Fire Shurmer?
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How was this guy an OC in the NFL? Twice... Twice.... Twice he called a draw play within the 8 yard line? Not going for it fourth and inches on the road, against Pukesburg, on the first drive of the game, when you're a 20 point underdog???? Running to Marecic on third down with Hillis when that is 100% clear what you are going to do? Inept playcalling has no excuse, and I for one am tired of it. I can understand players losing on the field, but the coach is losing us games.
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he's an idiot for sure.
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How was this guy an OC in the NFL? Twice... Twice.... Twice he called a draw play within the 8 yard line? Not going for it fourth and inches on the road, against Pukesburg, on the first drive of the game, when you're a 20 point underdog???? Running to Marecic on third down with Hillis when that is 100% clear what you are going to do? Inept playcalling has no excuse, and I for one am tired of it. I can understand players losing on the field, but the coach is losing us games.
How was this guy an OC in the NFL? Twice... Twice.... Twice he called a draw play within the 8 yard line? Not going for it fourth and inches on the road, against Pukesburg, on the first drive of the game, when you're a 20 point underdog???? Running to Marecic on third down with Hillis when that is 100% clear what you are going to do? Inept playcalling has no excuse, and I for one am tired of it. I can understand players losing on the field, but the coach is losing us games.
Shurmur is no doubt the biggest dumbass out on that field on game day. His predictable and shetty play-calling has cost this team at least 3 games. Ask the Ram fans they know that he's a piece of dung and they were glad to get rid of him!! He's clueless and lets hope that he doesn't call another offensive play after this year!!
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Shurmur is an idiot not unlike the last 2 idiot coaches we have had, only difference is they call this overly conservative joke of a coach an offensive minded coach lemme tell ya RAC was more offensive minded than this 5 and dime pea brained dunce..
Putting colt back in rattled after seneca made a great throw pretty much finishes my evaluation of shurmur and the rams fans were right we have an overly conservative playcalling idiot as our head coach that plays to lose, just another lerner instantly approved guy that dont know the secrets of winning, clearly holmgren gave fritz's baby nephew this job on our nickel and lerner give holmgren his job on our backs..
Just like players coaches either have the instinct or they dont and clearly squirmer doesnt..
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I can't understand not calling a QB sneak on the half yard line... WTF.
Again, I've seen eleven year olds call Madden games better than this clown.
Then not going for it on fourth down.... did he really think 3 points was going to get it done?
I can't understand not calling a QB sneak on the half yard line... WTF.
Then not going for it on fourth down.... did he really think 3 points was going to get it done?
Consider that we went for a QB sneak at midfield later on in the game. And it worked perfectly.
Shurmur has got a lot to answer today.
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Yes, I've never disliked a new coach so quickly. It was not a good idea to change defensive schemes, and have a rookie head coach at the same time.
I doubt they can him, but so-called genius Holmgren better get him a qualified Offensive Coordinator, and some WRs.
Why wasn't Ogbonnaya playing more? He's better than Hardesty.
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Yes, I've never disliked a new coach so quickly. It was not a good idea to change defensive schemes, and have a rookie head coach at the same time.
I doubt they can him, but so-called genius Holmgren better get him a qualified Offensive Coordinator, and some WRs.
Why wasn't Ogbonnaya playing more? He's better than Hardesty.
Yes, I've never disliked a new coach so quickly. It was not a good idea to change defensive schemes, and have a rookie head coach at the same time.
I doubt they can him, but so-called genius Holmgren better get him a qualified Offensive Coordinator, and some WRs.
Why wasn't Ogbonnaya playing more? He's better than Hardesty.
Ogbonnaya does seem to be hitting the holes with much more speed than he was when he started. That draw play on 3rd and long, he looked like he shifted into a gear I haven't seen before.
If I was coach, I'd seriously think about starting Hillis at Fullback and letting Ogbonnaya and Hardesty split carries behind him (or hell, let Cribbs run it behind him)or split into the Pro Set formation. They haven't run well out of the singleback formation at all. I think Hillis would cause some issues for a defense out of the backfield with another RB behind him. You could hand it to him, have him lead block, or throw it to him on play action. Not to mention it allows them to keep more of their weapons on the field at once.
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great idea.....fire a coach less than a year after he gets hired......genius
god you browns fans are so smart
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As a fifty year Ram fan I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say Shurmur was the most universally hated Ram OC since the late fifties. His play calling was timid to the point of lunacy. Totally disgusting with no balls. It seemed 99% of 3rd down pass completions in the "Murmur" offense were thrown short of the first down. Getting rid of Shurmur was a glorious day for Ram fans. I couldn't believe anyone would be stupid enough to hire him, particularly as a HC.
Having said all that I watched the Steelers game last night and Shurmur has come a long way. He's gone from being a total wuss to a guy that can call a decent game. I didn't agree with everything in the Steeler game, I couldn't believe he didn't go with the QB sneak at the goal line, but all in all you guys have no idea how badly he sucked for the Rams.
There could be a few things going on:
First, it's possible Shurmur is learning and developing his play calling skills. This isn't likely, you either have the God-given talent to know how to manage a game or you don't - but it is possible.
Secondly, it turns out Sam Bradford may actually really suck - Bradford could end up being a bust, he's been awful this year. It's possible Shurmur dialed it down last year because it was his only option.
Colt McCoy looks infinitely better than Sam Bradford, and Shurmur is letting McCoy do a lot more than he let Bradford do last year.
I don't know what the bottom line is, like I said, if it's any consolation Shurmur is a million times better (more aggressive) with the Browns as he was with the Rams.
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this game appeared to be an abberation.. WAY more throws downfield than most other games.
Also, Schumur will have a LOT to answer for regarding the concussion incident.
i hope the national exposure and this incident either get him fired or magically transform him into a good coach.
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You know what I would do if i were Holmgren ? I would hire Jack Del Rio to be the HC and demote Shurmur to OC.
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Last night lost me on Shurmer. First off Hardesty has shown absolutely nothing except he can get injured often. Why he had the most carries is beyond me. Then the amount of garbage runs up the middle was astounding. Nothing to the outside. No screens. Amazing. Then to put a QB that had just gotten laid out and was obviously not in charge of his faculties back in the game was downright irresponsible. I even called Big Ben coming back in the 2nd half. But it was a leg injury not his skull cracked open. I hope that the league looks into this with the same scrutiny as they will obviously give the Harrison hit. I'm guilty for calling for stability, but the ineptitude of the coaching in a perfectly winnable game last night crossed the line for me....
Holmgren has MAJOR responsibility to answer for now as well IMO...
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Last night lost me on Shurmer. First off Hardesty has shown absolutely nothing except he can get injured often. Why he had the most carries is beyond me. Then the amount of garbage runs up the middle was astounding. Nothing to the outside. No screens. Amazing. Then to put a QB that had just gotten laid out and was obviously not in charge of his faculties back in the game was downright irresponsible. I even called Big Ben coming back in the 2nd half. But it was a leg injury not his skull cracked open. I hope that the league looks into this with the same scrutiny as they will obviously give the Harrison hit. I'm guilty for calling for stability, but the ineptitude of the coaching in a perfectly winnable game last night crossed the line for me....
Holmgren has MAJOR responsibility to answer for now as well IMO...
Last night lost me on Shurmer. First off Hardesty has shown absolutely nothing except he can get injured often. Why he had the most carries is beyond me. Then the amount of garbage runs up the middle was astounding. Nothing to the outside. No screens. Amazing. Then to put a QB that had just gotten laid out and was obviously not in charge of his faculties back in the game was downright irresponsible. I even called Big Ben coming back in the 2nd half. But it was a leg injury not his skull cracked open. I hope that the league looks into this with the same scrutiny as they will obviously give the Harrison hit. I'm guilty for calling for stability, but the ineptitude of the coaching in a perfectly winnable game last night crossed the line for me....
Holmgren has MAJOR responsibility to answer for now as well IMO...
I was about to write the exact same thing, so thank you for saving me some time. If this is a trial year for McCoy, it should be the same for Shurmer. He was riding the fence IMO until this game. With their record, what was he thinking on third and goal from the 1ft. line? It's two plays starting with a QB sneek. No way should he have settled for a field goal. I would have easily accepted turning the ball over if we were unsuccessful.
Furthermore, the decision to put him McCoy back after the KO was crazy. He was popped in the head and hurt his hand. Seneca is just as good as McCoy and was handling things well. I believe Seneca would have scored but again, would have accepted it had he not. If you're an NFL head coach, you shouldn't be making these kind of mistakes. So I say yes, this game proves we need to move forward on both McCoy and Shurmer. Sorry, but I've seen enough.
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