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Theclevelandsound's Mock Draft 2012

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  • Here is my mock draft. Critique as you must:

    1. Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB Stanford

    2. Washington Redskins: Robert Griffin III, QB Baylor

    3. Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, OT Southern California

    4. Cleveland Browns: Trent Richardson, RB Alabama

    5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne, CB Louisiana State

    6. St. Louis Rams: Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State

    7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Melvin Ingram, DE South Carolina

    8. Miami Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, QB Texas A&M

    9. Carolina Panthers: Dontari Poe, DT Memphis

    10. Buffalo Bills: Riley Reiff, OT Iowa

    11. Kansas City Chiefs: David DeCastro, OG Stanford

    12. Seattle Seahawks: Luke Kuechly, ILB Boston College

    13. Arizona Cardinals: Fletcher Cox, DT Mississippi State

    14. Dallas Cowboys: Mark Barron, S Alabama

    15. Philadelphia Eagles: Quinton Coples, DE North Carolina

    16. New York Jets: Chandler Jones, DE Syracuse

    17. Cincinnati Bengals: Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina

    18. San Diego Chargers: Michael Brockers, DT Louisiana State

    19. Chicago Bears: Michael Floyd, WR Norte Dame

    20. Tennessee Titans: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB Alabama

    21. Cincinnati Bengals: Courtney Upshaw, DE Alabama

    22. Cleveland Browns: Kendall Wright, WR Baylor

    23. Detroit Lions: Jenoris Jenkins, CB North Alabama

    24. Pittsburgh: Cordy Glenn, OT Georgia

    25. Denver Broncos: Nick Perry, DE Southern California

    26. Houston Texans: Stephen Hill, WR Georgia Tech

    27. New England Patriots: Shea McClellin, OLB Boise State

    28. Green Bay Packers: Harrison Smith, S Norte Dame

    29. Baltimore Ravens: Peter Konz, C Wisconsin

    30. San Francisco 49ers: Coby Fleener, TE Stanford

    31. New England Patriots: Jerel Worthy, DT Michigan State

    32. New York Giants: Dont'a Hightower, ILB Alabama

  • and once again the giants making the best selection of the draft's first round.

    how much stronger can one team's defense get?

    love hightower.

  • and once again the giants making the best selection of the draft's first round.

    how much stronger can one team's defense get?

    love hightower.

    @miktoxic said:

    and once again the giants making the best selection of the draft's first round.

    how much stronger can one team's defense get?

    love hightower.

    They have a dire need at middle linebacker. And they become very fortunate in my mock draft.

  • @miktoxic said:

    and once again the giants making the best selection of the draft's first round.

    how much stronger can one team's defense get?

    love hightower.

    They have a dire need at middle linebacker. And they become very fortunate in my mock draft.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    They have a dire need at middle linebacker.

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    They have a dire need at middle linebacker.

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    @miktoxic said:

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    They have a dire need at middle linebacker.

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    @miktoxic said:

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    Our defense finished the regular season ranked 10th in YPG.

    Our offense finished the regular season ranked 29th in YPG.

    Conversely, the NYG defense finished the regular season ranked 27th in YPG.

    The NYG offense, however, finished the regular season ranked 8th in YPG.

    You can't get it done only gaining 280 yards and scoring 13 points per game while giving up over 300 yards and 19 points per game.

    The offense has to catch up with the defense.

  • @miktoxic said:

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    I respect your admiral attempt to make a point, but you're just as wrong as the poster you quoted.

    No way DQwell is ELITE. And, Fujita will probably not be starting this year regardless of any suspension.

    LB is a need of ours BUT offense is by far the greater need

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    I respect your admiral attempt to make a point, but you're just as wrong as the poster you quoted.

    No way DQwell is ELITE. And, Fujita will probably not be starting this year regardless of any suspension.

    LB is a need of ours BUT offense is by far the greater need

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    @thenew23 said:

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    yeah, ok.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    I respect your admiral attempt to make a point, but you're just as wrong as the poster you quoted.

    No way DQwell is ELITE. And, Fujita will probably not be starting this year regardless of any suspension.

    LB is a need of ours BUT offense is by far the greater need

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    @thenew23 said:

    I respect your admiral attempt to make a point, but you're just as wrong as the poster you quoted.

    No way DQwell is ELITE. And, Fujita will probably not be starting this year regardless of any suspension.

    LB is a need of ours BUT offense is by far the greater need

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    Please explain to me how Jackson isn't elite. He would be the #1 linebacker on every team except Chicago, Green Bay, and Baltimore.

  • @miktoxic said:

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    Whoa whoa whoa there bud, i know he's had one good year out of 3 but in no way no how is DQJ ELITE sorry. Not there YET.

  • @thenew23 said:

    I respect your admiral attempt to make a point, but you're just as wrong as the poster you quoted.

    No way DQwell is ELITE. And, Fujita will probably not be starting this year regardless of any suspension.

    LB is a need of ours BUT offense is by far the greater need

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    Please explain to me how Jackson isn't elite. He would be the #1 linebacker on every team except Chicago, Green Bay, and Baltimore.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Please explain to me how Jackson isn't elite. He would be the #1 linebacker on every team except Chicago, Green Bay, and Baltimore.

    I guess it depends on what you consider elite. I'm not ready to put him on a level with Lewis, Matthews, Urlacher, Harrison, etc... He's only played one full season, and played well, but not at a level that I personally would consider elite

  • @thenew23 said:

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    yeah, ok.

    @miktoxic said:

    yeah, ok.

    Nice comeback. 🙂

  • I don't see Floyd falling that far

    and if he did I think we would try to move up and get him

  • I don't see Floyd falling that far

    and if he did I think we would try to move up and get him

    @mld-woody said:

    I don't see Floyd falling that far

    and if he did I think we would try to move up and get him

    That's quite possible, but it is pointless to create mock drafts with trades in them.

  • @miktoxic said:

    yeah, ok.

    Nice comeback. 🙂

    @thenew23 said:

    Nice comeback. 🙂

    it was appropriate since you put your foot in your mouth. why respond to ignorance....when the point is lost on the target?

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    They have a dire need at middle linebacker.

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    @miktoxic said:

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    Well said. I too believe that the need for LBs is as dire as the need for a WR/RB/RT. I suspect that the Browns may have to try to load up on some bodies with all those picks in later rounds to try to find a defensive diamond in the rough.

  • @miktoxic said:

    we have needs at all LBs positions, but all we can talk about is richardson or blackmon. yeah i know those positions we need to but WHY?

    why is it so easy for teams like the giants, ravens, steelers and now the 49ers to complete their defense within a couple of years' drafts and continue to build on on it every year while we struggle to put out mediocre product every year with the amount and placing of our draft picks?

    i wouldn't mind if we just got a WR and RB with our first 2 picks and went defense the rest of the way. if richardson is so good we shouldn't waste a OL pick. period fill the position with what we've got and draft him next year right behind the QB we'll all be saying we need.

    because we ALL know defense wins championships.

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Gocong: Emerging is a very solid OLB

    Fujita: Solid OLB (pending suspension)

    Jackson: ELITE MLB

    We draft based on needs. Linebacker is not a need that high in the draft.

    My view is different. I think we have 2 significantly below average OLBs and one very average MLB.

    What was the Browns rank against the run last year?....and who is primarily responsible for containing the run: the LBs.

    These guys sucked swampwater.

  • @thenew23 said:

    I respect your admiral attempt to make a point, but you're just as wrong as the poster you quoted.

    No way DQwell is ELITE. And, Fujita will probably not be starting this year regardless of any suspension.

    LB is a need of ours BUT offense is by far the greater need

    And, the phrase "defense wins championships" is quickly becoming outdated in the NFL

    Please explain to me how Jackson isn't elite. He would be the #1 linebacker on every team except Chicago, Green Bay, and Baltimore.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    Please explain to me how Jackson isn't elite. He would be the #1 linebacker on every team except Chicago, Green Bay, and Baltimore.

    Because on nearly every play he is either: A. out of position B. getting run over C. getting run around.

    Nothing he has done reminds of anything near the likes of a Mike Singletary/Jack Lambert/Ray Nitsche/Dick Butkus/Patrick Willis/Sam Huff/Mike Curtis/Vince Costello/Eddie Johnson...etc. etc. etc. all of whom, yes, I have seen play.

  • @theclevelandsound said:

    Please explain to me how Jackson isn't elite. He would be the #1 linebacker on every team except Chicago, Green Bay, and Baltimore.

    Because on nearly every play he is either: A. out of position B. getting run over C. getting run around.

    Nothing he has done reminds of anything near the likes of a Mike Singletary/Jack Lambert/Ray Nitsche/Dick Butkus/Patrick Willis/Sam Huff/Mike Curtis/Vince Costello/Eddie Johnson...etc. etc. etc. all of whom, yes, I have seen play.

    @the-gipper said:

    Because on nearly every play he is either: A. out of position B. getting run over C. getting run around.

    Nothing he has done reminds of anything near the likes of a Mike Singletary/Jack Lambert/Ray Nitsche/Dick Butkus/Patrick Willis/Sam Huff/Mike Curtis/Vince Costello/Eddie Johnson...etc. etc. etc. all of whom, yes, I have seen play.

    I said he was elite. Blue chip. Not hall of famer. You listed hall of famers. Bad comparison.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Because on nearly every play he is either: A. out of position B. getting run over C. getting run around.

    Nothing he has done reminds of anything near the likes of a Mike Singletary/Jack Lambert/Ray Nitsche/Dick Butkus/Patrick Willis/Sam Huff/Mike Curtis/Vince Costello/Eddie Johnson...etc. etc. etc. all of whom, yes, I have seen play.

    I said he was elite. Blue chip. Not hall of famer. You listed hall of famers. Bad comparison.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    I said he was elite. Blue chip. Not hall of famer. You listed hall of famers. Bad comparison.

    OK, true, for some. I also listed good Browns MLBs like Costello and Johnson.

    That is one thing the Browns have never had....an elite, almost HOF caliber MLB. They have had a couple Pro Bowlers, like Mike Johnson and Tony Adamle...and Vince Costello. But never an elite one.

    And in my mind, DQJ pales in comparison to Mike Johnson who made a couple of Pro Bowls, imo.