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Seneca 10X's Better Than Colt..and Rg3 Is 10X's Better Than Senaca....so......

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  • S Sheepdog

    Just like Harry Buffalo and Nw220 said, it is not just about this year. You have to look at the 2013 and 2014 drafts and evaluate the QB prospects. Off the top of my head the top prospects coming out next year will possibly be Barkley from USC, Murray from Georgia, Jones from Oklahoma and Wilson from Wisconsin. RGIII is better than any of those in comparison. The only thing that might bring up some questions is the fact that RGIII ran a spread/option offense at Baylor and the transition to the WCO could be difficult though I think with his intelligence he will pick it up quickly.

    RGIII is the type of player we need. Someone to escape the blitzing defense of Pittsburgh and the Ratbirds but still accurate enough to throw the ball. Not sure where he heard it from but a buddy of mine said that Washington may try and trade up to get RGIII. I don't see any of the three teams drafting ahead of us trading down in the draft but who knows.

    My ideal draft is RGIII with our first pick and then trade our second 1st round and 2nd round pick to trade up in the draft to go after Blackmon.

    H Hempman wrote on
    #29

    @sheepdog said:

    Just like Harry Buffalo and Nw220 said, it is not just about this year. You have to look at the 2013 and 2014 drafts and evaluate the QB prospects. Off the top of my head the top prospects coming out next year will possibly be Barkley from USC, Murray from Georgia, Jones from Oklahoma and Wilson from Wisconsin. RGIII is better than any of those in comparison. The only thing that might bring up some questions is the fact that RGIII ran a spread/option offense at Baylor and the transition to the WCO could be difficult though I think with his intelligence he will pick it up quickly.

    RGIII is the type of player we need. Someone to escape the blitzing defense of Pittsburgh and the Ratbirds but still accurate enough to throw the ball. Not sure where he heard it from but a buddy of mine said that Washington may try and trade up to get RGIII. I don't see any of the three teams drafting ahead of us trading down in the draft but who knows.

    My ideal draft is RGIII with our first pick and then trade our second 1st round and 2nd round pick to trade up in the draft to go after Blackmon.

    Uh, Wilson is a senior and Jones may come out this year. Barkley isn't a big time prospect IMO. Slow release and noodle arm.

  • H Hempman

    @sheepdog said:

    Just like Harry Buffalo and Nw220 said, it is not just about this year. You have to look at the 2013 and 2014 drafts and evaluate the QB prospects. Off the top of my head the top prospects coming out next year will possibly be Barkley from USC, Murray from Georgia, Jones from Oklahoma and Wilson from Wisconsin. RGIII is better than any of those in comparison. The only thing that might bring up some questions is the fact that RGIII ran a spread/option offense at Baylor and the transition to the WCO could be difficult though I think with his intelligence he will pick it up quickly.

    RGIII is the type of player we need. Someone to escape the blitzing defense of Pittsburgh and the Ratbirds but still accurate enough to throw the ball. Not sure where he heard it from but a buddy of mine said that Washington may try and trade up to get RGIII. I don't see any of the three teams drafting ahead of us trading down in the draft but who knows.

    My ideal draft is RGIII with our first pick and then trade our second 1st round and 2nd round pick to trade up in the draft to go after Blackmon.

    Uh, Wilson is a senior and Jones may come out this year. Barkley isn't a big time prospect IMO. Slow release and noodle arm.

    Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on
    #30

    @hempman said:

    Uh, Wilson is a senior and Jones may come out this year. Barkley isn't a big time prospect IMO. Slow release and noodle arm.

    But he still would have been taken top 10 this year, with another year to play he would move up draft boards more than likely making himself the #1 QB next year. You basically also just agreed with him. From what I see with QB's coming out in the draft next year there is no one better than RGIII, so why not draft him this year instead of using McCoy as a stop gate and waiting to draft a lesser QB next year.

    Ruining threads since 1897.
  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    @hempman said:

    Uh, Wilson is a senior and Jones may come out this year. Barkley isn't a big time prospect IMO. Slow release and noodle arm.

    But he still would have been taken top 10 this year, with another year to play he would move up draft boards more than likely making himself the #1 QB next year. You basically also just agreed with him. From what I see with QB's coming out in the draft next year there is no one better than RGIII, so why not draft him this year instead of using McCoy as a stop gate and waiting to draft a lesser QB next year.

    N Nw220 wrote on
    #31

    @harry-buffalo said:

    But he still would have been taken top 10 this year, with another year to play he would move up draft boards more than likely making himself the #1 QB next year. You basically also just agreed with him. From what I see with QB's coming out in the draft next year there is no one better than RGIII, so why not draft him this year instead of using McCoy as a stop gate and waiting to draft a lesser QB next year.

    Excatly even if you decide to play McCoy this year, that would still give Griffin a year in are system and a one up on whoever you would wanna take next year...Not to mention he is a better prospect than anyone coming out next year..

  • N Nw220

    @harry-buffalo said:

    But he still would have been taken top 10 this year, with another year to play he would move up draft boards more than likely making himself the #1 QB next year. You basically also just agreed with him. From what I see with QB's coming out in the draft next year there is no one better than RGIII, so why not draft him this year instead of using McCoy as a stop gate and waiting to draft a lesser QB next year.

    Excatly even if you decide to play McCoy this year, that would still give Griffin a year in are system and a one up on whoever you would wanna take next year...Not to mention he is a better prospect than anyone coming out next year..

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #32

    @nw220 said:

    Excatly even if you decide to play McCoy this year, that would still give Griffin a year in are system and a one up on whoever you would wanna take next year...Not to mention he is a better prospect than anyone coming out next year..

    If you draft Griffin...McCoy is traded. You aren't drafting a QB at #4 and having him sit on the bench for a year.

  • Mark OM Mark O

    @nw220 said:

    Excatly even if you decide to play McCoy this year, that would still give Griffin a year in are system and a one up on whoever you would wanna take next year...Not to mention he is a better prospect than anyone coming out next year..

    If you draft Griffin...McCoy is traded. You aren't drafting a QB at #4 and having him sit on the bench for a year.

    N Nw220 wrote on
    #33

    @mark-o said:

    If you draft Griffin...McCoy is traded. You aren't drafting a QB at #4 and having him sit on the bench for a year.

    I do believe we will Draft Griffin and i do believe McCoy will start the season, not saying how long he will stay the starter though...I believe Wallace is the odd man out

  • N Nw220

    @mark-o said:

    If you draft Griffin...McCoy is traded. You aren't drafting a QB at #4 and having him sit on the bench for a year.

    I do believe we will Draft Griffin and i do believe McCoy will start the season, not saying how long he will stay the starter though...I believe Wallace is the odd man out

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #34

    @nw220 said:

    I do believe we will Draft Griffin and i do believe McCoy will start the season, not saying how long he will stay the starter though...I believe Wallace is the odd man out

    I think McCoy would be the guy to go because he's young and some other team might be willing to give up a late pick for him to have him on the roster. Think the Houston Texans would like having him about now? Wallace has no value to other teams and also has a 3 million per year contract. I believe if we draft a QB in round 1 he's the new starter and Wallace (because Holmgren loves him) stays as a back up.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @tour2ma said:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/superbowl/features/mvps#/dougwilliams/

    one out of 44. hmmm...what that's a whopping .0227%!!!!!!!

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #35

    @miktoxic said:

    one out of 44. hmmm...what that's a whopping .0227%!!!!!!!

    First, it only takes one time to prove something can be done...

    Second, it's 2.27%... Time for a new calculator.

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  • B brownfish wrote on
    #36

    if we do pick up a QB which i doubt would much rather keep Colt...He has learned more about the WCO in 1/2 a year than Seneca has in almost 10. I don't want a selfish animal in our backfield. RG3 is smaller than colt and will get knocked unconcious by every white boy out there.

  • B brownfish

    if we do pick up a QB which i doubt would much rather keep Colt...He has learned more about the WCO in 1/2 a year than Seneca has in almost 10. I don't want a selfish animal in our backfield. RG3 is smaller than colt and will get knocked unconcious by every white boy out there.

    H Hempman wrote on
    #37

    @brownfish said:

    if we do pick up a QB which i doubt would much rather keep Colt...He has learned more about the WCO in 1/2 a year than Seneca has in almost 10. I don't want a selfish animal in our backfield. RG3 is smaller than colt and will get knocked unconcious by every white boy out there.

    Even if the Browns keep Colt they need to draft another QB. Colt's pocket awareness is as bad as his accuracy/touch. The Harrison blow maybe will knock some sense into him, but I doubt it.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #38

    I disagree Cal...if we draft a QB in round 1, he's starting week one next season baring injury. I think Colt would be traded for whatever we can get for him and Seneca will stay as the backup. Mark

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    That's cool. But Seneca disappointed me badly as a backup. I don't see any fire in him, just a quick throw to somewhere to keep

    from getting sacked. That's the only way I can explain his int to Pollyisasackofpoopoo.

    Seriously, I see Seneca as a veteran who is getting up there in years, stood on the sidelines over all these weeks and watched

    Colt's plays. Then he starts and makes worse mistakes that Colt has.

    The Browns MUST have another impact draft - and drafting a qb sets the list of DE, CB, OT,big OG, LB up for failure maybe.

    Whatever this Browns fo does. it will be the absolute right thing for each pick.

    Maybe.... the one goofball pundit I heard on the radio being interviewed was right... maybe Peyton comes back solid,

    and ready to go. and the Colts draft Blackmon instead.... @@🙄

  • Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on
    #39

    He looks like another Denard Robinson, maybe we can make him a wide receiver.

    Head or Gut?
  • S Sheepdog wrote on
    #40

    So many ways to go with the draft this year. Their are only two ways I think we can truly go WRONG with the draft;

    -Trade out of the #4 pick.

    -Not pick up a WR with one of our two first round picks.

    Other than that we should be fine. Last years draft was real good with Taylor, Sheard (sp?) to name a few.

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