Joe Thomas Selected To His 5Th Straight Pro Bowl
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Joe Thomas sure as hell deserves it - he flat out is one of the top few olinemen in the NFL. I can't wait for the Browns
to get a solid right tackle now. And a few other additions - the Browns offense will be able to take off.
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Ray Lewis, 88 tackles, 2 sacks and one interception
Derrick Johnson, 126 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 interceptions
D'Qwell Jackson, 145 tackles, 4 sacks and one interception Most Solo Tackles in the NFL.
Haloti Ngata, 60 tackles, 5 sacks, 21 Yrds for loss
Vince Wilfork, 49 tackles, 3 sacks, 18 Yrds for loss
Richard Seymour, 27 tackles 6 sacks, 24 Yrds for loss
Ahtyba Rubin, 74 Tackles, 4 sacks, 28 Yrds for loss
So it's pretty fair.
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Yes, losing teams get few Pro Bowl nods. That said, Joe Haden probably should have been given a slot. Otherwise though I can't say the Browns suffered any snubs.
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Yes, losing teams get few Pro Bowl nods. That said, Joe Haden probably should have been given a slot. Otherwise though I can't say the Browns suffered any snubs.
Yes, losing teams get few Pro Bowl nods. That said, Joe Haden probably should have been given a slot. Otherwise though I can't say the Browns suffered any snubs.
Gip, I looked at his stats, while he is among the league leaders in Pass Defended and top 15 in tackles, he has zero pics.
Anyone think Eric Wright was horrible, check out his stats. Not a bad season at all. Better stats than Revis, DeAngelo Hall, Asante Samuel and Nnamdi Asomugha.
Kyle Arrington and Brandon Browner would of been great selections as well.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
I always liked Eric Wright. He is MUCH better than Falldown Haden.
Bullshit.
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Zombo said:
Haden didn't deserve it this year, but he'll see plenty of trips to HNL during his career.
Rubin and Jackson deserved it, but it's too hard to break through on a losing team.
Rubin and Taylor are set for great careers because they have each other to rely on up the niddle. Our other young stars all need a pair, or a bookend, to help them showcase their talents and for the team to improve:
Thomas ... needs a good RT so he's not forever known as a good tackle on a so-so OL.
Little ... best WR we have drafted in 20 years. Needs a threat on the other side so he can become a big time playmaker.
Sheard ... most impressive rookie DE in league, if offenses have to worry about a defensive end on the other side, Sheard will become a weekly force to deal with.
Haden ... our Minnifield needs a Dixon: a physical corner that can take on the other team's size guy while he shuts down their burner.
Ward ... He'll be back full strength next year to terrorize the AFC North but we need a reliable coverage and speed guy back there with him so that we can use Ward more in blitzing and run support ... that's when he'll get pro bowl numbers and recognition.
So we are halfway there ... IF Colt is the answer at QB.
Get to work Heckert.
Z
Amen Z
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Zombo said:
for the team to improve:
Thomas ... needs a good RT so he's not forever known as a good tackle on a so-so OL. third pick
Little ... best WR we have drafted in 20 years. Needs a threat on the other side so he can become a big time playmaker. this would be my first pick
Sheard ... most impressive rookie DE in league, if offenses have to worry about a defensive end on the other side, Sheard will become a weekly force to deal with. fourth pick
Haden ... our Minnifield needs a Dixon: a physical corner that can take on the other team's size guy while he shuts down their burner. second pick
Ward ... He'll be back full strength next year to terrorize the AFC North but we need a reliable coverage and speed guy back there with him so that we can use Ward more in blitzing and run support ... that's when he'll get pro bowl numbers and recognition. do we even have this many picks?
and what about linebacker(s)?
too many holes to fill to draft another QB.
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Zombo said:
Thomas ... needs a good RT so he's not forever known as a good tackle on a so-so OL.
Little ... best WR we have drafted in 20 years. Needs a threat on the other side so he can become a big time playmaker.
kellin winslow jr? braylon edwards? dennis northcutt? come on man thats just off the top of my head.....Little had a solid rookie season but he also had a ton of drops and missed some games early on.....not sure hes better than northcutt edwards or winslow just yet
Sheard ... most impressive rookie DE in league, if offenses have to worry about a defensive end on the other side, Sheard will become a weekly force to deal with.
sheard had a good season but jj watt and aldon smith were DROY candidates from the get go..both had tremendous seasons
just my 2cents
the browns have some pieces..i think little can be a solid #2 guy and sheard is a good LDE option but they still need some elite talent at wideout and some offensive linemen to help mack and thomas out
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I don't hear anyone mentioning Sheard. I know he's a rookie but he had 7.5 sacks and 5 forced fumbles. 5 is good enough for tops in the league and forced fumbles are far more meaningful than sacks because it's a chance at a turnover.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
And his 5th consecutive losing team.
Joe Tomas = good LG = Total wasted draft pick = No impact on offense in any of his five years.
Great LT, shit draft pick.
Know what Tom? I just took a look back at the 2007 draft- and I can make a serious case Joe Thomas is BY FAR the best player the Browns could have taken in that slot. In fact IMHO, he's the second best player PERIOD drafted that year- the only one better is Calvin Johnson, who the Lions took one slot ahead of the Browns.
Don't believe me? Go take a look....2007 Nfl Draft..... and tell me who you'd rather have than Joe.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
And his 5th consecutive losing team.
Joe Tomas = good LG = Total wasted draft pick = No impact on offense in any of his five years.
Great LT, shit draft pick.
Know what Tom? I just took a look back at the 2007 draft- and I can make a serious case Joe Thomas is BY FAR the best player the Browns could have taken in that slot. In fact IMHO, he's the second best player PERIOD drafted that year- the only one better is Calvin Johnson, who the Lions took one slot ahead of the Browns.
Don't believe me? Go take a look....2007 Nfl Draft..... and tell me who you'd rather have than Joe.
Know what Tom? I just took a look back at the 2007 draft- and I can make a serious case Joe Thomas is BY FAR the best player the Browns could have taken in that slot. In fact IMHO, he's the second best player PERIOD drafted that year- the only one better is Calvin Johnson, who the Lions took one slot ahead of the Browns.
Don't believe me? Go take a look....2007 Nfl Draft..... and tell me who you'd rather have than Joe.
Man, I agree. But it would of been nice to have AP or Patrick Willis.
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Know what Tom? I just took a look back at the 2007 draft- and I can make a serious case Joe Thomas is BY FAR the best player the Browns could have taken in that slot. In fact IMHO, he's the second best player PERIOD drafted that year- the only one better is Calvin Johnson, who the Lions took one slot ahead of the Browns.
Don't believe me? Go take a look....2007 Nfl Draft..... and tell me who you'd rather have than Joe.
Man, I agree. But it would of been nice to have AP or Patrick Willis.
Man, I agree. But it would of been nice to have AP or Patrick Willis.
Until the knee injury, I would have said it's a wash- but now who knows? AP may come back like McGahee, then again, maybe not. Thomas has hopefully another 5-8 years left in him. 3-4 more Pro Bowls puts in HOF contention.
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