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  • Soju SojuS
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    SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by Soju
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    Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

    His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

    He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

    He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

    Thank God we have something in Sheard.

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    • SojuS Soju

      Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

      His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

      He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

      He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

      Thank God we have something in Sheard.

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      C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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      @soju said:

      Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

      His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

      He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

      He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

      Thank God we have something in Sheard.

      Aren't you the guy who is pleased as punch that the team lost yesterday, thus, helping their draft position?

      Some folks really don't get it.

      "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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        C Captain Cheesedick wrote on last edited by
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        I Completely DIS-agree.

        Taylor was an excellent pick and is doing what is expected.

        Sometimes it's not the guy whose name is called who "made" the play. Taylor is being effective.

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          Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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          I don't know what your talking about. He has had some cold games where he didn't do much, but hell so has Sheard. His play has been almost as good as Rubin's.

          Ruining threads since 1897.
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            No way Soju.

            While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

            From nfl.com:

            Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

            Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

            They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

            Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

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            • Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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              Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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              I wish people would stop posting on here that have little football knowledge you are making the rest of us look bad. They were both good picks. The only reason they are not going to the Pro Bowl this year is because they play for Cleveland.

              Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

              Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

              Let me elaborate:

              2010 DT Pro Bowl Selections:

              AFC: Haloti Ngata, 63 Tackles 5.5 Sacks

              Vince Wilfork, 57 Tackles 2.0 Sacks

              NFC: Darnell Dockett, 52 Tackles 5.0 Sacks

              Jay Ratiff, 31 Tackles 3.5 Sacks

              2010 DE Pro Bowl selections:

              AFC: Mario Williams, 28 Tackles 8.5 Sacks

              Kyle Vanden Bosch, 49 Tackles 4.0 Sacks

              NFC: Jared Allen, 60 Tackles 11 Sacks (freak)

              Julius Peppers, 54 Tackles 8 Sacks (freak)

              Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                I called Taylor a wasted pick of Gerrard Warren #2 before he even started playing.

                Wrong again homo.

                Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                • SojuS Soju

                  Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

                  His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

                  He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

                  He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

                  Thank God we have something in Sheard.

                  Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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                  Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                  @soju said:

                  Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

                  His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

                  He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

                  He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

                  Thank God we have something in Sheard.

                  Really, how come Taylor has the same/or equal stats through 14 games than 3 of the 2010 Pro Bowl starters? Please stop.

                  Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                    No way Soju.

                    While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

                    From nfl.com:

                    Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                    Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                    They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

                    Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

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                    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                    c-dawg said:

                    No way Soju.

                    While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

                    From nfl.com:

                    Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                    Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                    They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

                    Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

                    Exactly- Taylor is frequently being double teamed, which wouldn't be the case if the guy sucked-like Courtney Brown.

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                      J jnuh wrote on last edited by
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                      This thread is DUMB. Taylor has been very good from the moment he got on the field.

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                      • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

                        I wish people would stop posting on here that have little football knowledge you are making the rest of us look bad. They were both good picks. The only reason they are not going to the Pro Bowl this year is because they play for Cleveland.

                        Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                        Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                        Let me elaborate:

                        2010 DT Pro Bowl Selections:

                        AFC: Haloti Ngata, 63 Tackles 5.5 Sacks

                        Vince Wilfork, 57 Tackles 2.0 Sacks

                        NFC: Darnell Dockett, 52 Tackles 5.0 Sacks

                        Jay Ratiff, 31 Tackles 3.5 Sacks

                        2010 DE Pro Bowl selections:

                        AFC: Mario Williams, 28 Tackles 8.5 Sacks

                        Kyle Vanden Bosch, 49 Tackles 4.0 Sacks

                        NFC: Jared Allen, 60 Tackles 11 Sacks (freak)

                        Julius Peppers, 54 Tackles 8 Sacks (freak)

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                        ? hanson wrote on last edited by
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                        @kosar_for_president said:

                        I wish people would stop posting on here that have little football knowledge you are making the rest of us look bad. They were both good picks. The only reason they are not going to the Pro Bowl this year is because they play for Cleveland.

                        Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                        Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                        Let me elaborate:

                        2010 DT Pro Bowl Selections:

                        AFC: Haloti Ngata, 63 Tackles 5.5 Sacks

                        Vince Wilfork, 57 Tackles 2.0 Sacks

                        NFC: Darnell Dockett, 52 Tackles 5.0 Sacks

                        Jay Ratiff, 31 Tackles 3.5 Sacks

                        2010 DE Pro Bowl selections:

                        AFC: Mario Williams, 28 Tackles 8.5 Sacks

                        Kyle Vanden Bosch, 49 Tackles 4.0 Sacks

                        NFC: Jared Allen, 60 Tackles 11 Sacks (freak)

                        Julius Peppers, 54 Tackles 8 Sacks (freak)

                        So, when are you leaving?

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                        • TypicalBrowns TypicalBrownsT
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                          TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                          Taylor and Sheard are fine, Mitchell will be removed or booted down the depth chart for next year. Another quick DE and this D-line is looking sexy.

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                            @kosar_for_president said:

                            I wish people would stop posting on here that have little football knowledge you are making the rest of us look bad. They were both good picks. The only reason they are not going to the Pro Bowl this year is because they play for Cleveland.

                            Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                            Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                            Let me elaborate:

                            2010 DT Pro Bowl Selections:

                            AFC: Haloti Ngata, 63 Tackles 5.5 Sacks

                            Vince Wilfork, 57 Tackles 2.0 Sacks

                            NFC: Darnell Dockett, 52 Tackles 5.0 Sacks

                            Jay Ratiff, 31 Tackles 3.5 Sacks

                            2010 DE Pro Bowl selections:

                            AFC: Mario Williams, 28 Tackles 8.5 Sacks

                            Kyle Vanden Bosch, 49 Tackles 4.0 Sacks

                            NFC: Jared Allen, 60 Tackles 11 Sacks (freak)

                            Julius Peppers, 54 Tackles 8 Sacks (freak)

                            So, when are you leaving?

                            Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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                            Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                            hanson said:

                            So, when are you leaving?

                            So how is my response of little football knowledge? If you can refute my response I am all ears.

                            Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                              No way Soju.

                              While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

                              From nfl.com:

                              Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                              Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                              They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

                              Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

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                              C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by
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                              c-dawg said:

                              No way Soju.

                              While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

                              From nfl.com:

                              Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                              Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                              They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

                              Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

                              Very interesting but you don't judge DTs by stats

                              Taylor is actually having a stellar season for a rookie nose tackle. Ppl look at the stats and can tell he's having a pretty good season but looking at stats alone won't tell the whole story.

                              Taylor does take on blockers...he can rush the QB.....and he's without a doubt the best defensive lineman the browns have this year.

                              The op is exactly right in the sense that he might be big baby jr. Shaun Rogers was great for the browns and lions...now Taylor looks like he's playing very similarly

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                                c-dawg said:

                                No way Soju.

                                While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

                                From nfl.com:

                                Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                                Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                                They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

                                Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

                                Very interesting but you don't judge DTs by stats

                                Taylor is actually having a stellar season for a rookie nose tackle. Ppl look at the stats and can tell he's having a pretty good season but looking at stats alone won't tell the whole story.

                                Taylor does take on blockers...he can rush the QB.....and he's without a doubt the best defensive lineman the browns have this year.

                                The op is exactly right in the sense that he might be big baby jr. Shaun Rogers was great for the browns and lions...now Taylor looks like he's playing very similarly

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                                Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                                @cantonlegend said:

                                Ppl look at the stats and can tell he's having a pretty good season but looking at stats alone won't tell the whole story.

                                While true, stats are an added bonus.

                                Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                                  GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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                                  Taylor is doing fine for a rookie and he is still learning the ropes, taylor just like any other lineman is going to have off days or just get completely dominated by another player from time to time so i think its to early to say anything but good things about this kid..

                                  This defense needs a real FS, a healthy ward, a CB to replace an aging brown and 2 OLBs that can shed blocks and get to the ball without getting pancaked or blocked out by a 200 lb WR in the process..

                                  We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                                    c-dawg said:

                                    No way Soju.

                                    While opinions paint convenient pictures, numbers tell the story.

                                    From nfl.com:

                                    Jabaal Sheard CLE DE Tackles 48 Sacks 7.5

                                    Phillip Taylor CLE DT Tackles 52 Sacks 4.0

                                    They were both fine picks. Mitchell is the obvious weak link.

                                    Big Phil also takes up double-teams, freeing Sheard and LBs to make plays. He is 6th on the team in tackles!

                                    Very interesting but you don't judge DTs by stats

                                    Taylor is actually having a stellar season for a rookie nose tackle. Ppl look at the stats and can tell he's having a pretty good season but looking at stats alone won't tell the whole story.

                                    Taylor does take on blockers...he can rush the QB.....and he's without a doubt the best defensive lineman the browns have this year.

                                    The op is exactly right in the sense that he might be big baby jr. Shaun Rogers was great for the browns and lions...now Taylor looks like he's playing very similarly

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                                    @cantonlegend said:

                                    Very interesting but you don't judge DTs by stats

                                    What do you judge them by then (serious question)? I don't see any measurements/criterion in your response. I mention double-teams and list tackles and sack numbers.

                                    @cantonlegend said:

                                    Taylor does take on blockers...he can rush the QB.....and he's without a doubt the best defensive lineman the browns have this year.

                                    Rubin is our best lineman this year, that much is clear.

                                    And...Rubin's stats are better:

                                    Ahtyba Rubin CLE DT Tackles 67 Sacks 3.0

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                                      Run D requires the entire front 7/8 working together to stick all the gaps. Taylor is a beast, and he is a great big part of the reason the Browns D is as good as it is. Yes, they still get run on occasionally - because the Browns have one of the worst LB groups in the league. No single player is going to shut down a run game.. the Lions have Suh and they still get run on.

                                      Taylor is more than meeting expectations.. he's a big part of the Browns moving forward.

                                      Calling it here first: A Browns DL will make the Pro Bowl after next season.

                                      The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                                        Taylor is doing fine for a rookie and he is still learning the ropes, taylor just like any other lineman is going to have off days or just get completely dominated by another player from time to time so i think its to early to say anything but good things about this kid..

                                        This defense needs a real FS, a healthy ward, a CB to replace an aging brown and 2 OLBs that can shed blocks and get to the ball without getting pancaked or blocked out by a 200 lb WR in the process..

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                                        @gips said:

                                        Taylor is doing fine for a rookie and he is still learning the ropes, taylor just like any other lineman is going to have off days or just get completely dominated by another player from time to time so i think its to early to say anything but good things about this kid..

                                        This defense needs a real FS, a healthy ward, a CB to replace an aging brown and 2 OLBs that can shed blocks and get to the ball without getting pancaked or blocked out by a 200 lb WR in the process..

                                        As we used to say back in the 60s: Right On, Brother.

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                                        • SojuS Soju

                                          Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

                                          His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

                                          He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

                                          He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

                                          Thank God we have something in Sheard.

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                                          rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                                          @soju said:

                                          Sheard is looking to be a first round talent, but Taylor is leaving something to be desired.

                                          His name rarely gets called, he's constantly back around the line of scrimmage (with one guy on him), he rarely gets to the QB, and given our run defense this year, he hasn't stopped jack.

                                          He's looking like Big Baby the 2nd.

                                          He has underachieved as far as I'm concerned with the 1st overall pick from the Browns.

                                          Thank God we have something in Sheard.

                                          Kinda being a disappointment we passed on a multi year all star for this fat slob

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