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98% Certain Of Our 1St Pick In The 2012 Draft

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  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #21

    Zombo said:

    Band Aid?

    If you sign Manning, the window is shorter, but you go for it all.

    He picks OC. You get him receivers he needs.

    You've got 4 or 5 years to contend.

    His last 12 years as a starter, his team won 10 or more games 11 times.

    When he last left the field he threw for 4,700 yards, 66%, 33 TDs.

    He is 35, not 40.

    He can give you four or five HALL OF FAME years instead of toying with the next Couch or Quinn for three or four.

    I think Luck and Griffin are winners.

    But if they are gone, and Blackmon is gone ... you go MANNING.

    All the Right Tackles and Defensive Ends in the world aren't going to make Colt McCoy a Super Bowl QB, let's quit farting around and go balls deep this year.

    Zombo

    Sorry Z the Fal-coons went for it all selling the Farm to get Juilo Jones. Want to tell me how that one worked out? Montana to KC? Remember that one? Farve Vikes?

    BS if you think Manning has another 4-5 years in the tank. You'll get Small of Fame years from a fading talent- the window is zero years. If Irsay's smart, he'll unload Manning for a first round pick to any sucker dumb enough to make that move, Dan Snyder being at the top of the list. Farve couldn't get the Vikings over the top, you really think Manning could do it for the Browns with far inferior talent?

    Hmmmm...... how's TJ Yates working out in the Playoffs?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #22

    Zombo said:

    Or ... reverse the situation. Let's say we already have Peyton Manning, but we need a Right Tackle. Do you trade Peyton Manning in order to draft a Right Tackle? No, you would be insane. And you would be just as insane to draft a Right Tackle if you can trade that pick for Peyton Manning.

    THAT is a persuasive argument... but is it a little too universal?

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  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #23

    Zombo said:

    TJ Yates, really? That's your Peyton Manning argument?

    Yates beat another rookie QB ... someone had to win that game.

    Those teams are in the playoffs due to theie defensive coordinators, Bum Phillips and Mike Zimmer.

    Zombo

    Just sayin' we don't need to toss away a first round pick (and I guarantee that's what it's going to take) on a soon to be has been when you can find a far younger decent qb- and not necessarily in the first round either.

    Dalton and Green took the Bengals from a crap team to the playoffs in one year. Dalton is how many years younger than Manning? And you're still haven't given me a rational argument as to how Manning is going to put the Browns in the Super Bowl when Montana and Farve couldn't do it at the end of their careers.

    Hell, for all we know this may be a moot argument if Peyton decides to retire. Want to think what could happen to Manning if he absorbed a Harrison shot that shelved McCoy? He might be dead.

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