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  • KosarfanK Kosarfan wrote on
    #8

    Alot of questions around Mangini and not just whether he is a capable / winning coach either.

    Hope Lerner is truly weighing the whole package he's looking to buy and long term affects - don't need to be looking for a coach in 2 years after a terrible 2009 and 2010.

    Given the state of this program, I'd be looking hard elsewhere.

  • GipsG Gips wrote on
    #9

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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  • GipsG Gips

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    D DieselPusher wrote on
    #10

    @gips said:

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    I think Lerner looks at Detroit and Matt Millen and is afraid the same thing can happen. Millen sounds great in the broadcast booth, had a good career, but it doesn't mean it translates into a GM position

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #11

    He would be a horrible PR person since he doesn't speak well.....unless you are talking about what he already does...showing up at golf outings and stuff like that.

    I know everybody loves Bernie, but he isn't a GM or coach.

    Hiring him in a capacity such as that would turn in to a "Weekend at Bernie's"

    The Browns would be lugging around a dead weight.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • GipsG Gips

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    ? mz. wrote on
    #12

    @gips said:

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    Can someone please tell me why Bernie Kosar inspires ANYONE regarding a front office/"whip this club into shape" position with this team?

    Other than clinging desperately to the past, I'd like one solid reason. One fact.

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  • P Pumpkin Eater wrote on
    #13

    I don't mind hiring the coach before the GM as long as the coach gets his preferred GM. They must be able to work together.

    :neutral_face:
  • ? Guest

    @gips said:

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    Can someone please tell me why Bernie Kosar inspires ANYONE regarding a front office/"whip this club into shape" position with this team?

    Other than clinging desperately to the past, I'd like one solid reason. One fact.

    P Pumpkin Eater wrote on
    #14

    mz. said:

    Can someone please tell me why Bernie Kosar inspires ANYONE regarding a front office/"whip this club into shape" position with this team?

    Other than clinging desperately to the past, I'd like one solid reason. One fact.

    good question. seriously if Bernie had any personnel ability he would be working at such a job already.

    :neutral_face:
  • GipsG Gips

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on
    #15

    @gips said:

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    Maybe because Bernie has said over and over that he is not interested in a football related position and is not looking for a full time job because of his other business commitments. Bernie has expressed to Lerner that he would take a administrative or advisory role within the FO of the organization. When Jim Brown moves aside that job will most likely go to Bernie.

    As of right now, he is a advisor to Lerner and does some work for the team

  • GipsG Gips

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    S Sez.EJ wrote on
    #16

    @gips said:

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    What exactly has Bernie ever done to make you say this. I mean.... I played little leage baseball against him.. does that make him a hitting or pitching coach too?

  • P pl4tinum wrote on
    #17

    I don't think Kosar would ever take a HC or GM job with the Browns simply because he has little to gain and alot to lose from doing so. If he fails as a GM or HC, his reputation is tarnished. Right now, he is still God amongst Clevelanders.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8
  • D DieselPusher

    I don't see why Mangini is getting the heat. From what I remember, the Patriots were warned that if they decided to videotape the game, they would turn the guy in.

    Mangini or whomever, did not try to stop NE to film other teams, but only theirs. He knew Bellicheck would cheat and how he would do it, so he gave him an option not to do it against the Jets. Bellicheck decided to cheat anyways, so the Jets/Mangini turned them in.

    Is it honorable to let your mentor get away with cheating? Or is it more honorable to make sure the team that pays him, has the best chance to win.

    D DawgTracker wrote on
    #18

    @dieselpusher said:

    I don't see why Mangini is getting the heat. From what I remember, the Patriots were warned that if they decided to videotape the game, they would turn the guy in.

    Mangini or whomever, did not try to stop NE to film other teams, but only theirs. He knew Bellicheck would cheat and how he would do it, so he gave him an option not to do it against the Jets. Bellicheck decided to cheat anyways, so the Jets/Mangini turned them in.

    Is it honorable to let your mentor get away with cheating? Or is it more honorable to make sure the team that pays him, has the best chance to win.

    Agree 100% For those who consider him a snitch would it be ok to let the Pats cheat against the Browns when he is the coach and do nothing?

  • ? Guest

    @gips said:

    Lerner has a guy named bernie kosar right under his nose that would whip this club in shape i dunno why lerner hates bernie so much..he is loved by fans and respected by the media at minimal he would be a fantastic pr guy..

    Can someone please tell me why Bernie Kosar inspires ANYONE regarding a front office/"whip this club into shape" position with this team?

    Other than clinging desperately to the past, I'd like one solid reason. One fact.

    C Chicopee John wrote on
    #19

    mz. said:

    Can someone please tell me why Bernie Kosar inspires ANYONE regarding a front office/"whip this club into shape" position with this team?

    Other than clinging desperately to the past, I'd like one solid reason. One fact.

    Every once in a while you come up with a good question, mz the pussy. Even a comment or observation once in a while.

    Bernie had a nice, albeit shortened career. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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  • H Huge football fan wrote on
    #20

    http://profootballgm.weebly.com/voice-of-t...you-stupid.html

    This little blog says it all. Managini, is he the next Belichick or not? I say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • H Huge football fan

    http://profootballgm.weebly.com/voice-of-t...you-stupid.html

    This little blog says it all. Managini, is he the next Belichick or not? I say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ? Masters wrote on
    #21

    @huge-football-fan said:

    http://profootballgm.weebly.com/voice-of-t...you-stupid.html

    This little blog says it all. Managini, is he the next Belichick or not? I say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I feel dumber for having read that blog.

  • KosarfanK Kosarfan wrote on
    #22

    What has Kosar done ?

    Let's see:

    - In 2001, he became part-owner of the Florida Panthers franchise of the National Hockey League.

    - There had been talk of Kosar taking the head coaching job at his alma mater, the University of Miami, and Kosar (who currently holds a seat on Miami's board of regents) acknowledged that he had considered taking the job before it was ultimately offered to Randy Shannon.

    - Kosar also purchased a minority share in the Arena Football League's Las Vegas Gladiators in 2007 and announced that the team would move to Cleveland and play under the name Cleveland Gladiators. On October 16, 2007, Kosar was named team president and CEO of the franchise. The Gladiators finished the 2008 regular season 9-7, earning them a playoff berth.

    - Earned a degree in finance and economics from the University of Miami

    Do these statistics necessarily make him a candidate for a HC or GM, absolutely not (not yet anyway), but bear in mind the natural talent level he had (did'nt have) and the 'smarts' that he had in order to succeed with such a limited talent level. He was a leader, performer and inspiration. Additionally, learned the Cowboys playbook in less than a week after leaving the Browns and filled in for Troy Aikman to get a win for the Cowboys in 1993. How many guys can sit on the sideline all damn season and not do that well ???? We have at least 2 of those right now.

    What have Mangini or others done to get to the level they did in the NFL outside of being surrounded by talented mentor's ?

    Kosar should be given at least a position within the organization with which to prove his worth / talents for possible boosting into higher level positions and one day (I believe) a damn good coach. He was definitely NOT your run of the mill quarterback.

  • C Chicopee John

    mz. said:

    Can someone please tell me why Bernie Kosar inspires ANYONE regarding a front office/"whip this club into shape" position with this team?

    Other than clinging desperately to the past, I'd like one solid reason. One fact.

    Every once in a while you come up with a good question, mz the pussy. Even a comment or observation once in a while.

    Bernie had a nice, albeit shortened career. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    ? mz. wrote on
    #23

    @chicopee-john said:

    Every once in a while you come up with a good question, mz the pussy. Even a comment or observation once in a while.

    Thank you, John. I think...

  • D dencyguy wrote on
    #24

    So...based on those credentials, it seems as though Bernie is qualified to manage the players' 401(k) plans or arrange for them to buy McDonalds franchises. Super Bowl, here we come!

    Dennis

  • D dencyguy

    So...based on those credentials, it seems as though Bernie is qualified to manage the players' 401(k) plans or arrange for them to buy McDonalds franchises. Super Bowl, here we come!

    Dennis

    P Pumpkin Eater wrote on
    #25

    @dencyguy said:

    So...based on those credentials, it seems as though Bernie is qualified to manage the players' 401(k) plans or arrange for them to buy McDonalds franchises. Super Bowl, here we come!

    Dennis

    wow.. no not if he bought an AFL franchise recently....

    :neutral_face:
  • P Pumpkin Eater

    @dencyguy said:

    So...based on those credentials, it seems as though Bernie is qualified to manage the players' 401(k) plans or arrange for them to buy McDonalds franchises. Super Bowl, here we come!

    Dennis

    wow.. no not if he bought an AFL franchise recently....

    D dencyguy wrote on
    #26

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    wow.. no not if he bought an AFL franchise recently....

    Nah, that's just business acumen. While the other AFL teams are dormant or disbanded--or shall I say, "sleeping"--the Gladiators will claim the title as their own! Fools! Bernie has triumphed again, using his superior brains!

    Dennis

    And now it's off to one of his Taco Bells to celebrate with a Volcano Taco.

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