jackson, who is currently on IR. Do we go after a big time RB in the draft? For example; Trent Richardson from Alabama, Marcus Lattimore from South Carolina or Dyer out of Auburn.

    Never walk away from home ahead of your axe and sword. You can't feel a battle in your bones or forsee a fight. -The Havamal (Book of Viking Wisdom)

  • last year we wouldn't even be having this conversation because of his production.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    last year we wouldn't even be having this conversation because of his production.

    @miktoxic said:

    last year we wouldn't even be having this conversation because of his production.

    You're right. But the NFL is the "what have you done for me lately" league. And last season, he got a lot more carries and was sort of an unknown.

    I think it's easy to game plan against the Browns Offense. The defense just has to play up to the line. WCO means short throws and bruiser back means crash up through the line.

  • Hmmm.. Article in Yahoo Sports bringing this up now.. What the Hell.. seriously.. A player that this team wants to root for and see play and we are going to let him walk... Lord I hope not.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aqr87TN_hBr5sAlFZDaNOklDubYF?slug=ap-browns-hillis

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