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  • Like I said, you win. You cant argue with a moron, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I've never endorsed the revolving door at any position, coach included. Do your research and don't assume, dickbreath.

    But Shurmur is awful, and Seneca is proving he can be just as effective (or ineffective, for that matter) in this godawful offense. It's time we pull the trigger on a franchise QB, not a game manager.

    To me, considering the way both of these QBs have played, I am inclined to think that the problem may not be the QBs, but the person controlling the QBs.

    You may have a Lamborghini or a Ferrari Testarosa in your garage, but it if is being driven by your old granny who will never drive any car over 30 mph, what is the point?

    @the-gipper said:

    To me, considering the way both of these QBs have played, I am inclined to think that the problem may not be the QBs, but the person controlling the QBs.

    You may have a Lamborghini or a Ferrari Testarosa in your garage, but it if is being driven by your old granny who will never drive any car over 30 mph, what is the point?

    I also believe that's case.

    By comparing Colt and Seneca I only meant to emphasize that Colt has no outstanding talents that Seneca doesn't also possess; he is a game manager, and he should be treated as such.

    Game managers win games by not making mistakes. They are not the prototypical, gunslinging QB's people tend to imagine when they hear the term "franchise QB".

    But that doesn't mean they can't win football games. Game managers aren't going to shrug off would be tacklers and heave up 60+ yard hail mary's to win the game. They win by not making mistakes, by not making things more difficult on the defense. In all honesty every "rebuilding" team, every team that lacks talent across the board, should have game manager-type QB's. Someone to do just enough to get by. Someone to keep the seat warm, if you will, for the future franchise QB.

    Only when a team acquires enough offensive talent should they pull the trigger on a franchise QB.

    Colt is the game manager. He's not a great QB, he never will be considered a great QB. But he's smart and he's tough. He'll be here next season. As much as we would like RG3, or who the fuck ever else at QB, it's not happening. RG3 may not even declare. Our best bet is to go with a WR.

  • @the-gipper said:

    To me, considering the way both of these QBs have played, I am inclined to think that the problem may not be the QBs, but the person controlling the QBs.

    You may have a Lamborghini or a Ferrari Testarosa in your garage, but it if is being driven by your old granny who will never drive any car over 30 mph, what is the point?

    I also believe that's case.

    By comparing Colt and Seneca I only meant to emphasize that Colt has no outstanding talents that Seneca doesn't also possess; he is a game manager, and he should be treated as such.

    Game managers win games by not making mistakes. They are not the prototypical, gunslinging QB's people tend to imagine when they hear the term "franchise QB".

    But that doesn't mean they can't win football games. Game managers aren't going to shrug off would be tacklers and heave up 60+ yard hail mary's to win the game. They win by not making mistakes, by not making things more difficult on the defense. In all honesty every "rebuilding" team, every team that lacks talent across the board, should have game manager-type QB's. Someone to do just enough to get by. Someone to keep the seat warm, if you will, for the future franchise QB.

    Only when a team acquires enough offensive talent should they pull the trigger on a franchise QB.

    Colt is the game manager. He's not a great QB, he never will be considered a great QB. But he's smart and he's tough. He'll be here next season. As much as we would like RG3, or who the fuck ever else at QB, it's not happening. RG3 may not even declare. Our best bet is to go with a WR.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I also believe that's case.

    By comparing Colt and Seneca I only meant to emphasize that Colt has no outstanding talents that Seneca doesn't also possess; he is a game manager, and he should be treated as such.

    Game managers win games by not making mistakes. They are not the prototypical, gunslinging QB's people tend to imagine when they hear the term "franchise QB".

    But that doesn't mean they can't win football games. Game managers aren't going to shrug off would be tacklers and heave up 60+ yard hail mary's to win the game. They win by not making mistakes, by not making things more difficult on the defense. In all honesty every "rebuilding" team, every team that lacks talent across the board, should have game manager-type QB's. Someone to do just enough to get by. Someone to keep the seat warm, if you will, for the future franchise QB.

    Only when a team acquires enough offensive talent should they pull the trigger on a franchise QB.

    Colt is the game manager. He's not a great QB, he never will be considered a great QB. But he's smart and he's tough. He'll be here next season. As much as we would like RG3, or who the fuck ever else at QB, it's not happening. RG3 may not even declare. Our best bet is to go with a WR.

    OK, well, if both Blackmon and RGIII are there at #4 when the Browns possibly pick, it certainly would not surprise me if they choose Blackmon....if Heckert is true to his statement that he will be going after playmakers.

  • What would be great is to trade their second pick in the first and next years first and second then go out and pick Luck and Blackmon...

  • What would be great is to trade their second pick in the first and next years first and second then go out and pick Luck and Blackmon...

    @poeticg said:

    What would be great is to trade their second pick in the first and next years first and second then go out and pick Luck and Blackmon...

    OK, we now know where you are living:

  • i'd rather just trade next years second for a bottle of water from the fountain of youth to bring back a young dan marino and suit him up in an orange lid.