Weeden...gonna Puke Now
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Yeah except Joe Thomas is a what, 5 time pro bowler? You are really compairing some oldass college grandpa from a shitty division to a pro bowler?
Barkley would be perfect for the wco.
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You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right? You realize he's better then Tannehill, Matt Barkley, Aaron Murry, and is light years ahead Landry Jones right? He's going to start right away, has all the tools necessary to be a legit QB, and ya'll whine about him being "too old?" We just got a top 5 talent at 22 who isn't a head case, is a professional, a leader and just so happens to play the most important position on the field.
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right?
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
You realize that if a frog could fly his ass wouldn't bump along the ground... right? Weedon's not fuckin' 22... OK?
And I'm dieing to see who you think we are going to land in all those need positions you listed... Here are the picks you have left to work with...
Round 2, Pick 5 (37) --
Round 3, Pick 4 (67) --
Round 4, Pick 5 (100) --
Round 5, Pick 25 (160) (From Broncos)
Round 6, Pick 34 (204) (Compensatory selection)
Round 6, Pick 35 (205) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 38 (245) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 40 (247) (Compensatory selection)
Good luck...
Why the hell couldn't we have at least traded back a few spots to get another 2nd?
If we dont get a Hill/Martin or Jeffrey/Massie (or any mix of them) combo, I want H&H heads on poles! You better trade up in the 2nd to get them!
A few spots back from 22 would not land you a second... Dallas spent a 2nd to move from 14 to 6.
And get your guillotine ready... none of those four players will around in the third round...
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That's why I want them to trade back up in the 2nd, to salvage this draft after that dumb move.
I'm generally not the bitching browns fan, I wanted to give McCoy another year because it was a new system, new coach, and he had no weapons.
We had bigger needs. Good teams build up around a mediocre qb. Look at the ravens, look at how the steelers dealt with Maddox, it's pretty easy. You wasted a good pick here, and this guy is going to bust. Quinn had more potential than Weeden.
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You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right?
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
You realize that if a frog could fly his ass wouldn't bump along the ground... right? Weedon's not fuckin' 22... OK?
And I'm dieing to see who you think we are going to land in all those need positions you listed... Here are the picks you have left to work with...
Round 2, Pick 5 (37) --
Round 3, Pick 4 (67) --
Round 4, Pick 5 (100) --
Round 5, Pick 25 (160) (From Broncos)
Round 6, Pick 34 (204) (Compensatory selection)
Round 6, Pick 35 (205) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 38 (245) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 40 (247) (Compensatory selection)
Good luck...
Why the hell couldn't we have at least traded back a few spots to get another 2nd?
If we dont get a Hill/Martin or Jeffrey/Massie (or any mix of them) combo, I want H&H heads on poles! You better trade up in the 2nd to get them!
A few spots back from 22 would not land you a second... Dallas spent a 2nd to move from 14 to 6.
And get your guillotine ready... none of those four players will around in the third round...
You realize that if a frog could fly his ass wouldn't bump along the ground... right? Weedon's not fuckin' 22... OK?
And I'm dieing to see who you think we are going to land in all those need positions you listed... Here are the picks you have left to work with...
Round 2, Pick 5 (37) --
Round 3, Pick 4 (67) --
Round 4, Pick 5 (100) --
Round 5, Pick 25 (160) (From Broncos)
Round 6, Pick 34 (204) (Compensatory selection)
Round 6, Pick 35 (205) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 38 (245) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 40 (247) (Compensatory selection)
Good luck...
Is Weeden not top 5 talent? Is his age the only thing preventing him from getting picked higher? Is he not better then the QB's I listed that were either A) taken ahead of him (Tannehill) or
supposed to be the top QB's available next year (Barkley, Murry, Jones?) My point with that one sentence you nitpicked is that his only negative is his age. As far as the other needs, I offered no player recommendations for a reason. I have no fucking clue. Nobody does. Hell H&H don't even know yet. What I can see (much like every other Browns fan) is where we have either holes or below average talent. Do you think we're set at the positions I listed?
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That's why I want them to trade back up in the 2nd, to salvage this draft after that dumb move.
I'm generally not the bitching browns fan, I wanted to give McCoy another year because it was a new system, new coach, and he had no weapons.
We had bigger needs. Good teams build up around a mediocre qb. Look at the ravens, look at how the steelers dealt with Maddox, it's pretty easy. You wasted a good pick here, and this guy is going to bust. Quinn had more potential than Weeden.
That's why I want them to trade back up in the 2nd, to salvage this draft after that dumb move.
I'm generally not the bitching browns fan, I wanted to give McCoy another year because it was a new system, new coach, and he had no weapons.
then you really should stop...cause...well, see below.
We had bigger needs. Good teams build up around a mediocre qb. Look at the ravens, look at how the steelers dealt with Maddox, it's pretty easy. You wasted a good pick here, and this guy is going to bust. Quinn had more potential than Weeden.
lmao...bigger needs? says you maybe. the experts disagree that mccoy is worthless....his play proved it. its obvious you've watched no film on weeden if you think the queen had more potential. head to head, weedens team beat the 3 QB's take before him.
Why the hell couldn't we have at least traded back a few spots to get another 2nd?
If we dont get a Hill/Martin or Jeffrey/Massie (or any mix of them) combo, I want H&H heads on poles! You better trade up in the 2nd to get them!
no conception of trading values. trade back a few spots for an extra 2nd? lmao....wow. you didn't even pay attention, so i'll leave this at a laughable suggestion. you're talking 4ths and 5ths, and only one at that.
And no way is he better than Barkley. These Weeden nuthuggers were the RG3 nutthugging idiots who wanted to trade the farm away for him. QB is nowhere near our biggest need. There are at LEAST 4 more important spots WR, LB, RT, DE
you get better and better bro. so, those 4 spots are more important than the offensive field general? uh huh....
seriously, i dont understand why people get all bent because the draft doesn't go down how they want. you really think your personal opinions are so far superior that it justifies whining and complaining like a psychopath and demanding retribution like you were wronged? why must everything be considered only in absolutes?
the people whose job it is to evaluate these players, both on the team and prospects, have turned the page on colt. you dont have to like it, but you do have to accept it. your way isn't the only way, so please keep that in mind. the draft isn't over...we have more picks. there's still some talent left.
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I like how we have to have 25 Weeden threads going at one time and how they were all started by people who usually only show up after a really bad lose. GTFO!
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I like how we have to have 25 Weeden threads going at one time and how they were all started by people who usually only show up after a really bad lose. GTFO!
I like how we have to have 25 Weeden threads going at one time and how they were all started by people who usually only show up after a really bad lose. GTFO!
And you are posting in at least two of them... lol
Let these threads die as people go through the grieving process.
It does say a lot when the same people that come out after a bad loss also come out after Weeden is picked. Causation or correlation?
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3 years from now...everyone will say...we passed on REIFF...and we don't have a qb...and still no WR. I wasn't looking to win the super bowl this year...holmgren chocked...he is gone after next year...he wants out.
richardson
reiff
hill or jeffery
how hard is that HOLMGREN???
If Colt was that bad with all those upgrades we would have picked in the top 3 next year and picked up a real franchise QB for the next 10 years and everyone would be happy...now we will have to start rebuilding in what 4 years with a 33 year old QB? the damn dynasty is already dead before it started.
BROWNS SUPER BOWL 2015
BROWNS SUPER BOWL 2022....OR LATER
GO back to seattle OLD MAN!!!!
3 years from now...everyone will say...we passed on REIFF...and we don't have a qb...and still no WR. I wasn't looking to win the super bowl this year...holmgren chocked...he is gone after next year...he wants out.
richardson
reiff
hill or jeffery
how hard is that HOLMGREN???
If Colt was that bad with all those upgrades we would have picked in the top 3 next year and picked up a real franchise QB for the next 10 years and everyone would be happy...now we will have to start rebuilding in what 4 years with a 33 year old QB? the damn dynasty is already dead before it started.
BROWNS SUPER BOWL 2015
BROWNS SUPER BOWL 2022....OR LATER
GO back to seattle OLD MAN!!!!
We had a great draft and made the correct picks.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Its not about his age or even his talent...he has more than I ever could imagine....
His first love was baseball and he quit because he was average he said...so will he quit on us because the fun of the game wore out. Trent loves football...I really don't think weeden lives and loves it.
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You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right? You realize he's better then Tannehill, Matt Barkley, Aaron Murry, and is light years ahead Landry Jones right? He's going to start right away, has all the tools necessary to be a legit QB, and ya'll whine about him being "too old?" We just got a top 5 talent at 22 who isn't a head case, is a professional, a leader and just so happens to play the most important position on the field.
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right? You realize he's better then Tannehill, Matt Barkley, Aaron Murry, and is light years ahead Landry Jones right? He's going to start right away, has all the tools necessary to be a legit QB, and ya'll whine about him being "too old?" We just got a top 5 talent at 22 who isn't a head case, is a professional, a leader and just so happens to play the most important position on the field.
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
Yes, I believe you are right. To me, if you were gonna take him it doesn't matter if it is at 22 or 37 or somewhere in between.
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You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right? You realize he's better then Tannehill, Matt Barkley, Aaron Murry, and is light years ahead Landry Jones right? He's going to start right away, has all the tools necessary to be a legit QB, and ya'll whine about him being "too old?" We just got a top 5 talent at 22 who isn't a head case, is a professional, a leader and just so happens to play the most important position on the field.
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
You all realize if Weeden was 22 he would've been a top 5 pick right? You realize he's better then Tannehill, Matt Barkley, Aaron Murry, and is light years ahead Landry Jones right? He's going to start right away, has all the tools necessary to be a legit QB, and ya'll whine about him being "too old?" We just got a top 5 talent at 22 who isn't a head case, is a professional, a leader and just so happens to play the most important position on the field.
Sure it would've been nice to get him at 37. It also would've been nice to get Trent Richardson at 4. But we got Weeden at 22 and Richardson at 3. All that matters is we got them. Now we just need a WR, RT, OLB, DB, and DE.
Couldn't agree more. We got them. Now watch who else we get...I don't think that the dealing is done yet. H&H are doing a fine job. Go Browns!
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It's laughable you guys think 1 or 2 offensive peices will transfer our offense into being competitive. Seriously? You damn right those spots I listed are more important, we can't even stop the run, we have the toughest division in the NFL. I understand being positive but can you not see how Weeden, even if he pans out, will be done in a few years and we will have to start over?
Its time to sack up and start calling out the constant mistakes of the management.
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no, i cant see it. provide some evidence to make your claim or shut the fuck up.
first and foremost, prove to us that RT is more important than the QB. explain to us laymen how taking a fucking linebacker is gonna help us score more points. we cant stop the run? so...even if we could, we'd still only average 11 points per game. and last i checked, you need to score points to win.
yes, we have arguably the toughest division. and your solution is to take no skill players for an offensively anemic team. great plan bro....
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Round 2, Pick 5 (37) --
Round 3, Pick 4 (67) --
Round 4, Pick 5 (100) --
Round 5, Pick 25 (160) (From Broncos)
Round 6, Pick 34 (204) (Compensatory selection)
Round 6, Pick 35 (205) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 38 (245) (Compensatory selection)
Round 7, Pick 40 (247) (Compensatory selection
With #37 a WR should be taken. Personally prefer Randle
With #67 a RT perhaps. Possibly Schwartz
With #100 need a LB
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Provide evidence? You as a football fan should know the importance of a line. Protects your quarterback and helps open holes for your rb. I explained before that good teams build up around mediocre qbs, like the ravens and flacco or the steelers and Maddox. Look at how well ponder did on the viks with a shitty line, and he's on another level than Weeden.
I also already pointed that one or two pickups isn't going to change our offense. We will see what the next pick is, but we are still going to have offensive holes FB, WR or RT, whichever they don't take, and I think still qb. I would say our TEs aren't good either accept for the redzone.
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saying a bunch of stuff with no proof. "look at so-and-so how they did it..." please....there's always a counterpoint in those arguments.
would you consider the colts a good team? did they just insert manning after they built the team and start going to superbowls? that team was built around manning. steelers went one route, the colts went another. this is why i said prove it. what you've done is nothing of the sort....
yes, the line is important. you, however, seem to believe we need an all-star studded line to succeed. since you like doing things like the stools, have you checked their OL roster? they've been routinely going to the playoffs with an average at best line. care to explain why you wanna emulate the steelers QB model and not their OL model?
one or 2 pickups aren't gonna change the offense? good, then taking a freakin tackle at 22 wouldn't have helped either. have you forgotten theres still 6 more rounds, in which we have 8 more picks? are you suggesting we're going defense from here on out?
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LOL your seriously Retarded bro. You wanna build up around Weeden? By the time that's done, he will be retiring!
I woulda went straight defense in the first round because it's Soo deep. But yeah, I also would have spent money in free agency too, that's a different story.
Getting the stud RT is safer because he will be there for whatever qb, instead of taking the chance on an old qb from a joke division
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the opposite is also true. having a QB in place and amassing talent around him is not mutally exclusive of another QB. meaning, when weedon is done, we'll have another QB ready. its not like he's the ;ast QB we'll ever take.
RT is much safer. it also has no impact on the bottom line...winning. we've had strong OL's in the past...recent past...and we won 5 games. so if im Retarded, why aren't you answering the questions? what about the colts? is this inconvenient for your flimsy argument?
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LOL your seriously Retarded bro. You wanna build up around Weeden? By the time that's done, he will be retiring!
I woulda went straight defense in the first round because it's Soo deep. But yeah, I also would have spent money in free agency too, that's a different story.
Getting the stud RT is safer because he will be there for whatever qb, instead of taking the chance on an old qb from a joke division
LOL your seriously Retarded bro. You wanna build up around Weeden? By the time that's done, he will be retiring!
I woulda went straight defense in the first round because it's Soo deep. But yeah, I also would have spent money in free agency too, that's a different story.
Getting the stud RT is safer because he will be there for whatever qb, instead of taking the chance on an old qb from a joke division
I'm not going to sit here and listen to you spout shit and then use the fucking R word. I can give some people that are actually on here regularly a pass if they use that fucking terrible word but not some fuckwad who only comes on here to bitch. GTFO of here not one wants to read your shitty posts.
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