Breaking news ....
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it's just not our biggest need. we need an ILB and RB far more than we need corners.
And drafting for need is about as goofy a way to daft as can happen...at least in the early rounds.
Unless it is totally stupid to draft a position, never pass on great players.
Plus....we need a corner.....McDonald or Wright in the slot works for me...you basically upgrade 2 positions with the drafting of Jenkins. You get a great corner, and you don't have to see #25 chasing down receivers after a 15 yard gain.
Is that so bad??
And drafting for need is about as goofy a way to daft as can happen...at least in the early rounds.
Unless it is totally stupid to draft a position, never pass on great players.
Plus....we need a corner.....McDonald or Wright in the slot works for me...you basically upgrade 2 positions with the drafting of Jenkins. You get a great corner, and you don't have to see #25 chasing down receivers after a 15 yard gain.
Is that so bad??
no, it's not so bad. jenkins will likely be a good pro, and i'd be ok with us getting him. curry and mays have just as much potential, though, and while mays doesn't fill as much of a need as curry does (ILB being our biggest need IMO), he has the highest ceiling of all three and could be a game-changing player on a consistent basis.
curry at ILB will keep us from being gashed regularly in the run game and can rush the passer. plus, the added pressure that ryan's scheme should bring might mean that our corners don't have to hold their men in check for as long.
plus, there's the possibility of nnamdi asomugha landing here in FA. he definitely wants out of oakland; he cleaned out his locker after their last practice, even before their last game this season. it's unclear whether that's because of a personality conflict with ryan or because of the organization in general, but getting his former DC who helped him become the player he is could be key in us landing him if we choose to pursue him.
we can improve our team more by drafting equivalent players at five. jenkins will be good, but there are other guys who will be just as good and fit our needs better.
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And drafting for need is about as goofy a way to daft as can happen...at least in the early rounds.
Unless it is totally stupid to draft a position, never pass on great players.
Plus....we need a corner.....McDonald or Wright in the slot works for me...you basically upgrade 2 positions with the drafting of Jenkins. You get a great corner, and you don't have to see #25 chasing down receivers after a 15 yard gain.
Is that so bad??
no, it's not so bad. jenkins will likely be a good pro, and i'd be ok with us getting him. curry and mays have just as much potential, though, and while mays doesn't fill as much of a need as curry does (ILB being our biggest need IMO), he has the highest ceiling of all three and could be a game-changing player on a consistent basis.
curry at ILB will keep us from being gashed regularly in the run game and can rush the passer. plus, the added pressure that ryan's scheme should bring might mean that our corners don't have to hold their men in check for as long.
plus, there's the possibility of nnamdi asomugha landing here in FA. he definitely wants out of oakland; he cleaned out his locker after their last practice, even before their last game this season. it's unclear whether that's because of a personality conflict with ryan or because of the organization in general, but getting his former DC who helped him become the player he is could be key in us landing him if we choose to pursue him.
we can improve our team more by drafting equivalent players at five. jenkins will be good, but there are other guys who will be just as good and fit our needs better.
no, it's not so bad. jenkins will likely be a good pro, and i'd be ok with us getting him. curry and mays have just as much potential, though, and while mays doesn't fill as much of a need as curry does (ILB being our biggest need IMO), he has the highest ceiling of all three and could be a game-changing player on a consistent basis.
curry at ILB will keep us from being gashed regularly in the run game and can rush the passer. plus, the added pressure that ryan's scheme should bring might mean that our corners don't have to hold their men in check for as long.
plus, there's the possibility of nnamdi asomugha landing here in FA. he definitely wants out of oakland; he cleaned out his locker after their last practice, even before their last game this season. it's unclear whether that's because of a personality conflict with ryan or because of the organization in general, but getting his former DC who helped him become the player he is could be key in us landing him if we choose to pursue him.
we can improve our team more by drafting equivalent players at five. jenkins will be good, but there are other guys who will be just as good and fit our needs better.
On NFL radio recently, they were talking about how CB is one position that always makes sense to draft rather than go FA. The reason being that a) they're easy to scout. They either can cover, catch and tackle or they can't and
the inflation of salaries in FA is pretty bad for CBs (see Nate Clements).Dunno. Nnamdi (?sp) is damned good.
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I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude towards Ryan. He's been the DC in Oakland since 2004. Here's where the Raiders ranked this year:
(*)=Ranked higher than the Browns in the same year
Points Per Game: 24 (#24 in the league)
Yards Per Game: 361 (#27 in the league)
And in 2007:
PPG: 25 (#26)
YPG: 342 (#22)*
2006:
PPG: 21 (#18)*
YPG: 285 (#3)*
2005:
PPG: 24 (#25)
YPG: 331 (#27)
2004:
PPG: 28 (#31)
YPG: 371 (#30)
So...five years, one ranking in the top half of the league, three rankings higher than the Browns over the same period.
Dennis
I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude towards Ryan. He's been the DC in Oakland since 2004. Here's where the Raiders ranked this year:
(*)=Ranked higher than the Browns in the same year
Points Per Game: 24 (#24 in the league)
Yards Per Game: 361 (#27 in the league)
And in 2007:
PPG: 25 (#26)
YPG: 342 (#22)*
2006:
PPG: 21 (#18)*
YPG: 285 (#3)*
2005:
PPG: 24 (#25)
YPG: 331 (#27)
2004:
PPG: 28 (#31)
YPG: 371 (#30)
So...five years, one ranking in the top half of the league, three rankings higher than the Browns over the same period.
Dennis
What were their offensive numbers for those years? Having a bad offense can make the defensive numbers look bad since they spend too much time on the field.
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So Brian Daboll is our new OC?
That scares me
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Menacing....if nothing else....we can send him out to midfield for the "steel cage death match".
Hahaha.... Ive heard of this guy. He's supposed to be really good and aggressive! He's damn scary lookin, I dont even think Joe Thomas would want a 1 on 1 matchup with this guy
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no, it's not so bad. jenkins will likely be a good pro, and i'd be ok with us getting him. curry and mays have just as much potential, though, and while mays doesn't fill as much of a need as curry does (ILB being our biggest need IMO), he has the highest ceiling of all three and could be a game-changing player on a consistent basis.
curry at ILB will keep us from being gashed regularly in the run game and can rush the passer. plus, the added pressure that ryan's scheme should bring might mean that our corners don't have to hold their men in check for as long.
plus, there's the possibility of nnamdi asomugha landing here in FA. he definitely wants out of oakland; he cleaned out his locker after their last practice, even before their last game this season. it's unclear whether that's because of a personality conflict with ryan or because of the organization in general, but getting his former DC who helped him become the player he is could be key in us landing him if we choose to pursue him.
we can improve our team more by drafting equivalent players at five. jenkins will be good, but there are other guys who will be just as good and fit our needs better.
On NFL radio recently, they were talking about how CB is one position that always makes sense to draft rather than go FA. The reason being that a) they're easy to scout. They either can cover, catch and tackle or they can't and
the inflation of salaries in FA is pretty bad for CBs (see Nate Clements).Dunno. Nnamdi (?sp) is damned good.
On NFL radio recently, they were talking about how CB is one position that always makes sense to draft rather than go FA. The reason being that a) they're easy to scout. They either can cover, catch and tackle or they can't and
the inflation of salaries in FA is pretty bad for CBs (see Nate Clements).
Dunno. Nnamdi (?sp) is damned good.
it's true that nnamdi will command a ridiculous salary in free agency. it's up to the front office to decide how quickly they want to win; signing asomugha means we can go a different direction in the draft and field a more competitive team faster, something lerner's shown he's willing to spend the money to do.
personally, i hope they sign him. a proven quantity is better than an unknown when you're not paying the bills.
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I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Jerome Harrison
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Menacing....if nothing else....we can send him out to midfield for the "steel cage death match".
Hahaha.... Ive heard of this guy. He's supposed to be really good and aggressive! He's damn scary lookin, I dont even think Joe Thomas would want a 1 on 1 matchup with this guy
Hahaha.... Ive heard of this guy. He's supposed to be really good and aggressive! He's damn scary lookin, I dont even think Joe Thomas would want a 1 on 1 matchup with this guy
maybe we could get a payed per view steel cage match
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Here is our Head Coaching Staff So Far
Eric Mangini
(He Needs to Loose some Weight)
Rob Ryan
Brian Daboll
They all look like hardasses, well... Mangini looks like the kid that got picked on in middleschool that now is "smarter than everyone" and makes millions a year
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Driving home today, 6:30pm California time, they had an interview on Fox Sports radio, with Andre Nott? sideline reporter from WTAM radio, claiming RAC will be the Defensive Coordinator. This was about 30 minutes ago. Claimed RAC and Mangini are great friends and RAC would only take the demotion for Mangini.
Also said he was in a group of reporters that, while they were walking to the interview room to talk with Lerner, found out Mangini was fired, they told Lerner and his eyes lit up and he apparently left the interview to get more info, make a phone call or two.
Don't know the reliability of this guy, but..........
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Driving home today, 6:30pm California time, they had an interview on Fox Sports radio, with Andre Nott? sideline reporter from WTAM radio, claiming RAC will be the Defensive Coordinator. This was about 30 minutes ago. Claimed RAC and Mangini are great friends and RAC would only take the demotion for Mangini.
Also said he was in a group of reporters that, while they were walking to the interview room to talk with Lerner, found out Mangini was fired, they told Lerner and his eyes lit up and he apparently left the interview to get more info, make a phone call or two.
Don't know the reliability of this guy, but..........
Driving home today, 6:30pm California time, they had an interview on Fox Sports radio, with Andre Nott? sideline reporter from WTAM radio, claiming RAC will be the Defensive Coordinator. This was about 30 minutes ago. Claimed RAC and Mangini are great friends and RAC would only take the demotion for Mangini.
Also said he was in a group of reporters that, while they were walking to the interview room to talk with Lerner, found out Mangini was fired, they told Lerner and his eyes lit up and he apparently left the interview to get more info, make a phone call or two.
Don't know the reliability of this guy, but..........
It was reported earlier that Mangini and Crennel talked and Crennel decided it would be better for Mangini if he moved on.
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Driving home today, 6:30pm California time, they had an interview on Fox Sports radio, with Andre Nott? sideline reporter from WTAM radio, claiming RAC will be the Defensive Coordinator. This was about 30 minutes ago. Claimed RAC and Mangini are great friends and RAC would only take the demotion for Mangini.
Also said he was in a group of reporters that, while they were walking to the interview room to talk with Lerner, found out Mangini was fired, they told Lerner and his eyes lit up and he apparently left the interview to get more info, make a phone call or two.
Don't know the reliability of this guy, but..........
Driving home today, 6:30pm California time, they had an interview on Fox Sports radio, with Andre Nott? sideline reporter from WTAM radio, claiming RAC will be the Defensive Coordinator. This was about 30 minutes ago. Claimed RAC and Mangini are great friends and RAC would only take the demotion for Mangini.
Also said he was in a group of reporters that, while they were walking to the interview room to talk with Lerner, found out Mangini was fired, they told Lerner and his eyes lit up and he apparently left the interview to get more info, make a phone call or two.
Don't know the reliability of this guy, but..........
Andre is normally quite good; it appears he swung and missed on that one though..
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Driving home today, 6:30pm California time, they had an interview on Fox Sports radio, with Andre Nott? sideline reporter from WTAM radio, claiming RAC will be the Defensive Coordinator. This was about 30 minutes ago. Claimed RAC and Mangini are great friends and RAC would only take the demotion for Mangini.
Also said he was in a group of reporters that, while they were walking to the interview room to talk with Lerner, found out Mangini was fired, they told Lerner and his eyes lit up and he apparently left the interview to get more info, make a phone call or two.
Don't know the reliability of this guy, but..........
Andre is normally quite good; it appears he swung and missed on that one though..
Andre is normally quite good; it appears he swung and missed on that one though..
I sure hope so. I don't want him to be right this time.
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One thing about Ryan....he plays press coverage on the outside.
I think this just made Malcom Jenkins the odds on favorite as our #1 pick.
For him to run his D, he needs at least one top notch corner...I mean top notch.
Jenkins is the pick.
One thing about Ryan....he plays press coverage on the outside.
I think this just made Malcom Jenkins the odds on favorite as our #1 pick.
For him to run his D, he needs at least one top notch corner...I mean top notch.
Jenkins is the pick.
FoxSports just had their first mock draft on the computer this morning and
at #5 they have the Browns taking none other than....................Malcom Jenkins.
This was before Mangini was confirmed.
Personally, I would rather see a pass rusher. It doesn't matter WHO you have at
corner if you don't have a pass rush.
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One thing about Ryan....he plays press coverage on the outside.
I think this just made Malcom Jenkins the odds on favorite as our #1 pick.
For him to run his D, he needs at least one top notch corner...I mean top notch.
Jenkins is the pick.
FoxSports just had their first mock draft on the computer this morning and
at #5 they have the Browns taking none other than....................Malcom Jenkins.
This was before Mangini was confirmed.
Personally, I would rather see a pass rusher. It doesn't matter WHO you have at
corner if you don't have a pass rush.
FoxSports just had their first mock draft on the computer this morning and
at #5 they have the Browns taking none other than....................Malcom Jenkins.
This was before Mangini was confirmed.
Personally, I would rather see a pass rusher. It doesn't matter WHO you have at
corner if you don't have a pass rush.
Hey guys, I have many Browns fans as friends and getting Mangini will set you back another 3-5 years from anything as he is set in his ways and stubborn. He lost his team in NY with the way he treated players and he will to you too. I hope well for you guys as I dont dislike the Browns, but I think your team should have looked hard at other available coaches. Maybe Im wrong.
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