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  • OSU Kid O
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    O OSU Kid wrote on last edited by
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    3-21 in the last 4 years in the AFC North including a lovely 0-6 this season. When will it end.

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    • Banana Stand B
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      B Banana Stand wrote on last edited by
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      in an all too familiar refrain....."next year"

      Steve Holt is a bastard.
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      • SuperSteelers SuperSteelersS
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        SuperSteelersS SuperSteelers wrote on last edited by SuperSteelers
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        The Browns are close and have been for a few years now, but with the continuing changes in QB's and Coaches there is no consistency. Holmgren should have given Mangini another 2 years to develop Colt and that offense. The Defense was looking pretty good last year and it did this year too, but again changing from a 3-4 to 4-3 means they had to drop players and add new ones to fit in their new scheme. It boggles the mind as to why the Browns dont just build through the draft and let the Qb and coach stay in place. I think Shurmur is doing a fair job, but its going to take time to put together a winning formula and get everyone on the same page. I just hope for your sakes there isnt any significant changes this off-season. However, from an article I recently read, Shurmur really likes RGIII.

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        • SuperSteelersS SuperSteelers

          The Browns are close and have been for a few years now, but with the continuing changes in QB's and Coaches there is no consistency. Holmgren should have given Mangini another 2 years to develop Colt and that offense. The Defense was looking pretty good last year and it did this year too, but again changing from a 3-4 to 4-3 means they had to drop players and add new ones to fit in their new scheme. It boggles the mind as to why the Browns dont just build through the draft and let the Qb and coach stay in place. I think Shurmur is doing a fair job, but its going to take time to put together a winning formula and get everyone on the same page. I just hope for your sakes there isnt any significant changes this off-season. However, from an article I recently read, Shurmur really likes RGIII.

          Harry Buffalo Harry BuffaloH
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          Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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          @supersteelers said:

          The Browns are close and have been for a few years now, but with the continuing changes in QB's and Coaches there is no consistency. Holmgren should have given Mangini another 2 years to develop Colt and that offense. The Defense was looking pretty good last year and it did this year too, but again changing from a 3-4 to 4-3 means they had to drop players and add new ones to fit in their new scheme. It boggles the mind as to why the Browns dont just build through the draft and let the Qb and coach stay in place. I think Shurmur is doing a fair job, but its going to take time to put together a winning formula and get everyone on the same page. I just hope for your sakes there isnt any significant changes this off-season. However, from an article I recently read, Shurmur really likes RGIII.

          Being compared to a shorter faster Big Ben and honestly even though I agree with needing to stick with a QB and Coach for more than one or two seasons we should take a top QB if they think he can be great instead of sticking with someone who were hoping to be average.

          Ruining threads since 1897.
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          • SuperSteelersS SuperSteelers

            The Browns are close and have been for a few years now, but with the continuing changes in QB's and Coaches there is no consistency. Holmgren should have given Mangini another 2 years to develop Colt and that offense. The Defense was looking pretty good last year and it did this year too, but again changing from a 3-4 to 4-3 means they had to drop players and add new ones to fit in their new scheme. It boggles the mind as to why the Browns dont just build through the draft and let the Qb and coach stay in place. I think Shurmur is doing a fair job, but its going to take time to put together a winning formula and get everyone on the same page. I just hope for your sakes there isnt any significant changes this off-season. However, from an article I recently read, Shurmur really likes RGIII.

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            @supersteelers said:

            The Browns are close and have been for a few years now, but with the continuing changes in QB's and Coaches there is no consistency. Holmgren should have given Mangini another 2 years to develop Colt and that offense. The Defense was looking pretty good last year and it did this year too, but again changing from a 3-4 to 4-3 means they had to drop players and add new ones to fit in their new scheme. It boggles the mind as to why the Browns dont just build through the draft and let the Qb and coach stay in place. I think Shurmur is doing a fair job, but its going to take time to put together a winning formula and get everyone on the same page. I just hope for your sakes there isnt any significant changes this off-season. However, from an article I recently read, Shurmur really likes RGIII.

            Schurmer is doing a fair job???????????????????? What team are you watching? 13 points a game on average isn't going to win more than 4 games a year. Schurmer is supposed to be this great play caller, but I sure haven't seen it at all. He's a horrible clock manager, lacks passion and fire. The guy is an emotionless, gutless, robot.

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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              W WJ Brownfan wrote on last edited by
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              The "Fire" is only an issue when the team is losing. The play calling, however, is just terrible. I mean really.

              The first down, off-set I is sooooo predictable it is almost a guaranteed loss of yards, and yet Shurmur continues to run it, with no variations.

              Plus, the 5 yard outs when they need 8 or 10 is just mind-boggling.

              A smarter and more aggressive OC will be nice.

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                The "Fire" is only an issue when the team is losing. The play calling, however, is just terrible. I mean really.

                The first down, off-set I is sooooo predictable it is almost a guaranteed loss of yards, and yet Shurmur continues to run it, with no variations.

                Plus, the 5 yard outs when they need 8 or 10 is just mind-boggling.

                A smarter and more aggressive OC will be nice.

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                @wj-brownfan said:

                The "Fire" is only an issue when the team is losing. The play calling, however, is just terrible. I mean really.

                The first down, off-set I is sooooo predictable it is almost a guaranteed loss of yards, and yet Shurmur continues to run it, with no variations.

                Plus, the 5 yard outs when they need 8 or 10 is just mind-boggling.

                A smarter and more aggressive OC will be nice.

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