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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    I have surveyed the various mock drafts that are listed on the Walter Football Mock draft database, and here are the votes for whom the Browns would take with the 4th overall pick in the draft if they maintained that position:

    Justin Blackmon WR OK. St. 38 votes

    Maurice Claiborne CB LSU 28 votes

    Trent Richardson RB Alabama 19 votes

    Matt Kalil OT USC 18 votes

    Quinton Coples DE UNC 16 votes

    Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 13 votes

    Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina 13 votes

    Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 10 votes

    Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 5 votes

    Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 3 votes

    Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 3 votes

    Riley Rieff OT Iowa 2 votes

    Vontaze Burfict LB Ariz. St. 2 votes.

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      Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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      I want to meat the two idiots who have us taking Burfict with our first pick!

      Ruining threads since 1897.
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        RG3 all the way if he is even there to get

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          B brownfish wrote on last edited by brownfish
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          I think we can easily trade up from 4-5 to the 6-10th slot and then also get another 2nd round pick this year and 2nd rounder next year. It's still very possible for us to give up our 4th and 23rd pick plus a 2nd next year for Luck, which i possibly see them doing. but giving up another 1st next year NO WAY....on 2nd thought that would be stupid...who would he throw to? who would block the rush? who would make holes for play action? Yeh, i would rather us give colt 2 more years then draft another QB.

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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            Who looked to be the consensus 2 and 3 (behind Luck as #1 I assume)???

            If Blackmon falls to #4, he's the no-brainer...

            If not... I'd see who's interested in a #4... and we have a 22-ish pick as well.

            Maurice (Morris) Claiborne CB LSU - I like Kirkpatrick better and can get him later... Trade down w/ Miami to #8

            Trent Richardson RB Alabama - Like him a lot, but longevity is a concern.

            Matt Kalil OT USC - not impressed with his footwork... I like Martin (Stanford) better.

            Quinton Coples DE UNC - a 3-4 DE. Ingram (SC) late in 1st would be interesting DE conversion

            Robert Griffin III QB Baylor - No, no, no running QB's for me...

            No one else worth a #4...

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              I think we can easily trade up from 4-5 to the 6-10th slot and then also get another 2nd round pick this year and 2nd rounder next year. It's still very possible for us to give up our 4th and 23rd pick plus a 2nd next year for Luck, which i possibly see them doing. but giving up another 1st next year NO WAY....on 2nd thought that would be stupid...who would he throw to? who would block the rush? who would make holes for play action? Yeh, i would rather us give colt 2 more years then draft another QB.

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              B bringbackbrownie2 wrote on last edited by
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              @brownfish said:

              I think we can easily trade up from 4-5 to the 6-10th slot and then also get another 2nd round pick this year and 2nd rounder next year. It's still very possible for us to give up our 4th and 23rd pick plus a 2nd next year for Luck, which i possibly see them doing. but giving up another 1st next year NO WAY....on 2nd thought that would be stupid...who would he throw to? who would block the rush? who would make holes for play action? Yeh, i would rather us give colt 2 more years then draft another QB.

              I agree. But that would be considered "trading down." It makes perfect sense and we would still have a top 10 pick. With the extra draft picks, we will be that much closer to contending..

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                Right now RG3 is the favorite among mocks he may not even make it to #4....

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                  tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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                  Look, I love Blackmon just as much as anybody else, but there is no way in hell we can go into next yr with Colt as our QB. I know that we good take a QB in the late first or Second, but if RG3 is there at number 4 we have to take him!!!!

                  Hot rumor I heard is that the Browns could trade our 1st and 3rd and next yrs 2nd to jump to the top pick to take luck. I was listening to some "draft experts" and they stated that they think that would be more than enough to move up to number 1. The thought process is that the Colts might not take Luck, because Manning will be back and Manning has said pletty of time that if you are picked number 1 in the draft you should start from day 1.

                  I have mix feeling about moving up and giving up a third and next yrs second. I like that the Browns would do that to get Luck, but I dont like giving up picks because we need help everywhere. All well, its a shame that the best part of the yearfor a Browna fan is draft day

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                    I've been watching the Sooners, Hawkeyes game and really dissapointed with Riley Reiff and L. Jones. Reiff has really bad footwork and gets pushed back a lot...looks to have strong upper body but leg strenght and feet are a no go for me, of course he may not even come out this year. Landry Jones is horrible in the pocket and will get demolished in the NFL and i had high hopes for him, oh well. Honestly, i want to like Blackmon because he runs really nice routes but not sold on his hands...I have only seen 3 full games but every game he dropped like 2 or 3 easily catchable passes, not sure if he has tiny hand syndrome or what. None of the WR impress me much this year...have a couple studs coming out next year but hopefully we concentrate on the both sides of the line this year, though if Rueben Randle or Dwight Jones are available I would grab them both. Dwight Jones Rookie of the year 2012

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                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                      I have surveyed the various mock drafts that are listed on the Walter Football Mock draft database, and here are the votes for whom the Browns would take with the 4th overall pick in the draft if they maintained that position:

                      Justin Blackmon WR OK. St. 38 votes

                      Maurice Claiborne CB LSU 28 votes

                      Trent Richardson RB Alabama 19 votes

                      Matt Kalil OT USC 18 votes

                      Quinton Coples DE UNC 16 votes

                      Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 13 votes

                      Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina 13 votes

                      Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 10 votes

                      Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 5 votes

                      Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 3 votes

                      Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 3 votes

                      Riley Rieff OT Iowa 2 votes

                      Vontaze Burfict LB Ariz. St. 2 votes.

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                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      I have surveyed the various mock drafts that are listed on the Walter Football Mock draft database, and here are the votes for whom the Browns would take with the 4th overall pick in the draft if they maintained that position:

                      Justin Blackmon WR OK. St. 38 votes

                      Maurice Claiborne CB LSU 28 votes

                      Trent Richardson RB Alabama 19 votes

                      Matt Kalil OT USC 18 votes

                      Quinton Coples DE UNC 16 votes

                      Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 13 votes

                      Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina 13 votes

                      Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 10 votes

                      Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 5 votes

                      Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 3 votes

                      Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 3 votes

                      Riley Rieff OT Iowa 2 votes

                      Vontaze Burfict LB Ariz. St. 2 votes.

                      Plenty of stupidity out there I see. Hello? We have 5 time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas playing LT, you don't ever, never draft your RT @ #4, dumb asses. They get drafted in the second round- because they're not good enough to play LT.

                      The only players that make sense are Griffin and Couples, assuming Blackmon is off the board. Ask the Eagles and Jets where having 2 stud CBs will get you- not very far. Richardson is apparently not coming out, and Floyd & Jeffries aren't worth the #4 overall. Apparently a few Oklahoma alums had a drug induced moment thinking Landry Jones is a top 10 prospect.

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                        I want to meat the two idiots who have us taking Burfict with our first pick!

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                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                        @harry-buffalo said:

                        I want to meat the two idiots who have us taking Burfict with our first pick!

                        No....you don't

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          I have surveyed the various mock drafts that are listed on the Walter Football Mock draft database, and here are the votes for whom the Browns would take with the 4th overall pick in the draft if they maintained that position:

                          Justin Blackmon WR OK. St. 38 votes

                          Maurice Claiborne CB LSU 28 votes

                          Trent Richardson RB Alabama 19 votes

                          Matt Kalil OT USC 18 votes

                          Quinton Coples DE UNC 16 votes

                          Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 13 votes

                          Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina 13 votes

                          Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 10 votes

                          Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 5 votes

                          Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 3 votes

                          Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 3 votes

                          Riley Rieff OT Iowa 2 votes

                          Vontaze Burfict LB Ariz. St. 2 votes.

                          Plenty of stupidity out there I see. Hello? We have 5 time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas playing LT, you don't ever, never draft your RT @ #4, dumb asses. They get drafted in the second round- because they're not good enough to play LT.

                          The only players that make sense are Griffin and Couples, assuming Blackmon is off the board. Ask the Eagles and Jets where having 2 stud CBs will get you- not very far. Richardson is apparently not coming out, and Floyd & Jeffries aren't worth the #4 overall. Apparently a few Oklahoma alums had a drug induced moment thinking Landry Jones is a top 10 prospect.

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                          C CantonLegend wrote on last edited by CantonLegend
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                          @hoorta said:

                          Plenty of stupidity out there I see. Hello? We have 5 time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas playing LT, you don't ever, never draft your RT @ #4, dumb asses. They get drafted in the second round- because they're not good enough to play LT.

                          The ravens drafted their right tackle in the first round...they are going to win the division this year

                          The only players that make sense are Griffin and Couples, assuming Blackmon is off the board. Ask the Eagles and Jets where having 2 stud CBs will get you- not very far. Richardson is apparently not coming out, and Floyd & Jeffries aren't worth the #4 overall. Apparently a few Oklahoma alums had a drug induced moment thinking Landry Jones is a top 10 prospect.

                          The eagles and jets have a lot more problems than their corners but they both have 2 of the most talented secondaries the league has ever seen.

                          Floyd and Jeffries are both top 15 caliber...since the browns only have one pick in the top 15 why not take the player they want instead of worrying where they think he should be drafted

                          Oh and drafting a qb doesn't make sense

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                            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                            Oh and drafting a qb doesn't make sense

                            It makes more sense than sticking with the scrub.

                            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                              Oh and drafting a qb doesn't make sense

                              It makes more sense than sticking with the scrub.

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                              @ballpeen said:

                              It makes more sense than sticking with the scrub.

                              True but the browns don't have a scrub qb on the team right now

                              If qb was a legit need I'd be all for it but colt is better than about half of the other QBs in the league...you can't say that about the browns WRs or RT

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                                @hoorta said:

                                Plenty of stupidity out there I see. Hello? We have 5 time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas playing LT, you don't ever, never draft your RT @ #4, dumb asses. They get drafted in the second round- because they're not good enough to play LT.

                                The ravens drafted their right tackle in the first round...they are going to win the division this year

                                The only players that make sense are Griffin and Couples, assuming Blackmon is off the board. Ask the Eagles and Jets where having 2 stud CBs will get you- not very far. Richardson is apparently not coming out, and Floyd & Jeffries aren't worth the #4 overall. Apparently a few Oklahoma alums had a drug induced moment thinking Landry Jones is a top 10 prospect.

                                The eagles and jets have a lot more problems than their corners but they both have 2 of the most talented secondaries the league has ever seen.

                                Floyd and Jeffries are both top 15 caliber...since the browns only have one pick in the top 15 why not take the player they want instead of worrying where they think he should be drafted

                                Oh and drafting a qb doesn't make sense

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                                @cantonlegend said:

                                The ravens drafted their right tackle in the first round...they are going to win the division this year

                                ...since the browns only have one pick in the top 15 why not take the player they want instead of worrying where they think he should be drafted

                                Oh and drafting a qb doesn't make sense

                                1. AS if drafting a RT is what put the Ravens over the top... puh-leez... 🙄

                                2. Because rather than over-drafting a player, you may be able to "trade down", still get the one you want and fill other needs. Whole lotta value to be harvested between pick 4 and 15... or 22...

                                3. RGIII at #4 is what doesn't make sense... or at 5... or 7... or...

                                @tampadawgs said:

                                Hot rumor I heard is that the Browns could trade our 1st and 3rd and next yrs 2nd to jump to the top pick to take luck. I was listening to some "draft experts" and they stated that they think that would be more than enough to move up to number 1. The thought process is that the Colts might not take Luck, because Manning will be back and Manning has said pletty of time that if you are picked number 1 in the draft you should start from day 1.

                                I'm not sold on Luck, but IF H&H are that sure that Lock is a solid #1 and that's all it would take to move up.... I'm down with that. If for no other reason than bloodlines... Oliver Luck was a hard working gamer and his kid has physical gifts way beyond Daddy's.

                                But if that were to happen, you immediately move Colt for a #3 (maybe more?) and move on... none of that "Brady/ Derek" BS ever again...

                                "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                  I live in Oklahoma and every OU fan I've spoken to recently would rather have the Bell-dozer starting over Landry Jones. If we take Jones at #4 (extremely doubtful) I'll have to give up football for a few years. Jones shrinks in big moments. I'd rather take Weeden and his AARP membership over Jones.

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    I have surveyed the various mock drafts that are listed on the Walter Football Mock draft database, and here are the votes for whom the Browns would take with the 4th overall pick in the draft if they maintained that position:

                                    Justin Blackmon WR OK. St. 38 votes

                                    Maurice Claiborne CB LSU 28 votes

                                    Trent Richardson RB Alabama 19 votes

                                    Matt Kalil OT USC 18 votes

                                    Quinton Coples DE UNC 16 votes

                                    Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 13 votes

                                    Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina 13 votes

                                    Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 10 votes

                                    Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 5 votes

                                    Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 3 votes

                                    Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 3 votes

                                    Riley Rieff OT Iowa 2 votes

                                    Vontaze Burfict LB Ariz. St. 2 votes.

                                    Plenty of stupidity out there I see. Hello? We have 5 time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas playing LT, you don't ever, never draft your RT @ #4, dumb asses. They get drafted in the second round- because they're not good enough to play LT.

                                    The only players that make sense are Griffin and Couples, assuming Blackmon is off the board. Ask the Eagles and Jets where having 2 stud CBs will get you- not very far. Richardson is apparently not coming out, and Floyd & Jeffries aren't worth the #4 overall. Apparently a few Oklahoma alums had a drug induced moment thinking Landry Jones is a top 10 prospect.

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @hoorta said:

                                    Plenty of stupidity out there I see. Hello? We have 5 time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas playing LT, you don't ever, never draft your RT @ #4, dumb asses. They get drafted in the second round- because they're not good enough to play LT.

                                    The only players that make sense are Griffin and Couples, assuming Blackmon is off the board. Ask the Eagles and Jets where having 2 stud CBs will get you- not very far. Richardson is apparently not coming out, and Floyd & Jeffries aren't worth the #4 overall. Apparently a few Oklahoma alums had a drug induced moment thinking Landry Jones is a top 10 prospect.

                                    These mocks were not necessarily Browns specific.....I simply noted who was the #4 player to be selected in the draft, regardless of which team was doing the selecting.

                                    No, I would not expect the Browns to take an OT with their #4 pick....but they might further down the line with the pick we got from Atlanta.

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                                      There are a lot of talent WR in the draft, we should draft coples or clabourne with 4. i dont like drafting blackmon because he reminds me way too much of micheal crabtree. (like its kinda scary how similar they are in body and background) I know we need offense, but we could get kendall wright or jurius wright with out 2nd pick. this way we can still have a burner, But we can also fill a need of Needing another rusher opposite of sheard or a corner to replace the terrible sheldon brown. Little, wright, and norwood. I like that line up. Sheard and coples, i love that even more. Haden clabourne together. Get effing real dude, thats just beast.

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                                        There are a lot of talent WR in the draft, we should draft coples or clabourne with 4. i dont like drafting blackmon because he reminds me way too much of micheal crabtree. (like its kinda scary how similar they are in body and background) I know we need offense, but we could get kendall wright or jurius wright with out 2nd pick. this way we can still have a burner, But we can also fill a need of Needing another rusher opposite of sheard or a corner to replace the terrible sheldon brown. Little, wright, and norwood. I like that line up. Sheard and coples, i love that even more. Haden clabourne together. Get effing real dude, thats just beast.

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                                        @actheicekid said:

                                        There are a lot of talent WR in the draft, we should draft coples or clabourne with 4. i dont like drafting blackmon because he reminds me way too much of micheal crabtree. (like its kinda scary how similar they are in body and background) I know we need offense, but we could get kendall wright or jurius wright with out 2nd pick. this way we can still have a burner, But we can also fill a need of Needing another rusher opposite of sheard or a corner to replace the terrible sheldon brown. Little, wright, and norwood. I like that line up. Sheard and coples, i love that even more. Haden clabourne together. Get effing real dude, thats just beast.

                                        Yes, there is something to be said for drafting a CB. In my survery of various mocks, Blackmon was the first choice, but Claiborne was #2.

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                                          @actheicekid said:

                                          There are a lot of talent WR in the draft, we should draft coples or clabourne with 4. i dont like drafting blackmon because he reminds me way too much of micheal crabtree. (like its kinda scary how similar they are in body and background) I know we need offense, but we could get kendall wright or jurius wright with out 2nd pick. this way we can still have a burner, But we can also fill a need of Needing another rusher opposite of sheard or a corner to replace the terrible sheldon brown. Little, wright, and norwood. I like that line up. Sheard and coples, i love that even more. Haden clabourne together. Get effing real dude, thats just beast.

                                          Yes, there is something to be said for drafting a CB. In my survery of various mocks, Blackmon was the first choice, but Claiborne was #2.

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Yes, there is something to be said for drafting a CB. In my survery of various mocks, Blackmon was the first choice, but Claiborne was #2.

                                          yeah i wouldnt mind another good corner. since phill taylor will be better, im predicting our run defense will be better. so getting another good corner in the pass happy nfl might be a good idea. especially if we plan on contending in the playoffs. i wouldnt mind coples either. But either way i dont want blackmon. I just think that he fits well in that air raid offense but in our WCO we need someone who can strectch the field so our underneath routes cant be sat on by safeties. blackmon isnt a field stretcher because he isnt that fast nor is he that tall. More of a possesion receiver. Kendall wright would be the field stretcher we need. opening up greg little, norwood and peyton hillis.

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