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  • I think the focus has to remain on the defensive side of the ball.

    While any team drafting in the top 10 should view things primarily through the BPA lens, its silly to let that be your sole guide.

    I think the combination of events this past year on the offensive side can't be under emphasized:

    - Loss of Ryan Tucker, our best OL

    - BE injury causing an out of sync start to the season in the entire passing game

    - JJ injury (no reliable third down receiver in his absence)

    - Stallworth's lack of availability in the first half

    - QB injuries

    From where I sit, I see a good probability that our offense can turn around pretty quickly with the core personnel in place. However, it is equally clear to me that our lack of defensive playmakers must be addressed.

    If I'm the personnel guy in this upcoming draft, I'm doing everything I can to maximize the acquisition of at least one playmaker on defense. Period.

  • Stupid!

    Lets draft a RT in the top 5?

    Stupid!

    Look at the Steelers - they have the worst RT in the NFL and they are in the AFCCG. RT is over rated!

  • LOL Rock.

    If a player is rated nearly everywhere as a top 5 talent, it isn't stupid to draft him.

    It may not be WHO YOU want, but so what??

    Has a member of the Browns front office ever called your house to solicit your input on the draft??

  • LOL Rock.

    If a player is rated nearly everywhere as a top 5 talent, it isn't stupid to draft him.

    It may not be WHO YOU want, but so what??

    Has a member of the Browns front office ever called your house to solicit your input on the draft??

    @ballpeen said:

    If a player is rated nearly everywhere as a top 5 talent, it isn't stupid to draft him.

    It can be stupid, for sure. Like in this case.

    We already have a top-3 pick playing Smith's position. Again, it's like the Vikings drafting a RB with a top-5 pick.

    And why does everyone assume you need a stud pass-protector at RT? You don't. On the left side, you usually face each team's best pass rusher week in and week out. Why pay Smith top-5 $ when you can get a much cheaper option???

  • He is more a run blocker....and it might not be a better option.

  • He is more a run blocker....and it might not be a better option.

    @ballpeen said:

    He is more a run blocker....and it might not be a better option.

    Then someone is going to pay way too much for a LT who doesn't excel at pass-blocking.

  • I for drafting either maualuga or crabtree.

    In the perfect world, we can get a 2nd rounder for DA

    Therefore our Draft by position would look like:

    1st: ILB/MLB

    2nd: RB

    2nd: RT

    5th: SS

    7th: WR

    Or

    1st: WR (only crabtree)

    2nd: ILB/MLB

    2nd: RB

    5th: RT

    7th: SS

  • ballpeen's right about Smith potentially being an elite NFL run-blocker. But he could be the kind of guy who struggles against speed-rushers, something that teams like the Steelers and Ravens would love to use against us. They could just draft Brandon Spikes next year & let him rush past Smith all day 😉

    By the way, here's the breakdown of where current NFL starting RT's were taken in the draft.

    • Round 1: 8
    • Round 2: 7
    • Round 3: 7
    • Round 4: 5
    • Round 5: 1
    • Round 6: 1
    • Round 7: 2
    • Undrafted: 1
    Those numbers are a bit skewed by some 1st Rounders busting at LT & moving to the other side. But even without factoring that in, it's clear that most teams (75%) find their RT after the 1st Round.

    And the 1st Rounders drafted to play RT tended to be taken in the middle of the round or later. Only one, Levi Brown, was taken top five, and he was picked by a team building around a southpaw QB.

  • No one's going to give up a 2nd rounder for DA.

    It's not going to happen, no matter how hard you wish.

    With luck, the Browns can hopefully find someone willing to give up a fourth.

  • No one's going to give up a 2nd rounder for DA.

    It's not going to happen, no matter how hard you wish.

    With luck, the Browns can hopefully find someone willing to give up a fourth.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    No one's going to give up a 2nd rounder for DA.

    It's not going to happen, no matter how hard you wish.

    With luck, the Browns can hopefully find someone willing to give up a fourth.

    DA rode the bench for years! A fourth round pick is sufficient enough for me!

  • Stupid!

    Lets draft a RT in the top 5?

    Stupid!

    Look at the Steelers - they have the worst RT in the NFL and they are in the AFCCG. RT is over rated!

    @rocky20 said:

    Stupid!

    Lets draft a RT in the top 5?

    Stupid!

    Look at the Steelers - they have the worst RT in the NFL and they are in the AFCCG. RT is over rated!

    Only because Ben is put together with 'roids, metal, and plastic. The Steeler 'line' (such as it is) has probably shortened his career by 5 years.

  • We need a RG hadnot showed that he is only a capable back-up we also need to get a RT only if Tucker isnt available to go.

  • I for drafting either maualuga or crabtree.

    In the perfect world, we can get a 2nd rounder for DA

    Therefore our Draft by position would look like:

    1st: ILB/MLB

    2nd: RB

    2nd: RT

    5th: SS

    7th: WR

    Or

    1st: WR (only crabtree)

    2nd: ILB/MLB

    2nd: RB

    5th: RT

    7th: SS

    @playgroundlegend said:

    I for drafting either maualuga or crabtree.

    Drafting WR's high in the draft worries me to no end. For every decent one drafted in the mid first round or higher there is more than one awful WR drafted in the first round . I just don't like the historical odds. We can say Crabbtree is a can't miss guy but that's been said about all 1st round WR's or they wouldn't have been drafted that high in the first place.

    Roy Williams, Reggie Williams, Michael Clayton, Michael Jenkins, Charles Rogers, Bryant Johnson, Mike Williams, Brylon Edwards, Mike Clayton, Donte Stallworth, Ashley Lelie, Dave Terrell, Koren Robinson, Fredie Mitchell.......Even if you want to consider a few of these guys marginally successful they are NOT worth a #1 pick.